Hardest to hold in

@rushworth: I can’t really comment on its suitability, as I’ve never used these soaps in enemas and no longer live in the country.

Has anyone heard about a Fels Naptha soap enema? You can email me at dragonrider1992@yahoo.com or reply here at zity.

Fels Naptha soap is a laundry soap. It is a very aggressive soap and should NOT be used for any enemas.

I use Fels Naptha to wash if I have been exposed to poison ivy. Usually only on my hands and forearms.

The original Fels Naptha soap contained naptha (mineral turpentine), which would not be at all good to get inside you. But it no longer does, so this would only be an issue if you happened to have a very old sample.

The contents according to the manufacturer’s website are now ‘Soap (sodium tallowate*, sodium cocoate* (or) sodium palmate kernelate*, and sodium palmate*), water, talc, coconut acid*, palm acid*, tallow acid*, PEG-6 methyl ether, glycerin, sorbitol, sodium chloride, pentasodium pentetate and/or tetrasodium etidronate, titatium dioxide, fragrance, Acid Orange (CI 20170), Acid yellow 73 (ci43350)’. *contains one or more of these ingredients

This indicates it is a sodium soap, with chelating agents, colour, and fragrance. No ingredient seems to be considered unsafe. The MSDS indicates it is scented with limonene (found in citrus rind), which is a skin irritant, but ‘most reported cases of irritation have involved long-term industrial exposure to the pure compound, e.g. during degreasing or the preparation of paints.’ Used as a fragrance, it would be a very minor component.

More of a concern than any of the above ingredients (or the historical naptha component) would be possible anti-bacterial components: you don’t want to kill off your intestinal flora. However, I can’t confirm that it contains these. An indication would be a mention of triclosan on the package label.

Thanks for the information, one-eyes.

Four table spoons of baking soda to a little over a quart of water does the job for me.

Interesting how we respond differently to the same ingredients.

Baking soda for we allows me to retain the enema easier.

Most difficult to hold for me is Peppermint Soap and Glycerine (especially for added cramping)

Susie's Post:

As I have posted before in other threads, solutions of 25-50% glycerine and 50 grams of Epsom salts per quart are hard to hold and will cause a lot of grumbling in your abdomen that can be heard across the room. Use a double balloon rectal catheter to hold this inside you. It isn't painful at all, just hard to hold.

I tried a quart of this solution yesterday. I used a large balloon retention device and "rode" the incredible pooping pressure for fifteen minutes. Wow! I had a backache for the rest of the day.

After having 8 ounces of glycerine and 50 grams of Epson salt in me for fifteen minutes, I drank three 12 ounce glasses of water to quench my thirst.

I took a 2 quart H2O rinse enema so I wouldn't have to keep returning to the toilet but only one of the two quarts came back and I had to keep going all evening long and then again this morning. This one is not that uncomfortable but the waves of pressure would cause an accident for sure without a retention device. By the way this one left nothing in my colon.

Barb691^^^ Pleased you rode it "out"

I struggle with cayenne pepper. 2-3 teaspoons in 2 quarts and I'm struggling to keep it in for more than 10 minutes. It makes my rear sore and lights up my nuts if I rub some of the liquid on them.

According to the link below,

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/green+soap

"green soap" can be any potassium soap, made from which the glycerine has not been removed, and can be any color, depending upon the oil used.

Sodium hydroxide is used for bar soaps and potassium for liquid soaps

https://www.drbronner.com/our-story/legacy/quality-soaps-explained/

So, green soap is a liquid glycerine soap, made from an oil which gives it a green color.

According to this, http://www.ausetute.com.au/soaps.html , saponification of fat yields three parts soap, one part glycerine, so th make "green soap", mix one part glycerine with three parts soap, in whatever total amount you want, and enjoy.

I've accidentally made glycerine soap solution so strong, that I bled, despite many attempts at rinsing, and hac chemical colitis for weeks. I tried to get medical advice, but my doctor was not available on Christmas Eve eve., so I just suffered, reconsidering often, just how strong a solution I might want to mess with.

I and my wife had had over a thousand 1-2-3 enemas: one part epsom salt, two parts glycerine, three parts water. You could think of it as an ultra-strong Fleet-style enema. We kept a supply of in a jar, and put into a Fleet-style 4.5 oz bottle for use.

According to this, http://www.ausetute.com.au/soaps.html , saponification of fat yields three parts soap, one part glycerine, so th make "green soap", mix one part glycerine with three parts soap, in whatever total amount you want, and enjoy.

‘Parts’ is a misleading word to use in this context. The saponification reaction yields three moles of soap (fatty acid salt) to one mole of glycerine. The glycerine may or may not be removed, and some fancy toilet soaps actually contain added glycerine. But work out the molecular weights and you find that the proportion of glycerine by weight is much less than one quarter of the reaction products—it is around ten percent, with the exact figure depending on the oils used. That’s in terms of dry weight. Almost any real-life soap will contain a certain amount of water, varying with atmospheric humidity, which further reduces the weight-percentage of glycerine. Soft (potassium) soaps are mostly sold in aqueous solution, two to three parts (by weight) of water to one of soap.

As for the green colour—green soap is green because is is dyed green. Likewise for most other colours. The oils used for soapmaking don’t vary much in colour, yielding soaps that are whitish to pale yellow.

In other words, the above recipe for green soap is so inaccurate as to have no validity at all.

The absolute HARDEST ENEMA TO HOLD I have ever experienced was this.

Take a regular 32 oz bottle of Powerade. Drink the Powerade, and wash the bottle in warm water until the smell of the drink is completely gone.

let it set, with the cap off for a few hours to dry.

Pour 2 6-oz bottles of glycerin and the contents of ONE Fleet Enema in the Powerade bottle.

Add half a fleet bottle of water Shake well

Let it set overnight and don't eat any solid food or consume any alcohol for at least 3 hours before going to bed.

In the morning, before eating anything, or drinking anything but water, Soak that Poweade bottle in HOT water until it is warm but not hot to the touch.

Have your old washcloth ready and in easy reach to use as a bite rag or twist rag.

Have a clean dishpan within easy reach of the toilet, just in case it comes out both ends at the same time, because this one CAN!!

Pour it into an open-topped bag, get into Simms position, and take it as an enema just that way.

Like any enema, just try to hold it as long as you can!! Doubtful you will get to even 12, let alone 15 minutes. Have a second washcloth nearby that you can stuff in if you start to leak on the way to the toilet.

Everything WILL come out, there will be no need for a second round. With the level of nausea, I doubt you'll take another one anyway

It will take a couple of hours before you feel normal again.

What kind of Fleet enema?

You're partly right, One-eyes:

I should have looked more carefully at the molecular formulae to get a rough meaningful proportion. I was thoughtlessly, but I hope not unforgivably, sloppy. I missed the "16" subscript on the methelene groups. If you want to find further problems ith my math, feel free. Thank you for your correction.

Due to my ADD, i miss things like that, making it hard for me to do math problems, which this ends up being. With ADD, a math expression is a terrible thing to misplace, heh. That's one reason I went into Computer Information Systems instead of Computer Science or Medicine: The math is light enough that I can make some mistakes and get through with a passing grade. I have found a Chemistry calculator, which If I copy and paste, instead of reading and rewriting, might solve the problem at issue here.

http://www.lenntech.com/calculators/molecular/molecular-weight-calculator.htm

Perhaps I should still have called it "parts", though, because"parts" is easier for many folks to understand, than mole or "gram-dalton".

Regarding the "color from oil" issue, I'll accept that "green" soap is colored by dye, but the specific oil used can also provide dye-free coloring, with several oils yielding one or other green. This is only one site and I've been having trouble finding other ones, so maybe the information is incorrect: verification is a good thing. http://summerbeemeadow.com/content/properties-soapmaking-oils .

I am properly embarrassed.

Again, thank you for the corrections.

Stickitin2me2000 asked "What kind of Fleet enema?".

stickitin2me, (wonderful name, btw) thank you for that question.

I have usually specified the type of Fleet at issue. Most folks certainly use and maybe only know of, the saline variety. Think of the disposable enema facings in stores. If it is bisacodyl or mineral oil, then i always specify the type, otherwise I sometimes just rely on the default impression. Even so, that is a great point that you made.

Suzie said that M&M (milk & molasses enema is easy to hold. It may be for those experienced with strong solutions, but, when I was about 18, I hadn't had bisacodyl, or glycerine (with or without epsom salt). The first few times I had M&M, it was the most wonderfully urgent, purging small enema I'd ever had! the last I tried it ~1990, it wasn't what it used to be, to me. My gallon of molasses that I'd bought for the purpose wound up in the kitchen, heh. That is too bad, 'cause M&M was most wonderful for me, at first!

Suzie said that M&M (milk & molasses enema is easy to hold. It may be for those experienced with strong solutions, but, when I was about 18, I hadn't had bisacodyl, or glycerine (with or without epsom salt). The first few times I had M&M, it was the most wonderfully urgent, purging small enema I'd ever had! the last I tried it ~1990, it wasn't what it used to be, to me. My gallon of molasses that I'd bought for the purpose wound up in the kitchen, heh. That is too bad, 'cause M&M was most wonderful for me, at first!

Suzie may be an exception, but most people find it very difficult to hold! I have only tried it a few times, but my experience is much like yours.

Definitely have to say the m&m....I barely made it three minutes with retention.

This solution will come out so fast you will not believe it. First prepare 2 quarts of solution 1/2 cup of baking soda and 2 quarts of filtered water. warm to 100 degrees F. dissolve the baking soda in the warm watter. In a separate container mix 1/2 cup of apple cider vinegar 2 quarts of filtered water and then add 2 tsp of vitamin C powered. Mix and heat to 100 degrees F.

I take this on my back laying in the tub as it will explode. Usually It will cause me to pee myself as well when given. Use 2 separate enema bags both with a nozzle that will stay in without assistance. However not so tight that it can make your intestine explode. First fill with the 2 quarts of soda mixture. This alone will create urgency in about 15 minutes. However wait 5 minutes then take as much of the second bag as you can hold. Some time after about 1/3 of the bag enters the reaction will begin. Poop and dirty water will come out like a busted sewer main. At this point I usually piss myself and cum. Clamp off the remainder and wait 30 seconds or sow and then continue the flow. This is a special one I do about once each year. Good Luck.

For a truly "explosive" time, try an M&M

This solution will come out so fast you will not believe it. First prepare 2 quarts of solution 1/2 cup of baking soda and 2 quarts of filtered water. warm to 100 degrees F. dissolve the baking soda in the warm watter. In a separate container mix 1/2 cup of apple cider vinegar 2 quarts of filtered water and then add 2 tsp of vitamin C powered. Mix and heat to 100 degrees F.

That is the famous gas producing solution called "the volcano".

The base, baking soda, and the acid, vinegar react to for a salt and water plus carbon dioxide gas. The reaction happens quickly which is why is becomes hard to hold--the volume actually increases after it is inside you.

M&M (Milk & Molasses) is the most explosive enema solution that I have ever taken. It make you feel like your insides are coming out and coming out in a hurry.

I don't think I'll try either of those!

I have tried and administered both. I give them when a naughty sub needs discipine. I recommend these highly as punishment enemas, and for self administration only if you are extremely masochistic.

K

Just tried a baking soda and sugar enema (about 8 oz.). Very hard to hold in after about 3 minutes. Lots of wonderful cramps and a very thorough clean out.

Best quick, small volume enema with few after effects once the cramping subsides. Usually in about 15 minutes.

Contrary to the respectable opinions of some, the old standby from medical texts and nursing practice of that infamous M & M enema is overwhelming. For those who don't know, it's milk and molasses. For which many recipes are around. Perhaps smaller amounts are tolerable as well as productive. But using whole milk and blackstrap molasses, taken quickly as a high volume enema is a different thing entirely. You'll be rockin the porcelain for a loooong time in abject agony! Tears flow, teeth gnash, legs cramp from strain and you will promise yourself to never take another enema. NEVER! But don't throw your gear away lol. You'll change your mind about that as soon as the libido overcomes your trepidation.

A high volume M & M is a serious OMG in a bag. As they say, be careful what you wish for.

Absolutely I agree totally and completely talk about a clean out. Definitely a good punishment enema and not for those who don’t like cramps.

Contrary to the respectable opinions of some, the old standby from medical texts and nursing practice of that infamous M & M enema is overwhelming. For those who don't know, it's milk and molasses. For which many recipes are around. Perhaps smaller amounts are tolerable as well as productive. But using whole milk and blackstrap molasses, taken quickly as a high volume enema is a different thing entirely. You'll be rockin the porcelain for a loooong time in abject agony! Tears flow, teeth gnash, legs cramp from strain and you will promise yourself to never take another enema. NEVER! But don't throw your gear away lol. You'll change your mind about that as soon as the libido overcomes your trepidation.

A high volume M & M is a serious OMG in a bag. As they say, be careful what you wish for.