Military Physical Examinations

I was told to put clothes on again and to go back to the corridor where I waited until all recruits from our unit were examined and we were marched back to our section of the barrack.

You didn't mention any kind of rectal exam. Was that completely skipped? At a young age you wouldn't expect a prostate exam, but I thought they would at least do a quick visual exam for hemorrhoids, etc.

I posted this on another thread, so this is a cut and paste of my military entrance physical exam.

I joined the US military in the late '80's. As part of the entrance procedure, I had to go to the MEPS (military entrance processing station) and go through the physical exam. Before I was to report, my recruiter informed me that I needed to bring in a pair of shorts to wear for the physical exam, in case I did not wear underwear. No nudity was allowed in a group setting, so something to cover my privates was required.

I was in a room of approximately 30 to 40 men (no women). We were all stripped to shorts or underwear, and lined up for a group review. Doctors moved through the rows of men to check on any abnormalities (flat feet, scars, tatts, piercings), and walked through a few physical tests. Once those were complete, then we moved on to individual tests. They did hernia and anal checks, but moved the men behind screens for privacy.

I have read stories of enlistees from the '50s, '60s and '70s going through the physical exams bare assed, or some wore shorts, while others were nude. As far as clothing, my experience was very different. The military must have changed the rules in the late '80s.

You didn't mention any kind of rectal exam. Was that completely skipped? At a young age you wouldn't expect a prostate exam, but I thought they would at least do a quick visual exam for hemorrhoids, etc.

I didn`t receive a DRE or even visual check up. Nowadays in Finland it is extremely rare for a doctor to examine young mans prostate or anus, even in the military.

In russian army doctors doesnt check cocks.they only check body for injuries and etc

“poop” I don't think that you are right except if you are talking of exams performed in the very recent years if thre has been some changes in the required exams of draftees.

I have already read some relations of physical examinations of draftees, either in Soviet Union or in Russia now, and there was very often a check of genitals and palpation of testicles, not only a visual exam, and there was also a visual exam of the anus area by turning around, bending over and spreading widely the cheeks of the buttocks with very often the military doctor - no matter was the gender- who put hands on the cheeks of the draftes to spead them widely. It was like a standard part of all examinations of draftees.

I have even seen a photo of a draftee with his cheeks of buttocks spread in front of a doctor who examined his anus area in a very popular magazine news in France several years ago certainly at the time of Soviet Union.

@Woyzeck post 150: during my first and only army physical (at age 17),the doctor checked my balls quite thoroughly and then used an orchidometer to compare sizes. After that he noted something in my paper record. I do not know if this was regular practice, but the fact that he had an orchidometer might suggest it was.

To “mickey 83”

Thanks for the relation of your physical at the beginning of military service in Finland and I know that there is still now a mandatory military service in that european country.

But can you also relate with same details how was your pre-induction medical examination ?( since you said that the military doctor read your pre-induction medical forms) , the first exam as a draftee to decide if you were fit or not for military service ? how much were you old ?, where it took place?, how many young men were together undressed?, how much undressed?, for how long?, who performed the exam?, who supervised the draftees while undressing or waiting?, if there was somebody else than a doctor during the examination ?and so on ..?

“Big Bag Boy” message 152

You are certainly right about the fact that there was changes in the medical procedure to join the army at the beginning of 80 's, there was certainly a better concern about possible modesty of enlistees and more respect of dignity than years before when they were generally going bare asses to medical stations or rooms.

I think also that when there was in a country a mandatory military service with a draft process or even a selective service like in the United States, it was diffferent of the procedures carried on for volonteers for at least three reasons : no need to go so fast and in a very efficient way even without respect of the privacy of draftees, since the number of men to examin was obviously lower, the volonteers must be treated with more respect to keep them in their will to join the army, it is not necessary to have all the young men under strict control by making them strip completely for a long time, so that they felt vulnerable and more obedient .. since with volonteers there was no reluctance to follow military orders, the nudity had not to be used in that purpose.

I think also that the rules could be (or can be even now) more strict for male students in a military school, it seems that the nudity was more frequent and more practiced in large group according to relations of physical examinations, the nudity in group was considered as part of the training to change male students to soldiers!

“to Woyzeck ” message 150 and “Svenson”

What “Svensson” said about examinations in France was true at least in a recent past. It was not a rumor but a reality.

In France when there was still a military service, I can assume that the military doctors must check if all draftees had two testicles because if one draftee had only one and was declared fit for military service, or later if it was not detected when he had his physical examination after induction, the army could have to give a lot of money to the parents and the guy in case of serious injury and loss of the last testicle during training exercices at barracks.

So it was very important to check testicles and it was a standard part of the medical examination mentioned in medical form as I have seen it.

If a draftee had not his two testicles, he was declared unfit for military service and if it was (or is now ) a volonteer, presume that he was ( or is ) rejected from the army.

And generally according to my experience in the 60's and first 70's, a military doctor did not check it only visually and quickly because since the draftees and inductees were strak nakedin front of him, he could perform a more serious exam by palpation of the testicles and rolling each of them between his fingers and he did it ! Even there was no need to palpate the testicles to check that they were two, my experience was that the doctors did it And it could last a certain time as I had experienced myself even if the doctor stayed only professional without any inappropriate action.

"Woyzeck you write : “It seems that now, when the army is no longer mandatory in many countries, those who want to enlist are mostly worried that they will not be selected when it was previously the opposite. They are therefore ready to undergo these intimate examinations.”

It is not the good way to think about it ! Even if a draftee was not ready to undergo intimate inspections, his agreement was not asked, he was completely under control and was submitted to all exams decided by a doctor, even intimates like palpation of testicles, retraction of the penis and exam of the peehole, bending over and spread cheeks of the butt for a visual inspection of the anus, it could not be questionable by a draftee, any complaint would have been irrelevant.

I agree with “Pecan Nutjob ” that the palpation of testicles could be weird especially if performed in public but as I said before a draftee had no right to complain, he might comply to all orders at least at my time where the military service was very admitted in society and families.

To “Bernd 123” message 143

I presume by your name and your relation similar to other I have already read that you might have been submitted to that exam for military service in West Germany, or East Germany or may be Austria because of the drafting committee because I have never rea anything in relations in West germany about a drafting committe ?

It was one country where the draftees could strip in bathing trunks or sports trunks instead of just underwears of any kind (but not swimsuits or sport shorts) like it was in France when the nudity was no more required at the beginnin fior exams which did not require nudity. It was less embarrassing since it was in group for weigh-ins, heights andd so on …

The second part of your examination was rather casual and it was logical to make you remove your swimming trunks even if there was a female assistant ( even the doctor could have been a woman, it was common in Germany or Russia.) Of course It was uncomfortable to be naked in the room in front of the doctor's female assistant. It was common that a military doctor ( you could be lucky that he was a man !) felt thoroughly testicles and penis with long palpation and pulling foreskin back to examin the glan, like you said mainly to detect phimosis. And like you said the most embarrassing was certainly the turn around, bend over and pull buttocks apart slightly ( it was what you write, but for me it was rather as widely as you could !)

After it was more specific to your country with the report naked in front of a drafting committe in an adjoining room and you had to stand naked in front of three men for five minutes while they stared at your naked body and I presume that you had to answer to questions ? ( you could be lucky that they were all three of male gender) because in France when there was an examination naked in front of a draft board committee composed of about ten persons mixed of civilians represntatives of local and national autorities and superior officers, the military doctor performed also the examination in front of the members of the draft board committee, there was only one room for all the process and all a group of dratees were lining up naked in the room to be examined one by one but in front of the others.

And when a physical examination more thorough in a pre-induction military center replaced the draft board commission in the middle of the 60's, there was no more a report in front of the draft board commission like it was for you with three men sitting behind a table.

Were they dressed in military clothes or civilian clothes or a mixed of both ?

Did you get out of the second room examination with your swim trunks in the hands to report in front of the drafting committee ? where did you put them after entrance ? or did you have to leave them in the second room and take them again after ?

Your relation of a report in front of a small drafting committee is very interesting,, it is new for me !

To “Tygr 601” post 130

Thank you for the answer about the state which was Czech, so I was right about an eastern country.

The age of draftees was the same as in France : to be summoned, we might have reached 18 age but as soon as we reached that age we could be summoned..

In France it was almost the same than in your country, you could be summoned three years if you were postponed for medical reasons not enough serious to exempt you, so a guy could have to go three times in front of the draft board commission, it was what would have happened to me if the draft board commission had been maintained after the year of my first report but it was replaced by the physical examinations in a pre-induction military center where I have had to go three times (so I had to report in front of the commission only one time but I will never gorget it, when I was standing naked exposed to the view of ten or more persons sitting behind a desk and the waiting line of naked draftees and instructed to walk in the two sides of the great desk to be better seen by each member front and back and instructed to bend over and expose to them my naked buttocks for a while with comments about how they looked round and firm compared to my too slim body and the doctor pinching, grabbing and squeezing, them in front of all members with eventually a sound slap), since I was potponed the first year for a small lordosis, it was not a reason for exemption and as I followed studies in university, they preferred to postpone me and see me again next year for the same physical examination and same the third year and like they could not postpone a guy more than two times, they might take a decision about fitness at my third examination and they declared me fit but it was mentioned in my medical file, so I have had also more than one examination when I have been inducted. I had never been bare ass in group so often in a few years.

It was in which year for you? I asked the question because there was three women in the draft committee which would have been impossible at my time in france in the 60's .

When we we had still to report in front of the draft board commission composed of a dozen of persons or may be a litlle less ten, it was like for you, we had no showers before the examinations, there was a mandatory shower only for physical examinations in pre-induction military centers after the middle of the 60's when they replaced the draft board commisssions in a few years.

As I have already said it you were lucky to be allowed to keep your underwear to go to exam room because in France it was naked until 1964 in front of the draft board commission and just in briefs for the three or four last years, and naked in the pre-induction military centers all the first years and after depending on centers.

And you were only a small group of 5 guys in the room where you might strip completely, so not a great number to watch you being examined !

It is one point that I have not well understood in your relation : you said that you had to undress in underwears in a great hall by group of about 30 guys which was for you embarrassing because you were not used to undress in front of a so large number of guys ! but after you were separated in smaller groups of 4 or 5 to go to the exam room ; so inside the exam room you were only 5 guys ?

How long did you wait in just briefs in the large hall until your small group was called in the exam room? were you sitting on benches or chairs or standing in line in the hall ? how were you supervised if you were a great number of guys, I presume that you were not left alone, there might be some supervisors? military men ? or civilian men ? how much ? Were some persons walking by in the hall while you were waitting in just briefs after undressing like female nurses for instance ?

And in the exam room, you were standing and examined in front of six persons and among them three women and among the women only one doctor, the others being a military woman clothed in military clothes and a woman secretary in civilian clothes ( so not a nurse or medical secretary rather a secretary of the draft commission in my opinion )

The process of the exam was the most embarrasing with all the guys having their eyes tests one by one in front of the others before the other exams which means that all draftees had nothing to do than to wait and watch each draftee reading his letters but you were not already naked but in underwears for the eye test, it could have been worse if you had been instructed to remove immediately all together after entrance in the room your underwears!

And like you said you were really lucky not to have to do the orthopaedic exercices in the nude but in briefs and in group, not one after one, it could have been in the nude with some good reasons to check more easily the muscle movments. Were the three doctors coming near you to watch the exercices? did the woman doctor give you orders for the exercices or only the males doctor ? did she make some comments about the guys during the examination ?

Who was the doctor who gave you the instruction to take off your brief, a male doctor or female doctor, it was an instruction for all of you ?

if the genitals exams was performed with 4 or 5 guys in a line giving a good view to each guy to compare, I figure out very well that it would have been more embarrassing than the orthopaedic exam and same for rectal exam and finger in the butt ( it was not practiced at all draft examinations but I had also a finger in my but tin France in the pre-induction mlitary center, not in front of the draft board commission ). For me like for you it was the first time at 18 age and I was surprised and the military doctor did not give any explanation, it was only at physicals examinatrions after induction that an other military doctor explained to me what he was searching by inserting a finger in my butt hole !

You were also lucky that these intimate exams were performed by the male doctor, even if the other members of the draft commission could see all of the examination like you said. If you turned all in a line, all staff could look at the line of 5 naked buttocks and the assholes exposed at their view if you were instructed to spread your buttocks all five at the same time as it was generally practiced at the army, I don't know why , may be because it was more humiliating for the young men since the view on the naked buttocks was not obstructed for all the guys by the doctor who was just behind a guy each time he performed the exam, the other butts holes were completely exposed! .

But was it the male doctor who performed all the exams or some guys were examined by the woman doctor?

And did the woman doctor perform some other parts of examinations ?

Thank you for the explanation about the second time you had to touch your ankles or feet with hands without bending a little your legs since you did not follow the instruction the first time. I presume that it was embarrassing to do it again completely naked and in plain view a second time. Do you think that It was like a punishment decided by the male doctor to make you do it naked in front of everybody ? .

You did not talk of any slaps on your buttocks by a doctor, it never happened at your examination ?, even when the doctors were angry about the way you followed their instructions ?

I find surprising that the weigh -in and the height were only checked at the end of the exam but it was logical that they were checked while you were naked ! It was for me always the case at the army, a weigh- in was always checked stark naked on the scale with arms on the sides.

What was funny in your exam was that you believed that the exam was finished and you could take on your brief again which was an error ! and the head of the commission said that you were not allowed to take on clothes, but who was the chief of the commission ? the military man or a doctor ?

So at the end of medical exam always standing in the nude, you had to answer to questions to members of the commission, it was the same in France except that for me, there was no women when I have had to report in front of the draft board commision the first year. Did the female members of the draft commission ask also questions at you ? What questions if you remember ?

That was certainly a part of the exam which was very embarrassing, standing naked for minutes in front of six persons and among them three women ! knowing that they had seen you before in the nude standing on the scale or for height or worst for the genitals and rectal exam !

Still more if a guy might do again some exercices like for you touching your feet, were you back to them at that time exposing your naked butts to all members or were you facing them with genitals exposed. but naked butts exposed to the other guys as I presume it was ?

Or for the guy who might do again the eyes test and read letters on the wall but in the nude that time, I find it funny .. but it would have been so simple to malke you all strip immediately that I do not understand why they left you in briefs for the first part of examination ? Where have you left your briefs in the exam room when instructed to take them off ?

The curiosity of the girls school mates was embarrassing for you but understandable, and for them, it was rather an opportunity to tease at you since they had big fun about it like you said, it was indeed real fun for a girl who knew that it would never happend too her to imagine boys in the nude in front of the commission if they knew a little about it by rumors or relations by brothers at families or boyfriends, how you were examined all naked in front of a mixed commission with men and women, I know that in France all girls knew about the nudity of draftees even if at my time there was no co-ed schools.

Did you have to relate your exam in family to father and mother and to grand parents, uncles and aunts, especially if father and grand fathers or uncles were curious to know about it to compare with their own exams when still young persons ?

The majority of my military examinations were done by civilian doctors. My entrance exam into the prior to acceptance into the army was done by a civilian doctor although Ministry of Defence. Entrance examination done by middle aged female Dr. No nudity no dropping of shorts or intimate exam at all. When I had an physical examination while in. one physical by a military Dr, again very cursory look over, never invasive. When I got out, I had to have another medical examination at my unit before being completely released from service. Again, not even an examination, more of a question and answer and a declaration that I had no residual medical issues as a result of my service. This was all in the 1990s

I had exam later, about 2003. As you wrote, in a exam room was smaller number of guys, because we were separted to the smaller group and each group go to own exam room, more guys were waiting in a hall before exam room when was necessary to take off everything except undewear. Here was possible to sit or you can stand, it was up to you. At exam room was necessary to stand all time during exam process. In a hall there were people from army. In a hall all staff go there, like man and woman too. In a hall I was waiting a few minutes, not so long time. The head of the commision was a man from army. Orders and instructions during exam could give everybody, man and woman too and everybody had to do exactly what was said. I put undewear on the small chair, it was allowed to give it there. I didn´t speak about it with my father or grandfather, because I felt very shy to speak about it. Doctors or people from army asked about hobbies, your future plans, if you do sports, what position what you like to get at army, if you would like to go to univerzity and generally comented results of exam. Doctors didn´t slap on buttocks, but they were very very angry and ungently and start shouting if I didn´t follow all instruction exactly as was said. Spread of buttocks was done at the same time with other guys.

I passed in 1985 in Belgium; we received from the beginning a document describing all the examinations to be passed, in which dress and in which room. There were also some women who were with the men, except for the chest x-ray and the urine test, where they were separated!

For the urine examination, we were lined up with about ten people, one next to the other, and we had to urinate in a beer glass under the supervision of two nurses. The last examination took place at the doctor's, we entered a free cabin, we had to get completely naked and when the doctor shouted at the next one, we crossed a large room where the doctor's office was at the back. We were facing a large window overlooking a lawn. The medical officer would look at us from head to toe from the front, then from the back, pointing to the plant of the feet, bending down for the back & he would spread the buttocks when we were bent over with a lean on the anus. We got up and returned to him for a full genital examination. Then auscultation and blood pressure measurement. Then you could go and get dressed again. If the doctor called the next one at the same time, we crossed ourselves naked.

I had my exam shortly before the end of mandatory military service. Everyone there seemed really unenthusiastic and was just doing the minimum. I assume they knew the end was coming. The doctor doing the physical was the only one who seemed to be doing everything according to plan. There was no group exam. The physical was done with just the doctor and a assistant present. She checked my eyesight and hearing, posture, heart and lungs. At the end, I had to drop my shorts and she examined my testicles, penis, foreskin and had me bend over for a visual exam of my anus.

What I would like to know is why did the military insist on mass nudity. The group nude exam has been well documented and I remember it well, but we also had to shower and sleep naked. The worse thing about the exam was that there were young nurses observing or examining us. It was the first time a female outside of my family had seen me naked. I did not get an erection in the group exam, but I did in several private medicals which judging by the smile on the nurses face pleased her, but it did nothing for me as I had wanted my future wife to be the first female to see me with an erection.

What I would like to know is why did the military insist on mass nudity.

I've never had a military exam, so I have no first-hand experience with one. However, I can guess that they insisted on full nudity for a couple of reason. First, to get you used to the idea that you will have little to no privacy once you enter the military. There's no room for modesty in the military, or so I've heard. So why not start your military experience with a good old-fashioned nude exam?

Second, it may be their way of emphasizing the fact that they own you (once you're in the military). You belong to them and they can order you to do anything they see fit, including strip completely nude and be examined in front of everyone else.

Third, I think more than anything it's for control. If you think about it, a group of nude men or women probably aren't going to risk disobeying a command, or putting up any type of resistance to your orders. The fact that they're nude makes them more compliant, just as a nude sub is more compliant to their Dom.

Just my thoughts.

It's been a long time since I had a military exam, but I found the Doctors and Corpsman to be very accommodating and respectful. There was no group nudity and no indication at all that I was now “owned” by the military nor was it a “control” issue. I think that is just Urban Legend.

As far as being owned and controlled - that was up to the Drill Instructors - not the Doctors - and the DI's were pretty damn good at it!!!

I always figured it was simply convenience. My new doctor told me she was glad I mentioned it and she would begin doing it because it's certainly easier for her.

The military was just men until recently so who would care? I was in Georgia where it's rather hot in the summer. The army's idea of air conditioning was a big exhaust fan in the attic of the old barracks. If you were lucky it even worked. So when we were sitting on our foot lockers at night lying to each other about our great civilian jobs, it was not unusual to sit there naked after coming back from the showers.

One of the funny things that happened was when they billeted several Vietnam soldiers with us. Their army supplied them with pajamas telling them we wore pajamas. GIs wearing pajamas to bed? That was a good laugh.

Years ago I went for a same sex military exam. We had to report to the medical centre and were taken to a shower room and whist our Sargent watched, we all had a shower in a communal shower. Afterwards we were only allowed to put our underwear on and we were taken to a private waiting room where we sat awaiting to be called and Individually we were called into an exam room for our medical. The door was open so any medical staff passing would have seen us in our underwear.

Compared to most of the medical described here, ours was very tame. Yes there was nudity but that was only in the shower room and the doctors office. Walking down the corridor to the waiting room was a bit unnerving as we had our clothes in our right hand exposing us in our bra and knickers. When worked in a care home, I talked to women that had been in the military and had group naked medicals with male medical staff present. Another time during WWII young women had to all shower, wrap a towel around them and lay on their bed with their legs open and a MO would have a look. They said they found it really embarrassing as it was the first time a man had seen their vaginas.

I didnt have a army medical,i was in the navy,and it wasnt much of a medical we just lined up in our pants they had a quick look and feel and that was it,not as intensive as the army medical,perhaps the navy was just happy that someone had joined them

My husband told me this story. When he was 18 years old, he was drafted for military service. He was taken to a military recruitment center. Before recruits were sent to military units, they were given a detailed medical examination. The physical examination took place in a large room with a poster on the door: «Entry for ten people without underwear and socks». My husband undressed and went into the room with a group of other recruits. In the room were several doctors of both genders. “Line up in a row” - one of the doctors shouted. The recruits are lined up in a line. The doctor began to walk along the line looking at the recruits. The female doctors looked on from afar with a smirk. “Turn to face the wall” - followed command. Everybody turned around. “Bend forward and spread your buttocks with your hands”. Everything was done as the doctor ordered. The doctor walked along the line again, bending over and peering up the recruits' asses. And suddenly one of the recruits asked: “Tell me doctor, do you see in my ass demobilization?” The doctor turned red and yelled: “I see a submarine in your ass, on which you will spend the next three years.” I want to make it clear that submarines enlisted for three years instead of two, and no one wanted to get there.

My induction physical was done in '87. Most of it was in a room full of guys in just their underwear and socks, but the finger sweep was done in a little room alone with the doctor.

“Polina”

in what country and what year was examined your husband ?

I presume that it was in an eastern country ?

I have underwstood that a group of ten young men were all together naked in a room with several doctors of both genders, did they undress before in a locker room to let all their clothes or were they undressed already in socks and underwears ?

When they entered naked in the room , they were told to line up and a male doctor walked along the line and looke at each guy but you said that the draftees were told after by a woman doctor to turn to face the wall, to bend forward and to spread with their hands their buttocks, was it the female doctor who inspected their anus areas ? and who did the comment about spending three three years in a submarine instead of two in an other military unit which was a warn to the draftee for his mocking question ? Her reaction if it was a female doctor was rather brutal but understandable because in all countries draftees might keep silent when they are not told to answer a question at fitness physical examinations

I doubt that a doctor had the power to decide if a draftee might go to a submarine unit or in an other unit but may be you knows that she had that power ?

You had not talked of the presence of non commisioners oficers and nurses? I presume that there was a few female nurses also ?

“Nursekev "

Jimmy Johnson has answered to you about the reasons for which the army required generally nudity in group of draftees or what you called mass nudity. I think that it is right and I have nothing to add.

I believe also they were right to insist on mass nudity in the past if it was more efficient to go quicker and since there was no reason for the army to care about shyness towards mass nudity of male teenagers aged of 18 or a little more. ( some sport physical examinations were carried on with almost the same disrespect of male teenager privacy )

And you are true : in France too in the end of the 60' s and first 70's, we had to take a group shower which involved group nudity before being examined at a pre-induction military center, so nudity was required just after our arrival at the center, we stayed one day and a half, so we had to sleep for one night and it was forbidden to put a pyjama, we might sleep naked.

But for me on the reverdse of you, there were no young female nurses present to observ our exams or help the doctors when we were naked (nor older ones )

Can you give us more details about the presence of the nurse, were they supervising you when you were already naked and waiting for your turn of examination or when you walked naked in corridors to go from an examintation room to an other one ( if it was the case) or only in examination rooms?

how much were they ? what did they do ? exams like blood test, weigh-ins, eyes tests, ears tests and so on or just observe the draftees?

It seems that you had not all your examinations in just one room ? and that you had to go to several exam rooms with I presume each time different nurses ? how much guys were naked at the same time either in the corridors or in each examination room if you were not alone but you talked of private medical exams ?

How long did it lasted ?

Are you sure that the young nurses smiled when they saw your erection ? normally they might be professional in their attitude and not show any feeling since they might be used to see young men naked (except of course if they were new in that job) ,what said the doctor when he or she saw it ?

I presume that it was in a country where a draftee was expected to be examined in the nude and in presence of nurses because he knew it by relations or newspapers articles or newsreals on Tv, it was not a secret!

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Pretty much correct, a line of men in undies with 1 doctor. Real quick check and I almost failed for flat feet but I received an exemption

I want to share my experiences for my military medical exam here.

It was 1976 when I was called up for my medical examination, compulsory military service had not yet been abolished in Belgium. On the specified date I therefore offered myself, I was referred to a room in the barracks. At one point a soldier came in and spoke to us, we were about thirty boys of almost all the same age, around 18 years old. After reminding us of our duties and rights, he announced that the medical examination would begin. We were taken to another room, there were all lockers here, the accompanying soldier told us to free our upper body and to take off our shoes and stockings. Dressed only in long trousers, we had to follow him, in another room we were then arranged alphabetically by name and we all received a cup in which we had to deliver a urine sample. Afterwards we all had to wait in the hallway, one by one we had to enter a room. After a while it was my turn, I entered the room and was measured and weighed, then I could go to a second room, here the blood pressure and pulse were recorded, in the third room my eyes and hearing were tested to finally go to the dentist who checked my teeth. When everyone had passed the rooms, the soldier spoke to us again and said that we should appear at the doctor's office in a moment, he also told us that in the room where we had to go there were five changing cabins and that we had to follow the instructions given there. were stated, when someone came back out, the next one could enter. The first five boys were sent in immediately, so the others still had to wait. After a long time it was my turn, I stepped inside, what immediately struck me was that one of the boys was standing completely naked in front of the doctor's office. I continued to the changing cabins, I was shocked because instead of a door, the cabins were closed off with a curtain. Three curtains were closed, the curtain of the other two had been opened, in one of the cabins I saw clothes hanging and then decided to take the next one that was completely free. There was a sign on the wall that told me to undress completely, even take off my watch, then wait for my name to be called. I did what was asked and stood waiting naked like that. Through a crack in the curtain I saw the next boy walking completely naked to the doctor when he had heard his name, the boy who had been examined only then came back naked. After a while I heard my name, I opened the curtain and went to the doctor, it was about six meters in front of his office, on the way I met my predecessor, of course we were both completely naked. The doctor, a slightly older man, sat behind his desk and asked for my name, when I had mentioned it he asked me in a friendly way if I wanted to keep my arms at my sides and look straight ahead. He looked from head to toe a little later he asked me if I wanted to turn around, he certainly also looked at my backside now. When I was still facing the office I heard the door open and close again, I thought of the image I had seen, so those who entered now could see me standing completely naked in front of the office. When I turned around I heard the doctor get up and come behind me, he now asked if I wanted to bend over, whereupon he felt my spine from my neck to just above my butt crack. Then he said to stand up again and show the soles of my feet, then he took a stetoscope and listened to me from both the front and back. I then had to make a few knee bends and again I was listened to. Afterwards he put his hands on my shoulders and asked if I wanted to spread my arms sideways, so he felt my shoulder joints. When he was done with this he told me that I could lie on my back on the examination table, he came to stand next to me and felt all my joints of arms and legs, then I had to put my hands behind my head and he started my armpits to be scanned. Starting at my neck he then began to feel my chest and stomach, not a square inch was skipped, he stopped when he got to my pubes. Turn around he then said and I lay on my stomach, my back was also scanned to stop just before my butt crack. When he was done he told me to stand up and spread my legs, I watched him put on a pair of rubber gloves, I could already guess what was going to happen. He sat down on a low stool and sat directly in front of me and examined my pubic area. After taking a good look, he pushed my scrotum aside and the fingers of his hand pressed into my groin, he asked me to cough, the other groin received the same treatment. With his left hand he took hold of my penis and pulled one up so that my scrotum became clearly visible, with his right hand he embraced my sac and felt it very thoroughly, sometimes he tightened his grip, but this was not really painful. Then he released my scrotum and paid attention to my penis, he pushed the foreskin back as far as possible and then pushed it back to the front, he did this a few times so that my penis became a bit stiffer, the last time he the foreskin all the way back and left it there too. He now took the completely naked head and pressed it briefly so that the urethra opened slightly. A moment later he let go of my penis and stood up, telling me to sit back on the examination table, leaning on my elbows and knees. Once I sat like this he stood behind me and told me to spread my knees, after I did that I felt how my buttocks spread and I suspected that he must have had a good view of my star. Suddenly I felt a finger pressing against my sparkler, but he started to increase the pressure and the finger went in, I was shocked by this. He must have felt that too because immediately told me to relax and that it would be over soon. I thought this was a strange feeling and not only in my ass but I felt something on my penis, I went down and saw a drop of moisture appear on my head. The doctor then started twirling his finger, after a while he pulled it back and as he took off his gloves said the exam was over and I could go back to dressing. I had only just stood next to the examination table when the doctor already called the next one to him, so when I stepped to my changing cabin I also met the boy who was to be examined after me completely naked. Finally, I was found suitable for military service.

I had mine done in1982, There were probably twenty to thirty of us. The whole process would take too long to go through. A lot of it was going from exam station, to exam station, following the guy in front of you. At the end of the exam, we were all lined up shoulder to shoulder in our underwear. A older male doctor, and a older female nurse came out of a room by where we were lined up. The doctor explained that when he and the nurse stepped in front of you, to drop your underwear to your knees, and he was going to examine your genitals, and check you for hernia. When he was done with you, pull your underwear up.They started at one end, and went down the line. When they had finished going down the front of the line. The doctor then explained that when you felt him tap you on the shoulder, drop your underwear, and bend over, reach back, and spread your cheeks wide. Then the doctor and his nurse started coming back down the line looking at your butt. No rectal exam with a finger, just looking. So if you weren't lucky enough to be on the end of line, you were stuck beside someone getting his genitals examined, or his butt looked at. And they were stuck beside you while you were getting yours examined.

From what I can remember when I joined the navy in 1961 it was pretty perfunctory. It was performed on an old Naval vessel tied up in London. RRS Discovery. She was built in 1901 and was used by Scott in the Antarctic. She was the last of the three masted wooden ships built in UK.

Needless to say, there wasn't a lot of room on her for medical exams. I think we went in one at a time, stripped, had the usual checks followed by what I thought was a pretty bizarre finale. We had to grasp an overhead bar in the passageway and swing our feet up to touch our hands. Not sure whether this was an agility test, or just an excuse for the doc to get a good look at our anuses.

Thought it was pretty weird at the time, but at 15 you don't question things like that.

Hi,

Earlier this week, the Polish press described the story of a female psychology student called to the so-called qualification before a military commission (generally, in Poland, the duty to appear for military qualifications applies to men, but also to some women who, in a given academic year, graduate in fields such as nursing, medicine, veterinary medicine or psychology). I thought it might be of interest to some of you, so I translated it and am posting it in full here.

https://www.medonet.pl/zdrowie/zdrowie-dla-kazdego,wezwali-ja-przed-komisje-wojskowa-i-kazali-sie-rozebrac-do-majtek--chce-pani--zebysmy-powiadomili-prokuratora-,artykul,81870883.html

"They called her before the military commission and ordered her to strip down to her panties. 'Do you want us to inform the prosecutor?'"

Justyna is 23 years old and studies psychology. Recently she was summoned to appear before a military commission. Once there, she realized that she had more in common with the other young women than not knowing why she was there.

A student to the army

Military service was the last thing Justyna thought about when choosing her field of study. Although a psychologist on the front lines is not unusual and is sometimes very needed, the only people who go there are experienced specialists. Certainly not young people who have not had much contact with patients yet, and especially not students of psychology. So when she opened the letter summoning her to appear before the military commission, she first thought it was a joke, then a mistake, and finally she was really scared.

"It's just a formality, don't worry", "just show up and get over it", "you'll see, it's nothing terrible", "you'll get the paper and forget about it" - her friends said, and she tried not to think about the worst. — "It's not that I wouldn't serve. I would do it, but only if I had to, not of my own free will", she admits honestly.

The call did not say anything about what the process would be to determine her fitness for military service. The first surprise was waiting for her when she arrived at the address indicated in the letter.

The military commission was waiting for Justyna in... a kindergarten. — "I was confused, then it made me laugh, and finally - when it was all over - I was downright disgusted. It's sick that something so disgusting could happen in a place where children stay".

The corridor was full of young women, most of them her age. — "I quickly spotted my colleagues from the university. After a short exchange of opinions, we realized that what we had in common was not only a complete lack of understanding of the situation we found ourselves in, because I was not the only one who did not know why I was summoned and what the evaluation would look like. There was something else: we were all final-year psychology students".

While waiting for her turn, Justyna noticed that her colleagues were leaving the office dejected. They looked away and avoided talking. Only later did she understand why.

"Are you really going to cause trouble?"

When she was asked inside, she saw three people in front of her: two older women - a nurse and a recordkeeper - and an even older man, a doctor. “I was immediately struck by their attitude, as if they were sitting there as punishment, irritated and tired of life,” Justyna recalls. Then a bizarre discussion began.

“Please undress,” she heard. - "But everything, down to the panties" - added the nurse when she saw that Justyna had only taken off her blouse.

- I won't strip down to my panties.

- How so?

- I just won't. I don't see any reason why I should do that.

- Are you really going to cause trouble?

— I'm not causing any trouble, I just don't want to undress. I'm on my period and it's uncomfortable for me.

- The doctor has already seen many things, and besides, it's a duty. Don't fuss. You'll undress in no time and that's it.

- I will not do it.

- Do you want us to notify the public prosecutor? You are such a young lady, what are you for?

As Justyna says, at that moment she was close to tears. She felt cornered and intimidated. She had no idea whether she might actually get into trouble with the law for refusing. What if it was true? What can these people do? She had her whole life ahead of her, she was just starting her professional career, maybe she should grit her teeth and just get through it? Thoughts swirled in her head.

Finally she said she wanted to go out, call and talk to someone close to her. No one spoke, so she turned and opened the door. As she was leaving, she heard: "Just knock before you come back. The doctor will decide whether he will admit you again."

“I finally got undressed,” she says quietly. — "I just got scared".

"I was seething with anger and helplessness"

She remembers what she heard during the examination vaguely. “I guess I repressed it,” she admits.

— The doctor began assessing my fitness for military service by kneading my breasts. What was this for? He wasn't even a gynecologist or oncologist, but a surgeon! - Justyna is nervous. — I stood there, seething with anger and helplessness, not knowing why I was there, or why I was forced to undress, or how it was possible that the doctor was looking at me almost naked and groping me. After all, these things are not crucial for military qualifications. It was disgusting.

Justyna's examination was accompanied by crude comments and jokes.

— As he finished, the doctor said, "I hope you don't have any surprises in those panties, like hiding razor blades or anything like that," and laughed. I was embarrassed. And not only me, because when I later talked to one of my friends, she admitted that she had also heard similar comments. The doctor commented, among other things, her thighs, saying: "Jesus, you have so much cellulite. You know it won't go away? It's too big."

Later in the exam, when the doctor assessed the posture, he also allowed himself to make comments. "You're crooked", "Your legs are so lopsided", "You'll have varicose veins", "do You eat anything at all?", "Your figure is poor".

After the examination, Justyna returned home quite quickly. She didn't feel like talking longer, and she doesn't think any of the girls did. To this day, she wonders whether stripping down to panties was enough, or whether her friends did have to stand there naked, and whether her period "saved" her.

Today, a few weeks after this incident, Justyna has very bitter reflections.

— Emotions have subsided a bit, but I still wonder why it has to be like this. The world is changing, but it's same old story here. Callousness, lack of respect, crossing boundaries. Sometimes I think: why did I study psychology? To stand in front of some old stranger and hear that I have to take off my clothes because if I don't, there will be consequences? I just wanted to help people.