Salt & Soap

Hello from a neophyte.

I read a post about adding salt to a soapsuds recipe. Is this to prevent absorption? My wife has a very sensitive rectum and colon and I really want to be "mild" with her first.

Thanks in advance!

I'm not so sure that a direct result would be brain swelling...

I would be concerned that higher concentrations of water in the body may lead to excess fluid - between the brain and skull there is a layer of fluid. When there is too much fluid there you can have problems, I ought to know... I have had in the past a medical condition which is essentially too much fluid surrounding the brain - it chokes off your optic nerves and can cause permanent blindness if not treated.

Excess water in our bodies tends to flush out valuable nutrients. If you have ever seen the episode of Gray's Anatomy where the patient was Gilbert Godfried, you'll understand just how dangerous super high fluid imbalance can be. A relative had an episode of this - her doctor recommended that she up her fluid intake. Three days later she was hospitalized and having hallucinations... not a good thing to get too much fluid into the body - no matter how it gets in there.

Of course, the question is how much is too much? This is a different amount for everyone. My relative is not a big 'water drinker' so for her, when she suddenly increased the amount of water she consumed in a day by about 400%, she landed in the hospital with her electrolytes out of whack.

I have found during these last few weeks, that a SMALL amount of salt added to plain tap water keeps me from feeling exhausted after an enema. By a small amount, I mean a teaspoon to two quarts - even a pinch added to a bulb syringe full is plenty.

as to the actual symptoms of excess fluid around the brain - you'll see funny lights flash in front of your eyes - kind of like migraine aura if you've ever had that - you'll have a bad headache - it will feel like your head is going to explode. Your ears may ring and whoosh/throb with your heartbeat. If the fluid level is high enough, you may also have diminished vision or no vision. Hopefully you'll have gotten yourself to the nearst emergency room long before the vision goes...

. . . . By all means, Thumper, tapwater is by far the safest if you intend to engage in this type of play, but do add the salt as advised by enema couple because if you do not the water can be absorbed into the bloodstream and lead to water intoxication and even brain swelling from what I have read.

Play carefully.

Regards...

Hello from a neophyte.

I read a post about adding salt to a soapsuds recipe. Is this to prevent absorption? My wife has a very sensitive rectum and colon and I really want to be "mild" with her first.

Thanks in advance!

For anyone on this board who has taken enemas, that "brain swelling thing" isn't going to happen. You can say how it is theoretically possible, but unless you consume so much water in your enemas, then expel, then do it again and again and again and again, then drink a couple of gallons of water, it isn't going to happen. I know if you google it, you will find someone, somewhere that had a problem or even died from this, but the likelihood of this happening is much, much less than winning the grand prize several times in the Powerball, Lotto or other big lotteries. No one's brain is going to explode, I promise. 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁

The two most mild enemas are plain tap water and a solution that has 9 grams of salt per liter/quart of water (0.9% NaCl w/v is physiologic saline). The salt at this concentration will prevent water absorption from the colon. Soap is definitely an irritant and while oil won't irritate, it sure makes equipment clean-up a real pain in the ass if you expect it to be really clean, especially in the hoses and closed top bags that you can't get your hand or a soft brush inside to thoroughly clean.

For a novice, there is no question, plain tap water is best. The addition of salt doesn't make it less irritating, it just prevents water absorption. A tap water or physiologic saline enema is no more or less irritating to your rectum than either are to your mouth. (They are both are composed of the same type of epithelium.)

I never take an enema without one teaspoon of seasalt for each quart of water.Yes.I also add soap in the enema solution,but I use a seperate 14oz plastic container connected with a Y connecter to the enema hose with seperate clamp to control the soap.I like the idea of making my enemas complicated and hi-tect as possible,so I'm always dreaming up differant ways to make my enemas exciting and new.Let the good times flow.w/m72yrs/W.MA

I maybe should clarify that my medical problem with the excess fluid was years ago - long before I ever started any enema usage/play.

And as others have pointed out, the addition of a small amount of salt can prevent excess absorbtion - again likely a problem for only a very few individuals.

I would think that some common sense and in the case of introducing a new partner to enema usage/play that a couple questions regarding any medical conditions would be in order. I think the biggie is knowing your limits, stopping when it no longer feels good or you don't feel right and definitely having a partner you trust and a safe word.

Seweccentric has it correct, the "brain swelling" isn't what it seems to be saying, it is pressure on the brain from additional fluid accumulated in the tissues surrounding the brain that cause the problem. The information in the reply is right on target. The term is mis-leading!

I may be a newbie to the boards, but not a newbie to enemas. I always follow a soap enema with a salt/baking soda wash - very soothing, it matches your body's electrolytes so you won't feel so wiped out afterwards.

I always use soap/water for my first series and salt/water solution for my rinse.

Uniodized sea salt mixed with warm water i believe will have the same specific gravity as your blood so it wont be absorded into your body. not so with iodized sea salt which is chemically different and acts different in your body

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Iodine is a necessary mineral in the diet. At least 150 micrograms per day is needed to prevent goiter, and the fact is, many people would not have enough iodine in their diets if not for iodized salt.

Most sea salt generally lacks sufficient concentrations of iodine, an element essential for human health, it is not necessarily a healthful substitute for regular iodized table salt, which is usually supplemented with the element, unless another source of dietary iodine is available. Iodized forms of sea salt are now marketed to address this concern.

Having iodized salt in your enema isn't a bad thing.

The correct amount of salt to make a physiologic saline concentration (NOT specific gravity) is 9 grams per liter/quart of solution. 0.9% w/v is the physiologic concentration of saline solution.

Ok, so just water will be absorbed by the colon and you will pee. A LITTLE salt will correct that BUT does nothing to retain potassium. A very important electrolyte.

Adding SALT to the water does nothing as far as what you FEEL in taking the enema. In other words, it feels exactly the same during the enema as plain water.

The difference for me between plain water and salt water is AFTER the enema - I don't feel like I've had all the life drained out of me after a salt water enema. I do after a plain water one (especially if it's a series of enemas).

We dissolve soap in an enema to make it more effective as a cleansing enema. Adding salt causes the soap to curdle, reversing the process. Taking a saline enema or a soapsuds enema works, but a salt/soap enema is a bit foolish. Saline enemas tend to stay in the bowel longer. They can produce unhappy accidents if administered before bedtime.

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That is a reason to spend $12 for some adult diapers. You absolutely need them when holding an oil enema. They are great after a good high enema.

I've never had soap curdling problems. I add salt to liquid soap enemas to slow the soapy water absorbtion through the colon. If I am using coffee, damiana or other herbs that I want to be absorbed I leave the salt out.

My enema system has two containers instead of one bag.Both are clear plastic with markings on the side.There is a large 3.5 qt and a 16 oz container for the liquid soap mixture that I make.Each container has its' own clamp.When taking a saline and soap enema,I will click on the soap container clamp when I have taken about three quarters of the solution.This way,I never have to mix the soap in the large enema container.The 16 oz soap mixure is good for about four enemas.The soap mixture consist of three packets of castile soap,one oz of liquidfied Ivory handsoap mixed ahead of time in peanut butter jars.Let the good times FLOW

Yes, I have experienced what speedstick77 has described. It isn't exactly curdling of the soap, but rather a precipitation of the soap and salt mixture that tends to float on top of the rest of the solution, and the amount of precipitate varies with the type of soap.

I have noticed it most often with strong concentrations of baking soda or epsom salts mixed with some soap solutions.

The curdling you see is soap scum. It's caused by the soap binding to calcium (in tap water) and magnesium (in sea salt and epsom salts), forming a substance insoluble in water. If combining soap and salt, use plain old table salt; much less (if any) scum will form.

If one is watching their salt intake say for high blood pressure and heart problems could saline enemas be harmful? Is any of this salt absorbed into the body? What about soap? Is this a strain on the kidneys removing all this excess salt and soap. I should of paid more attention in biology class.

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A tablespoon of either per quart of water shouldn't be an issue, unless you have Chronic Kidney Disease or another serious health issue. Like we always say, "everything in moderation" and don't overdo.

Actually I take issue with some of the above. A tablespoon will make the solution hypertonic and as a result there can be a significant net gain of sodium. Normal Saline is about .9% sodium chloride, so about 1 teapsoon per quart is fairly close. If the sodium concentration in the water is the same as it is in body, there is no net gain or loss of sodium. That makes it a non-issue. The whole point of products like Golytely is they have the same ionic concentration as body fluids, so they produce no net gain or loss of ions like sodium, potassium, Chloride and Bicarbonate. These products are considered safe for just about everyone as a result.

Soap is generally non-absorbable.

As Ladydocisin said, unless you have Chronic Kidney Disease, the water should be a non-issue,

and with an isotonic solution, there should be no net gain/loss of water either.

Hi matheww50. You are completely correct in your statements. A teaspoonful of salt in a quart or liter of water is essentially isotonic with serum and soap is generally non-absorbable One thing to note, highly irritating soap solutions will draw water into the colon, the bodies attempt to dilute the irritant.

NExt to the isotonic argument, if I remember correct ( and its been a while since i studied that) the colon just absorbs water, the salt managment is done higher up in the digestive tract, so salt should stay where it is.

Also any solution of salts thats of a higher concentration then the isotonic solution should extract water from the body, not salt into the body, this is due to how Osmosis works.

You should be fine with the salt solutions for enemas

One reason for putting Epsom Salt in an enema is to BLOCK or REVERSE the absorbtion of salt into the bloodstream during retention.

Hi LisaK. You are certainly correct in the effect of Epsom Salt. I have never tried to calculate the isotonic dose of magnesium sulfate but I'm concerned about the level of magnesium. If even a small amount of magnesium is absorbed it can badly disrupt the body's electrolyte balanace, something you really, really don't want to do.

I believe that a tablespoonful of Epsom Salt per quart/liter of water would be quite effective as an enema. What is your ratio?

Maybe I am odd, but I feel that using a salt water enema enables me to take in more water and hold it longer.

Lisa, you are certainly correct in practicing safety. I agree that you are doing it right for a good cleanout. Having the electrolyte solutions available is an excellent idea. Play safely and have fun.

I only use salt and water now. I did practice an epsom salt solution every now and then, but have come to the conclusion that the magnesium in the solution is bad for the heart. No need to ruin a great thing with the wrong solution.

Hi,

I tried a salt enema for the first time however I used normal day to day salt rather than non-iodized salt. During I felt nauseous then recovered some 30-40 minutes later. Since then I still have the taste of salt, I'm still holding most water, and I have diarrhea. I did the enema 3 days ago.

I'm still young at 35, so I know it'll pass but is there anything I can do to quicken the process. I'm trying to drink lots of water but I'm left feeling uncomfortable and a little jaded

P.s I used a lot of salt.

Regards

R.

Hi my first enema

You can't possibly be tasting salt from an enema 3 days ago you body delt with it within 2-3 hours as soon as you had a drink and you did a wee or several ! That is what your bowels do and very quickly.

Your diarrhoea is caused by something else.

An imodium would have sorted it and by now you should be better if not take some medical advice.

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