Colon Tubes: Intestinal Perforation?

So this morning I as attempting my first colon tube insertion, no water just testing out the tube. A silicone 32 fr, 30 inch. I used plenty of lube and inserted 5-10 inches, I didn't sense any resistance. However, when i pulled out the tube there was a small amount of blood just inside the tip.

Now i realize the severity of this type of thing and that I should consult a doctor/rush to the emergency room. However it was such a small amount of blood. Is it possible the tube just scratched the intestinal wall?

I've read the forums but all i see is don't perforate the colon, nothing on what happens when you do. Lots of bleeding, pain, what are the symptoms of jabbing a colon tube through the intestine?

I am very concerned with the implications of this but i don't want to go to the hospital and spend a few grand not to mention the embarrasment just to find that there is nothing wrong. Has anyone actually done this?

I would not were about it as long as your not passing blood you would have to push vere hard and it would heart good luck

Hi AnonymousMe, I am not a doctor, but , on the commomsense side of things, Did you feel any large pain, when inserting the colon tube? 2nd everyone has some sort of hemmroids, which are small veins close to the surface, and if you pushed against one of these, you would pick up a little bit of bright red blood. These type of hemmroids don't bleed munch. Hope this is all it is. mustang43.

Not infrequently when I am using both long colon tubes and shorter dildo nozzles, there will be the odd fleck of blood in evidence when the tube or nozzles is removed. I have always assumed this to be because the delicate mucous lining of the rectum or colon has been disturbed and is not an indication of anything serious. I wonder if there are any rough edges where the end cap fits onto your silicone colon tube that might be catching on the mucous membrane.

If you had a perforation, you'd know within 4 hours. You never mentioned your age. An older person's system is going to be much more delicate.

First of all, you need water or an already wet colon when inserting a colon tube and use lots of lube. It sounds like you just scraped yourself. You will be fine. I have heard the silicone colon tubes do not have the smoothest edges and they eyes are rather rough. You should sand them with sandpaper or an emery board.

A colon perforation would yield a lot of blood and it would actually flow for a while, and that isn't what you described.

If you develop a fever or chills in the next several hours, go to the ER.

I agree, if you perforated an intestinal wall, you will know within a few hours. Basically it would be the same as rupturing an appendix, 'and life threatening', as your waste products wound be escaping from your intestines and into your body, which will cause a great deal of pain!

Feel that, then best to get to the ER immediately! And no matter how embarrassed you would feel about it, tell them exactly what you did, as by that point, they're going to be saving your life...

The lining of the intestines are delicate, and are easily damaged and perforated. And actually the smaller you go with something, the more dangerous it could be.

Doctors when performing a colonoscopy uses a scope that is 6 foot long, and about 3/4 inch in diameter. But they are also looking through that scope, and have the ability to turn it and guide it through all the turns and bends in the intestines.

A small drop of blood could come from a hemorrhoid, or a scratch of an intestinal wall, especially when going around any turns or bends in the intestine.

It is for sure something to be cautious with...

Don't try to push in too far the vinyl tube on a disposable enema bag (such as Fleet's Bagenema). The tube is too stiff - it isn't a colon tube! I just get it in far enough for it to feel like it is staying in place securely - maybe six inches or so.

-jillie

You run the risk of damaging your colon the further you try to put the tube in.It's probably nothing and if it's fresh blood,it's more likely in the rectum area.I work in a hospital and we get a lot of GI bleeds but not from tubes that I know of.Using common sense and gentleness is best and not trying to use all the hose!Perforations can lead to surgery if you bleed enough so take care in your activities! 😄

I have to say that I used a colonic tube and ended up perferating my colon and didn't know it. In time I had fever chills and felt tired all the time. I finally went to a doc when I started peeing chunks of feces through my penis. I was told to come into the er as soon as possible. I had ecoli through out my system. It turns out that I had a fistualla. The infection had eaten through my intestine and into my bladder. The doc told me it must've been infected for awhile to cause that much damage. It was a hell of thing to go through. I ended up in surgury and they took about a foot of my intestine out and had to sew my bladder up. They told me I was very lucky that I didn't die from the infection. I will never use a long colonic tube anymore. SO BE VERY CAREFULL ABOUT THE LENGTH OF ANYTHING GOING UP YOUR COLON. Burlybear

I would toss the tube.......it does not seems to agree with you. Why take the risk? I suggest you purchase a new nozzle, aluminum, glass or plastic,that in itself should give you a new and exciting dimension.

Be careful dear...it is a very touchy area and never ever force this into your colon....

I have never tried inserting anything deep into me withour first opening the way with a few clensing enemas. I would never insert something like this dry. I would have water flowing through it. The water helps expand the colon walls and makes it easier to pass through the bowel. I would also take frequeint pauses and expel as necessary. Then refil and push the tube gently in further.

I have reached a depth of 30" without any problems. But I doubt that I would ever just lube something and try to go deep!

Al

I have a homemade silicone colon tube made from gasline and have no problem with it,but here's a tip.You CAN use vasilene with silicone unlike with rubber colon tubes.With rubber use only water based lube because the vasilene will deteriate it.Also,make sure there are no burrs on the tip of your silicone colon tube,use a 600 grit autobody paper to smooth it.

I like vaseline as a lubricant. I use it all the time. I have some rubber stuff dating back 20-30 years and still in good shape. Others have gotten soft and sticky so I just toss them and buy new replacements

Vasoline doesn't make rubber immediately shrivel, go soft and >POOF!< When I'm done, I wash them in warm soapy water. I have a child's ear irrigation bulb which is ideal for cleaning the inside of tubes and things.

I have found that vasoline really isn't all that bad!

I like it, I use it.

Al

I think your in the clear.

a couple of times that I have used a colon tube I had the same thing it came wit a little blood and yes it was with the same tube and then like all have recommended I sanded the edges of the eye outlets and have had no problems not that I use the tube all of the time I find it sometimes menicing to use alone so I use what ever nozzle I choose for the enemas I give or even change up though out my session 😉

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I think your in the clear.

a couple of times that I have used a colon tube I had the same thing it came wit a little blood and yes it was with the same tube and then like all have recommended I sanded the edges of the eye outlets and have had no problems not that I use the tube all of the time I find it sometimes menicing to use alone so I use what ever nozzle I choose for the enemas I give or even change up though out my session 😉

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I hope he's in the clear, it's been a year and a half since his post! 😁 😁 😁 😁

Even a perfectly smooth tube can cause bleeding, even when you have allowed some water to flow into the colon. This is how: You insert the tube and some feces gets stuck on the tube (you know, the kind you have to rub a bit to clean off when you pull the tube out). The feces, depending on your diet, can be abrasive, so your inserting the tube and snaking it around can cause the tube to carry the abrasive feces and cause bleeding.

For that reason Susie,I only insert my colon tube a couple inches for the first cleanout enema.After that one is expelled,second enema is fine and the tube gets inserted a little deeper.

I just recently purchased a 30" 32 fr silicone colon tube. This one is rounded (closed) end, with two openings near the tip. I have used my 18" Rausch(?) 34fr colon tube, and have managed to insert it about 15" in my butt, with a little "work", two times. How easy should it be, to insert the tube? I don't want to hurt myself. I very much know I like the tube, but can any one give me some advice? how much pressure to work around the turns? I typically use two 2 qt clearing enemas, before hooking the colon tube up to my 4 quart bag, and feel this helps with working the tube deeper in my ass. I also have a constant flow when inserting. How deep should I expect, at least the first few times? Thanks to all.