What kind of Bag holds up the Best

I do enema three times a week. I also use olive oil to lub my bowls as well as the water I use for the enema.

I have so trouble keeping a bag for very long, same with the tube.

After only a few months they get hard and inflexible...

I've heard the silicon bags are very good. They clean easy, wont crack, resist staining, and are flexible but wont tear. I think they're kind of expensive though.

I don't know how handy you are,but you can make your own enema container from a four quart juice pitcher.Drill a hole at the bottom and insert a barb that can be purchased in a hardware store for a buck.The barb has threads that can be screwed into the hole of the pitcher,then a nut is screwed on the barb from the inside.You connect the tubing to the barb and now you have an enema container that will last forever.I don't use bags because of the same reason you gave,they just don't last,especialy when using oil.

Let the good times FLOW.

There is no question about it, the best, most durable bag on the market is the 4 quart silicone Klystra. The Sherema bags were also excellent.

Klystra, please PM me for the bank account to send the royalties for my testimonials. 😁 😁 😁 😁

I make an enema container out of an insulated picnic jug. I took the pushbutton valve apart by removing the button, spring and valve disk. This left a hole at the bottom edge of the jug. I glued a piece of rigid hose onto the valve body to connect the enema hose to. The jug holds a little over 1 gallon and it is insulated so the water does not get cold. It has a screw on top and a strong handle that you can use to hang it. You have to loosen the top to let air in when you start the enema. The inner container is also made of food grade plastic (I hope, it was made for human consumables).

I also think the Faultless Enema Bags are best you can buy and are made of good quality material.

drugstore.com has the Premium Faultless Bag on sale this week for around $6.00 which is a very good buy.

One more vote for the Faultless bag. i've had mine for years and it is still in great shape. One of the things i did invest in is good quality silicon hose. You can find it many places on the web. It's not cheap but it lasts.

Here's a line from http://www.klystra.com descriptive of the Klystra Classic silicon bag:

"They are not effected by time, heat or chemicals. They are not as fragile as rubber. It is the very best bag that you can buy."

Rubber, by it's own nature, deteriorates in time due to sunlight and to naturally occuring ozone in the air. It is also highly susceptible to damage caused by some substances used in solutions and for cleansing or sterilization, such as oils, alcohol, and bleach. Note that many soaps contain oils as an ingredient.

I acquired mine only ten years ago, but it's every bit as good as new. It was undenieably expensive, but you get what you pay for.

The Klystra silicon bag is a winner. Oils won't damage it, bleach doesn't harm it. The bag has very heavy gauge material and I doubt the hook will ever damage the bag eye. The bag and tubing are both somewhat clear, so it's easy to tell if either are soiled on the inside. Being able to watch the solution level in the bag is also a plus. Expensive but well worth

Mostly agree and good things about the Klystra Clear bag. Two comments tho. First, the standard outflow fitting is one quarter inch in internal diameter. The bag is huge, the tubing is 3/8ths, so why the restriction? For those wishing a low bag height, high flow enema, this restriction causes a problem. Mine is an older model, so perhaps this has since been (you'll excuse the pun) rectified.

Second problem is that it WILL STAIN when taking coffee enemas and or using epsom salts. Mine has turned a light tan with use, over a few years.

Other than that, it is a fine product and worth the money compared to the alternatives.

One basic rule to be remembered from High School or College chemistry.

What dissolves in water will usually not dissolve in oil, and what dissolves in oil will usually not dissolve in water.

Latex seems very vulnerable to anything with an oil base, particularly mineral oil, but also petroleum jelly; so if you use either, be sure to rinse the bag out thoroughly afterward, and allow it to dry. If it's an open-top, turn it inside out.

If a bag is exposed to these conditions regularly, it may also begin to "stretch" as the rubber weakens; there's a "side benefit" here as you can now get more solution into the bag....

but the added weight way eventually weaken the flap used to hang the bag; you may be able to reinforce that area by use of a metal grommet, available at any good hardware dealer.

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Mostly agree and good things about the Klystra Clear bag. Two comments tho. First, the standard outflow fitting is one quarter inch in internal diameter. The bag is huge, the tubing is 3/8ths, so why the restriction? For those wishing a low bag height, high flow enema, this restriction causes a problem. Mine is an older model, so perhaps this has since been (you'll excuse the pun) rectified.

Second problem is that it WILL STAIN when taking coffee enemas and or using epsom salts. Mine has turned a light tan with use, over a few years.

Other than that, it is a fine product and worth the money compared to the alternatives.

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The original OLD Sherema and original OLD Klystra bags did NOT have the restrictive orifice on/inside the tubing barb. The restrictive barbs are since the last several years only. You can carefully pull out the barb on the new ones by twisting and pulling, or as I have done, literally pull the bag inside out and the barb comes out more easily and without damaging the silicone around the barb attachment.

I know this because we have gotten three of the newer silicone bags in the last few years, and my husband strong armed one, and I turned the others inside out. The bag fared better where I turned it inside out than when my husband forcefully pulled the barb out. The new ones do come with the hose barbs kind of locked in, but with care and a little effort, you can remove them.

We store our bags with with NO barb in place so the silicone can just be in a passive state when stored. We use a plastic hose barb from a hardware store to connect our tubing to the bag that has a 3/8" ID and less than 1/2" OD and it fits snugly in the bag without stretching it much. That gets you back up to the really good flow rates.

So, I agree that the restrictive hose barb should be eliminated.

Agree completely with the above by Suzie. The restrictive outflow coupler can and should be replaced so that the total flow capability well exceeds the one quarter inch restriction that came as standard. Common sense dictates that it makes no sense to have 3/8ths tubing downstream from a quarter inch coupler. DUH!!!!

Is anyone from KLYSTRA listening?

Few come to know this, but as the decades of experience accumulate, the most interesting enemas are the ones done at very low bag levels. But they can only work if the setup is high flow and large diameter throughout.

The Sherema bags were made with neoprene rubber and not natural rubber redrub

Is Sherema still around and producing bags. I had one for 35 years.at least. Bought it through an ad she ran in Screw Newspaper in New York... Do you remember?

I only use the 4 or 5 gallon sun shower(around 20 bucks) i have it plumbed to a faucet and can fill and empty with out taking the bag down i use a digital flow meter so i know the exact amout of water going in and it keeps a total averaging 400-500 gallons per year kinda neat and simple it is very easy to use

I like the hydration paks that come in sizes from 2L up to 10L. They are made of food grade poly interiors and safe for water intake. Brands include Dakine, Platypus, MSR Dromedary at camping supply stores. Problem with the shower bags (SunShower, Coleman,etc) is they are not food grade material and not recommended for drinking water (and not water for enema either).

I find any of the vintage B.F.Goodrich combination or open top bags are very well made and top quality and were made to last.

They certainly knew how to make rubber goods in those days!

Like a few others, I bought Sherema bags back in the 80's and still have both of them. The black one was $33.95, in '83, and the red one had gone up to $35.95 by '84. A few years ago, I had to add a few grommets to the tab of the black bag, but other than being a bit stretched from years of use, is still as good as it was when I got it. I was also a member of Klystra's "buyer's club" when George was starting up and as a member we received 40% discount. The money invested was well worth it, and helped get George's busniess going. With others running the business now, the discounts have been eliminated. Both Sherema, and Klystra have provided the most solid bags I've ever owned or seen. With a bit of reasonable care, they will last for years...29 yrs. on one and still going!

As a side note, Klystra at one time sold some fantastic pot scrubbers that were stainless steel wire. They do a great job cleaning the kettles from my popcorn machines.

In my experience, good quality silicone is the best. It cleans easily, and seems to be indestructible.

I also think the Faultless Enema Bags are best you can buy and are made of good quality material.

drugstore.com has the Premium Faultless Bag on sale this week for around $6.00 which is a very good buy.

This us to be the case.. IF you look carefully at the bags today they no longer say " made in USA", but "made in twain" and it shows.

I'm one of those with an "ancient" Sherema red bag. The hang up hole is going out. I have reinforced it but the whole area is drying and cracking. Hard to believe after 30+ years! There is a lot of good comment about Klystra silicone bags. Are there other type of silicone bags out there that others of you have and recommend? Has anyone here tired the 5qt Optimal Health bag which has two hang up holes, one on each side. That should make it last longer?

R

I vote NO for the Optimal Health 5 quart bag.

The Klystra is the best bag.

The hose fitting screw top is one of a kind and if anything happens to it, you're screwed. The hole in the top hose attachment is small and that limits the flow rate, as do the Klystra bags for the last several years, although I carefully pull out the hose barb in the Klystra and replace it with a 3/8" ID barb. I also like to see what's in the bag. The hole for hanging isn't so great either in the 5 quart bag.

Thank you so much for the tip. So the obvious question is: Does someone make a 4-5 qt. silicone bag that is tough (the hole will not split when fully loaded AND has at least a 3/8" ID barb? Reviews?

I preserve the "hanging holes" in my enema bags by getting a stainless steel nut and bolt, washers and snap hook plus 2 neoprene washers. Starting at the outside back of the bag, here is the sequence I use:

bolt, snap hook, ss washer, neoprene washer, bag, neoprene washer, ss washer, nut. Tighten very tight.

i have been doing this for 10 years and no torn bags.I like Klystra silicone bags best.

Thank you so much for the tip. So the obvious question is: Does someone make a 4-5 qt. silicone bag that is tough (the hole will not split when fully loaded AND has at least a 3/8" ID barb? Reviews?

Carefully remove the klystra barb and insert your own., It is hard to get out. I found by pulling the bag inside out I was more easily able to remove it.

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KLYSTRA COMPANY--TAKE NOTES--YOUR HOSE BARB I.D. IS TOO SMALL.

PUT ONE IN THAT HAS A 3/8"ID --OR--

DON'T PUT ONE IN AT ALL AND LET THE PURCHASER GET THEIR OWN.

On the Klystra or old Sherema bags, use as "S" hook as thick as you can find that fits through the hole. That will minimize stress on the hole and prevent tearing.

I use a thick plastic "S" hook used for hanging plants -- the same hook for twenty years without ever a breakage or a falling bag!

Plus any rubber or latex will weaken and melt from any oil.

As Susie mentions the larger diameter "S" hook or the like the better. If you have a bare "S" hook, slip a piece of plastic/silicone/rubber tubing over the end to increase the diameter. If the diameter of the hanger fills the hanging hole completely on the bag it prevents the hook from "cutting" into the hole.

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I have a red rubber Klystra 4 quart bag that I have used for years. There are many pictures of it in my albums on this site. The only complaint that I have at this point is that it has developed a leak where the hose bard connects to the bag. I have had to purchase an automotive hose clamp to put on the bag and tighten around the barb. It works fine but is ugly and has some sharp edges.