Cultural differencesin gynecology!!

Hi

Just trying to find out the similarities and differences in cultural customs and practices.

This is a post for ladies to share with everyone, how things are done in thier home country and where they have experianced differently in other countries.

Taking into account different procedures across all of the continants.

Cheers

EJ

That's an interesting topic, well I'm male but know things about portugal, it was different many years ago, gynecologists used to take care only of the gynecological part exclusively. Women use no gown and used to undress from the waist down and get on table with knee.rests to be examined. Doctors would then do a brief or more thorough abdominal exam and then the gynecological part. Obstetrics was a different speciality and breast disorders were seen by general surgeons which used to perform also any gynecological surgery tha would be eventually needed.Other parts of women health would be with the GPs.

This was about 30 years ago.

Today we assist to a certain americanization of gynecology here.Gynecologists are almost all OB-Gyn and take care of breasts also. They also operate the patients if needed (except breasts that are operated by mastologists or general surgeons). offices are much more modern and patients are given in many case gowns. General health of women are still for the GPs though there are some Women's consultation that take care of everything. No stirrups here only knee-rests. Some GPs are starting to do pelvic exams when needed and give advice on birth control

Is anybody aware of any country where it's customary for the woman to be completely nude during the exam, no drape, sheet or gown? I've heard stories about this happening in Europe, maybe England.

It would seem strange, but some of these doctors are on such power trips, they probably get off on further humiliating the woman any way they can. As if having complete and unquestioned access to their pussies isn't enough.

Lucky bastards!

In the UK I doubt nude exams are the case... however, I have heard that about France. Perhaps some French men or women can enlighten us more

Doc Rob

Exams generally aren't done in the UK ever except if there is a gynaecological problem and you're refered to a gynaecologist. otherwise smears are started aged 25 done every three years by a practice nurse... no looking, poking with fingers etc....and usually if you're wearing a skirt u pulll it up.... if trousers... you only take those off, you're not naked at all and theres a sheet over your legs. Women are only ever invited to a breast exam once that woman has reached age 50, the only time you have a breast exam before that is if you have found a lump or problem during a self exam..... thats what happens in the UK......... non of this routine exam crap..... thats for the over cautious americans and doctors who want their money....

Schistosomiasis,

As much as I think there are many frivilous exams motivated by greedy bastards' desire to soak up more money from patients and insurance companies, if it's true that breast exams in England don't start until age 50, that's unfortunate, especially when you see so many women much younger get stricken with breast cancer.

And I'm no doctor -- though I play one often in my mind while I'm pleasuring myself -- but I would think women would need to get their pussies examined somewhat regularly -- and for medical purposes, not just so male docs can get their rocks off, though I'm sure that's also a motivating factor.

Cervical changes and abnormalities don't occur as fast as every year. which is what is recommended for women in america.Hormonal imbalances are still occuring in women up to age 25, this can cause women to get abnormal readings on cervical smears which are actually harmless causing stress to the woman and unnecessary treatment which is costly and is very painful i may add this is why in the UK women aren't invited to their first smear until aged 25.these uneccessary treatments actually lead to a higher chance of abnormalities in the future. If a women were to get an abnormal reading in the UK, then ofcourse she wouldn't be asked to come back in three years she would be asked to come back in 6 months to a year to see there was an progression, as womens bodies usually fight off the virus which causes these abnormalities, after that period of time the changes are usually halted or reversed with out and medical intervention other than the screening.going every year is uneccessary for the reasons i just stated.And no imAnd i tend to trust the BMA rather than the AMA considering we still have the highestest standard of medical training.

the only other reason to get examined every year is coz you like it.

I can only speak of Germany. Here you go to the gyn twice a year when you are on the pill. The breasts are not going to be examined until you are over 40 years old or you really insist on it. Before the gyn. examination your blood pressure and urin is tested. You don`t have to undress completely just take your trousers of for the gyn examination. There is no gown and knee rests for gynchairs.

In the UK you go to your gp twice a year when ur on contraception but only to see if you;re ok with it and make sure your blood pressure and weight hasn;t gone up.

I spent 15 months in Vietnam because of my husband's work, and had one of our babies there. I had access to the clinic for the company, but all the staff were Asian and spoke little English; so I had an interpreter. This is a whole thing on its own, and would take pages, but for now I can say that the male staff were all extremely interested in a mature white woman's totally nude body, and I was examined in detail many times in that clinic while naked. It is true that in Asia the biggest female porn stars are white and voluptuous for some reason, and I think in my case that the head gynecologist had his own agenda left over from some things that happened to him during the Vietnam war with the USA. At any rate he was very strict and blatant and did not always keep his gloves on. My pregnancy drove him to distraction as well.

Hi Lisagart

I would be interested to hear about those experiences while you were in Vietnam. So please post them when you are able to,

Thanks RN

Here in Italy you go to the gynecologist usually once or twice a year, or even more if you happen to have any problems or if you take the pill. No blood pressure is taken nor urine sample. There's a brief talk about general health and medical history. Usually I keep my blouse/shirt on. Nothing is given to cover...the rest of you, at least in free clinics. Breasts are examined if it's a 'first visit'. The doctor may or may not take a PAP smear. More often he fills out a prescription for it or any other breast/internal exam.

Tell us in detalis what happened during your last gyno exam

I can't help but think that some of the posts in this thread could really start a heated discussion about the politics of health care from one country to another and/or government controlled vs. private health care systems.

Nowadays in Portugal, gynecologists always perform breast exam before gynecological examination. Gowns became usual in almost every gyno offices. Women doctors tend to be much more than men. The patient is usually completely naked under the gown. Women sexually active go once a year

In the Philippines, going to a gynecologist at puberty isn't routine like in the US. Here, you only go to the gyno if you have GYN problems, sexually active,planning to be pregnant, seeking birth control. Women who come in are simply asked to undress from the waist down, get on the table, with stirrups and then covered by a sheet for modesty.if they're wearing a skirt, they're just asked to take off their panties. knee rests are used for GYN surgeries and other procedures such as IUD insertion, TVU,etc.a routine physical by a GP may include a breast exam but no pelvic. most GYN's are female. there are males but women tend to go to female GYNs.

I do believe you, I have heard the same identical thing from a girl of your same age and condition that live in the Emirate ( Dubai ).

She would like go for an examination ( for herself health but also because she is in med fet ), but her mom say her: you don't need this because you are not sick or married or pregnant.

Obviously in Italy it is not so.

M2000

In france the gynaecological follow-up is done by both Gyn-Obs (generally males), medical gyn ( French sppeciality - generally female) or GP (male or female)

A correct follow-up includes :

- a yearly exam (blood pressure, weight, gyn exam)

-pap smears , the first one as soon as a girl becomes sexually active, a second 3 month later and 1 every 3 years if results are OK

-yearly blood test in case of pill (glycemia,lipids,liver function)

Breast exams are absolutely necessary for 35 years old and more women but, before, some benign problems can be found (adenofibromas, mastosis ...) so it would be stupid to don't do this very easy and non-invasive exam .

For 50 and more years old women 1 mammogram, every 2 years is absolutely necessary (else risk of stupid death!)

France (continuation)

When a woman comes to Dr (Gyn or GP) for gyn problem or gyn follow-up of for a birth control prescription, the Dr asks generally her to disrobe completely ( in France, we don't use gowns)so the whole exam is done with a totally naked patient but some Drs ask first to remove "the low" for gyn exam then to put it back on before removing "the top" for breast exam .

Usually, Gyn-Obs use rather knee rests and GP stirrups (less bulky and less cumbersome for other exams)

France - end

Sometime, gyn and breast examsare are part of complete routine physicals done by GP or some health preventive services (as this one where I am in practice) .

In this case,exam begins often with underwears on (vitals, neurological and skeletal exams)then bra off (hearth, lungs, breast and abdominal exam) and finally completely nude ( for gynand and eventually rectal exams followed by awhole skin exam)

I enjoy a lot this way of doing because I think that gowns sometime used in french hospitals are very ugly

Friendly

I was nude for an exam in Spain in about 2001. Can anyone else confirm that is the norm. This was in Barcelona.

Additional info, where i come from, virgins who go to the GYN aren't given a bimanual or speculum exam. just an external exam and if there's a need for bimanual, the GYN do it rectally.

Very interesting topic!

Thanks for your post, schistosomiasis. I was wondering if you need to have a gyno exam in order to get birth control in the UK. Do you for the initial examination, or can you just go and request it? (Here in the US, it is custom that you do have the initial exam, unless you are like me and avoid it at all costs, & make up excuses!)

Dear NaugtyKatie

the usual way to do a full physical of a young virgin female patient in France is

Vitals,neuro and skeletal exam in her underwears

then, bra off, hearth and lung exam then accurate breast exam with evaluation of the developping stade then abdominal exam

After panties removed, close vulva exam for evaluation of the developpement stade .

If you have interested on this question, seen on the web TANNER's stades

Finally, rectal exam for feeling if uterus and ovaries are OK

Virgin speculum and vaginal digital examination are, carefylly done only in case of problems

Some of my adult playdoc female patients said me having been turned on by these exams when they were adolescent girls . So , as true Drs, we have to closely examine her as often as possible to introduce her into our marvellous fetish !

So are there any patterns

such as by continant eg Asia or sub continant eg south asia

for instance is it similar in the old 'baltic' states form USSR and yugoslavia, what about Africa.

does age play a big factor eg 16,18 25(UK)

whether your nude ect. what is common eg. speculum, bimanual ect and what is not.

thanks

EJ

Hi,

I'm from belgium.

I went several times to the gyn with my my wive or girlfriend.

They didn't have to take off all there clothing, mostly they have to undress from the waist down and there is no gown to cover up.

The chair has mostly knee rest instaid of strirrups.

A breast exam is only done when the woman is 40+ and she can take here clothes on to cover here breasts before she has to ly down in the gyn-chair.

greatings

Jo

So Holland is the same as Belgium.

expect for the breast exam.

i think here its 50+

kinda foolish if you see how many woman develop breast cancer under this age.

I remeber the gyn i went to with my wife 30 years ago.

First she has to go wih the nurse to give a urine sample, taking bloodpressure e.o.

than she had to go in the dressing room en she has to take of here panties en bra, she can take on her t-shirt or blouse and skirt and wait for the gn too call her.

When he he examines her he asked her to remove her clothing in front off him before she has to get on the table.

But i think that is now no longer the way it is be done

jo

Years ago my girlfriend described her gyn exam for me in detail. She said that the doctor was from Greece and that was why he made her remove her gown after she was on the table. It might have been true, or it might be that she told me that because she knew it excited me to think of her being examined that way completely naked.

I'm kind of skeptical these days but I believed her at the time because she was a very beautiful blonde, with big breasts and tan lines like you used to see on playboy centerfolds.