Growing trend to get circumcised

Quoting examdoc:

Who are the doctors Speed referred to in the U.S. who specialize in adult circumcision?

Do a google search for adult circumcision. You will find two or three practices which specialize in this. As I have no personal knowledge of the competence of these doctors, I will not refer anyone to any of them.

Speed

I use to date two man who were uncircumcised. They felt their parents did them a big favor to keep them whole. Their uncircumcised penises were very sensitive and they thought their penises being uncircumcised make love making more pleasurable.

When I became pregnant with a boy I decided early in my pregnancy not to circumcise him. I am Jewish and never told my father. Jewish people make a huge deal about the circumcising of a male baby. Jewish people have a celebration and circumcise the male baby in front of the guests, how barbaric.

I had my Circ done when I was about 30yo, I also had the snip done at the same time but that’s for another topic, so it was my choice.

Did my love making change after, not really, a bit less sensitive maybe, took longer to cum but that pleased the wife.

Did I think “glad I had that done… don’t have to wash my cock as much now……” no, so that didn’t change.

Also I can not remember at any time during my “randy” youth stage did girls ask me, “are you circumcised” or getting to the undressing part when suddenly she cry’s.. ”Oh no..your not circumcised” so leaving medical reason apart, does it really matter if your cut or not… NO…. is it cleaner… NO…. should babies have it done because dad has…NO .. have I ever been asked if I’m cut,,,NO.

So to summaries, if it needs removing, remove it, but don’t use lame excuses to have it removed, eg hygiene or cleanliness.

I was circumcised as a baby, not for religious reasons, but I was unable to pee properly, odly enough, it seems to be a trait that I passed onto at least one of my grandsons ( i didn't have any sons, only daughters).

It never occurred to me that I was any different as I grew up, and it has certainly never made lovemaking any sort of problem. I obviously don't know what it is like with a foreskin, but I cant imagine it being any different quite honestly.

One thing I will say, is I was never teased about it as a schoolboy, no one would ever have admitted to looking at another boys dick in the showers or anything, for fear of being branded gay, something not so acceptable when I was a boy. worries about teasing were very eminent when it was decided my grandson would have t be done, but when I said it just didn't happen, my 39year old daughter was gob smacked to discover how I actually knew!

I have read this string with great interest and have concluded that the common practise of circumcision of new born males in the USA (nonreligious) is purely a financial benefit for those medical institutions that perform this unnecessary surgery. I am however very interested in learning what religious justification there is for this practice?

I found this article that talks about circumcision and gives the religious basis for it (more or less): http://www.moheljoel.com/pdf/circ_decision.pdf

Quoting crowfoot:

I have read this string with great interest and have concluded that the common practise of circumcision of new born males in the USA (nonreligious) is purely a financial benefit for those medical institutions that perform this unnecessary surgery. I am however very interested in learning what religious justification there is for this practice?

Really, the vast majority of circumcisions in the U.S. are done because they have always been done on newborn males. I suspect there is probably some reality to the multitude of reports that indicate that circumcision reduces the frequency of this that or the other disease. The anti-circumcision zealots scream more loudly than medical science, so one has to look very hard to find these reports.

The one disease that we can state without fear of contradiction is prevented by circumcision is penile cancer. It was almost unknown in the U.S. when circumcision was virtually universal. Now that about half the men are not circumcised, it is starting to rear its ugly head here.

Again, I do not advocate one way or the other on this topic. I was cut as an infant and am happy the way I am. As a matter of fact, if I was not circumcised at birth, I would have chosen to be done as an adult. I would prefer that this be an informed decision for each man.

Speed

PS: For what its worth, my boss, a very attractive young lady, says that she has always refused to have sex with an uncircumcised man.

Both of your medical claims are easily and frequently rebutted, speedvogel, at least to anyone who has an open mind on the subject. Check any of the many anti-mutilation sites and you will find ready refutation. (And furthermore penile cancer is extremely rare; far less than testicle cancer in fact, which is also rare.)

The truth is there is a large constituency of people in the US who make handsome profits from doing circumcisions. Plus those who have been mutilated since right after birth understandably feel defensive about their situation. That is, however, not justification for inflicting their dilemma on others.

It is unfortunate you were not left intact from birth. You have my sympathy -- I have been with several women who have told me that sex with a natural, i.e., not circumcised, penis is quite a bit more enjoyable.

Circumcision is barbaric.

Al C, you just made my point. These people scream so loudly that medical science is not heard. Most of the current research is being done in Europe, where circumcision is not all that common and in areas of Africa where is also is uncommon. You cannot accurately claim any financial bias in this research.

Now you obviously are one of these fanatics. You as much as indicate so and seem proud to be penile Luddite.

My wife, whose first husband was not cut, prefers my cut penis, so you take your pick.

I think I have made my view clear that this is a decision that should be offered to each male at a time when he is old enough to decide for himself.

Speed

This is an interesting site about circumcision.http://med-fraud.org/

I am NOT circumcised nor do I wish to be, there is a sensitivity down there I wish to keep.

I am interested however to hear how others feel and think, including women who have elected or been forced into the procedure.

I chose to have my son circumcised for hygiene purposes only!

I have been circumcised. I also note that the CDC is considering a recommendation that all male babies born in the US be circumcised, though such a recommendation has not yet been issued.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/health/policy/24circumcision.html?_r=1

I´m not circumcised but I can´t retract my foreskin over my penis completely. I need to go to the doctor for a circumcision but I˙m afraid. Does it hurt really bad after the procedure is done?

I dont think there should be any argument about the subject. Some parents have it done for religous reasons and some parents have it done for what they percieve as health reasons.

The men who are cut and the men who are natural - for the most part - all seem to like the way they are. Their female partners all seem to like the way they are. SO Whats the big deal?

I couldn't agree more, Luvabag - I am happy with what I have got and I know nothing else...

I have noticed that guys with forskin last longer during sex. and guys who have had the snip dont last that long. ???

but im saying if i hold my partners skin back and pull harder than normal he cums.

so would this mean that guys who have had the snip dont last very long???

but weather being it for religeon or not i think it was originally done to just pump

once or twice and cum for the reason to produce a child.

i come to this assumption because if the woman is not wet enough its hard to get a dry cock in to a dry vagina .

so being dry it is not as sensative and as with my partner does it cum faster as just to produce seamen to make a chld and not get pleasure due to being dry ???

can any body make what i am saying clear'er ??

i know what im saying but it needs ellaberating on .

thanks

^^^^ Gynoslave said:

i have noticed that guys with forskin last longer during sex. and guys who have had the snip dont last that long. ???

I never found that to be the case at all. Cut or uncut they last on average the same. Other people have said the opposite, that a cut man is less sensitive because the glans is constantly rubbing against clothing and things and has become dryer and less sensitive and last longer.

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but im saying if i hold my partners skin back and pull harder than normal he cums.

If you stroke just about any man harder, especially as you push down on the abdomen directly around the base of the penis, he will cum sooner.

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so would this mean that guys who have had the snip dont last very long???

No, some say they last longer, see above. Look, the glans either rubs against the inside of the foreskin or against the inside of the vagina or your hand, it doesn't make a difference.

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but weather being it for religeon or not i think it was originally done to just pump once or twice and cum for the reason to produce a child. i come to this assumption because if the woman is not wet enough its hard to get a dry cock in to a dry vagina .

Not at all. The original purpose for circumcision in biblical times was cleanliness, and water, saliva, animal fat and plant gels were used since cave man times for lubrication.

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so being dry it is not as sensative and as with my partner does it cum faster as just to produce seamen to make a chld and not get pleasure due to being dry ???

The time it takes for an EXPERIENCED man to cum is usually a LEARNED and PRACTICED activity. Men can learn to cum slower or faster. Of course, the older a man gets, the longer they usually take to cum--lucky us, we get fucked longer. Also, as stated above, some say the dry, exposed glans is less sensitive and takes longer to cum, but medical studies have shown no difference. Also, the deep dorsal nerve which is the prime innervating nerve of the penis primarily innervates the glans and 30% of it is NOT lost in circumcision as someone posted somewhere simply because that is not where the greatest number of fibers go. It's the same thing with the clitoris, the deep dorsal nerve goes primarily to the clit, not the hood, which is the foreskin in the female.

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can any body make what i am saying clear'er ??

i know what im saying but it needs ellaberating on .

thanks

I actually prefer the look of an uncircumcised penis, except where the foreskin is too long. If a male isn't having any problems and is conscientious in keeping himself clean, then I say leave it alone. Someone said its like unwrapping a present and that's exactly right, you get this perfectly wrapped item to play with and discover whats really inside. Then it can be wrapped up again until next time. Wonderful.

I was circumcised when I was a few months old. I don't think there is any benefit to it other then something that doesn't have to be pulled back and washed. My skin is dry by nature and masturbating without lube can dry it out easy. My wife says she thinks a man with a circumcised penis is cleaner and she prefers it.

Wow, 5 pages of postings about whether or not to be circumcised or not and whether cut or uncut is better... I bet circumcision hasn't seen so much controversy since the Council of Jerusalem!

I never would have guessed that this topic could generate so much discussion. Quite a bit of discussion on sensitivity... I just wanted to comment that for me personally, I have no idea if I am more sensitive or less sensitive than if was uncut? The truth is that I have no single standard to measure by, some days I'm easily turned on and some days I can't get it up with a crane. As near as I can tell, sensitivity has virtually nothing to do with it, it's all about whether my mind and body are up for the whole experience.

Everything from the time it takes to achieve an erection to the intensity of the orgasm (at least for me) is all about the mood I'm in, how I feel, what kind of day I'm having and whether my mind is focussed on sex. I suppose the sensitivity of the nerves in my penis does matter some (???), but I think the importance of that to the overall experience is WAY overblown here.

I mean, when my body seriously doesn't want it (overuse,illness or whatever...), the sensitivity of my penis actually becomes something of an irritant after a while, and I will break off the encounter...

Anyway, my opinion is that way too much weight is being given to this subject.

Anyway, my opinion is that way too much weight is being given to this subject.

Not sure I agree with you because circumcision is an act that is voluntary - so if folks decide not to do it, that it is not a good practice, they can not have it done on their kids.

But I wholeheartedly agree with you that the brain is a far greater source of sexual interest and enjoyment than a little piece of skin.

I'm cut. More sensitive, less sensitive? Who th f knows, I just know that I couldn't HANDLE it if my orgasms were any MORE intense then some of them are so that particular issue is entirely moot as far as I'm concerned. I don't have sons. If I did, they would have been cut. My choice and God help anyone that tries to get in my way. The right to choose applies to a lot of different things.

My boyfriend was circumcised when he was 17 and I honestly I'd prefer a circumcised man but I would never make my boyfriend get it just because I preferred it. However, I've never actually been with a man who was uncircumcised so I don't have much experience on that part. Does it feel any different during intercourse or is it just the same?

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My boyfriend was circumcised when he was 17 and I honestly I'd prefer a circumcised man but I would never make my boyfriend get it just because I preferred it. However, I've never actually been with a man who was uncircumcised so I don't have much experience on that part. Does it feel any different during intercourse or is it just the same?

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If I close my eyes, once they're "in" I can't tell the difference. But that's just me. I've only been with 4000 guys.

OK, that's an exaggeration. A BIG one. I still can't tell the difference once they're in.

Interesting observation, Switchablesusie. I have only seen one uncircumcised man up close in real life; I have never experienced intercourse with one.

Lady Teddy

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If I close my eyes, once they're "in" I can't tell the difference. But that's just me. I've only been with 4000 guys.

OK, that's an exaggeration. A BIG one. I still can't tell the difference once they're in.

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Interesting observation, Switchablesusie. I have only seen one uncircumcised man up close in real life; I have never experienced intercourse with one.

Lady Teddy

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HEAR YE, HEAR YE, CALLING ALL HOOKERS! Especially any still alive who practice unprotected sex.

We need your expertise on this! 😄 😄 😄 😄 😄

Can you tell the difference once they're inside you?

Can you tell with a condom?

In my experience and I have had both there is no difference and being inside I assume hard When soft definite difference

Well, my two cents say it differently.

I do feel nice feelings from what would be cut, impossible only to think to have done this to me ...

Obviously if you are cut from child then you cannot know what you have lost forever.

The same occours for the poor little girls that have been cut her clit, I do know that it is very worse and not directly comparable to a male's circumc., but for many aspect, it is similar.

Where I do live, by now, is ( finally ) forbidden and illegal to cut hears and tiles to the dog, I do believe, I am convinced that, if there is no need would be better don't cut nothing, we are done so naturally, all considered it is the same a mutilation to avoid.

But behind the surgery very often ( other than cultural tradition ) there is business and the money don't stop it, very simple, at least ask to the person his consent when he is able to choice and understand ...

M2000

What I find interesting about this thread is the strong opinions of quite differing views. For my part, I have been told quite forcefully by several women on multiple occasions that they found uncut much more enjoyable. While I cannot attest obviously to how they felt during sexual experiences with cut men, I can attest to the fact that they really, really got off during sex with me.

From all of this, it seems to me clear that the sides on this matter are drawn mainly by 1) whether or not one was surgically altered at birth, or 2) the status of a dear lover's foreskin.

Given such clarity, I wonder why on earth everyone does not support the obvious answer -- leave the male child alone at birth and let him decide for himself and his lovers when he is old enough.