Who knows the status of your circumcision?

Family, doctors, sexual partners, strangers who saw my penis in locker rooms, restrooms, and a few nudist venues and sex venues. There are some other who could have inferred my status based on conversational comments.

It is a really long list.

My mom and dad, my stepdad, my mom's brother and his wife, my stepdad's brothers and their wives and children, and my grandparents who are no longer with us. The urologist who circumcised my penis, many other doctors and nurses who examined my genitals in the past, many of my friends and those who I've had sex with. My gym friends and those who simply saw my penis when I was in the locker or the shower, my high school and college coaches, and a couple of my former employers who requested employment physicals in the past. There were also many men who stood next to me at the urinal.

The list goes on.

and a couple of my former employers who requested employment physicals in the past.

Do you really think that details of employment physicals were sent to your employers? This is, in my opinion, not allowed due to medical privacy. The doctor should only indicate if there is a problem that prevents you from doing your job, and I don't think circumcision is one of them.

Do you really think that details of employment physicals were sent to your employers? This is, in my opinion, not allowed due to medical privacy. The doctor should only indicate if there is a problem that prevents you from doing your job, and I don't think circumcision is one of them.

In the United States, medical records are protected under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) but nothing prevents an employer to ask for a release.

In the United States, medical records are protected under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) but nothing prevents an employer to ask for a release.

I believe we signed a medical release at time of employment. We worked on sensitive government contracts Our employer could request medical data if they had a reason and even share it with our sponsors under certain conditions. My understanding was it was rare if they ever did. I doubt they cared about my circucision status!

I don't know if my employer knew I was circumcised. The doctor did not check it, but it is possible that I had mentioned it on a questionnaire. This employer had its own medical department, the report could be transmitted from doctor to doctor. More details here if you are interested:

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Obviously, my wife and former girlfriends know I'm circumcised! There are records of this in some medical offices since they asked for a list of past surgeries.

I also, very seldom, discussed it with friends. I recall conversations with a guy of Algerian origin who was pissed he had been circumcised for a faith he did not partake in, and a Jewish guy. I also had a couple conversations on the topic with female friends.

. I also had a couple conversations on the topic with female friends.

Sometimes when I (wrongly) think the circumstances in a conversation are right and might be amenable to a discussion, I give it a try to bring up the subject, but never get any reaction. It is like the other person went momentarily deaf.

So I have learned, that even one on one, apparently no one wants to talk about circumcision. And I include men as well as ladies.

@agracier One is a lady friend who is very open and upfront about sexuality! I don't recall how to conversation went to that topic— I mentioned to her that circumcision can have (admittedly limited) adverse effects, from my personal experience. The other mentioned that her son had phimosis and that their physician was already talking about surgery; I pointed to her that such surgery is not as innocuous as physicians may present it. I did not directly say I am circumcised, but I suppose it was quite obvious from my comments.

Only those that have seen me naked.

It not à big deal if your employer know you got circumcision 90% of américain are circumcised

There are records of this in some medical offices since they asked for a list of past surgeries.

Interesting that you mention circumcision in a medical questionnaire, I wouldn't do it now, except for an urological exam. I recently did a wellnes stay with a medical exam at the beginning. I would have been embarrassed to speak about my circoncision when the doctor asked me what surgeries I had had. The chances of a genital exam were low.

It not à big deal if your employer know you got circumcision 90% of américain are circumcised

It is not a big deal, but why should your employer know that you are cicumcised? Perhaps if you are an actor and you have a frontal nude scene in a movie.

It is not a big deal, but why should your employer know that you are cicumcised? Perhaps if you are an actor and you have a frontal nude scene in a movie.

Wouldn't matter at all around here (the USA) it would be blurred out either way like the popular TV show Blurry and Afraid.

Personally i dont care if my doctor , employer or anybody else know i got circumcision.

I was born in USA and like 90% of my male friend i got circumcision.

It not à big deal if your employer know you got circumcision 90% of américain are circumcised

But 66% percent of the rest of the world isn't. Of the remaining 33%, most are religiously mandated so actually out of category. And the percentage for the USA is currently at 80% and going down each year (with newborn males now at around 50%).

But since so many other aspects of a person's medical condition are considered confidential, I really have to wonder in what way that circed or not could influence someone's work performance. In which profession or job is it either an advantage or a disadvantage?

I for one cannot think of one. Even if you wish to get a job in porn acting, there are certain to be scenes in which both conditions give both an advantage and a disadvantage.

Otherwise, I would really like to know for which profession this would be significantly important enough and job related that an employer should know.

Otherwise, I would really like to know for which profession this would be significantly important enough and job related that an employer should know.

I suspect it’s a carry over from a standardized - or slightly tailored - form. Agree, there’s no reason for the employer to know, might be reasonable for a doctor to be aware of. These forms typically also ask ethnicity as there are heditary reasons to assess risk. That info also isn’t needed by the employer except for diversity - but that’s typically on your employment application. It is valuable for medical risk assessment.

@woyzeck They ask for a list of past surgeries. Circumcision is a surgery, albeit a minor one. Actually, I think I just said I had been operated on for phimosis.

I suspect it’s a carry over from a standardized - or slightly tailored - form. These forms typically also ask ethnicity as there are heditary reasons to assess risk.

Where I live and in other EU countries, like France, any kind of database that includes info about ethnicity/race (and religion as well) are forbidden by law.

Where I live and in other EU countries, like France, any kind of database that includes info about ethnicity/race (and religion as well) are forbidden by law.

I see it on almost all medical/insurance forms; Hispanic, white , black. They all have the option “prefer not to say”. Some groups are higher risks for certain cancers and other disease so the information is deemed medically significant

Some colleges/universities - even businesses - use it (as well as gender) to make admission or hiring quotas, which I think is discriminatory. The US Supreme Court recently struck down using race as a criteria for admission, but I suspect the institutions find ways to work around that

I doubt however, few, if anyone, discriminates based on circumcision status! 😀😀😀

In the 83 years I've been around no one has ever said anything about me having a foreskin. I just spent 10 days in the hospital with no underpants under my gown so I was exposed to about everyone who came near my bed and no one seemed to care about that or the fact that I keep my pubes shaved/short. Most of the nurses/assistants were not shy about looking either. The 17/18 year old girl who recognized me from her high school simply went about what she had to do which included wiping my butt and washing my balls and penis without retracting it.

Apart from partners and parents. I had genitals examinations with at least five pediatricians before puberty. They all know my circumcision status and also reported retractability on medical records due to my phimosis. About twenty other people seeing me during showering and sauna.

My GP having done complete physical examinations on me and also about twenty others between urologists, andrologists, internists, surgeons and nurses seeing my penis during medical procedures. Obviously my playdoc who loves treating my prepuce for different affections.

I doubt however, few, if anyone, discriminates based on circumcision status! 😀😀😀

Should the status be known, I surmise that indeed in the US a circumcision is nothing special of note.

However in other places, say in many European countries, it will most probably be (often erroneously) inferred from a circumcision status that one is Muslim/Jewish or not. Should this be a valid criterium for discrimination? Obviously not, but for many it may still be an influence on sublimated choices one unconsciously makes, despite the best of intentions.

@agracier I heard that, to convince my parents, our doctor said that that surgery for phimosis is not like circumcision for Jews… sign that they may have been uncomfortable about it!

@Jacana I dont understand what you mean

Jews circoncision and circoncision for phimosis it not the same thing ????

@Mikael22

I dont understand what you mean / Jews circoncision and circoncision for phimosis it not the same thing ????

This is a sort of little white lie that a European doctor might tell a patient/parent when a rare truly medically indicated circumcision is necessary.

Many people (in Europe) are uneasy or put off by the religious connotations of circumcision, so some patients need some kind of reassurance that they are not being subjected to a religious practice they want nothing to do with. Hence a doctor might concoct something to reassure them. For instance say it is done differently or that less foreskin is cut off or whatever experience has shown the doctor that it works.

Many people in the US have no idea how much aversion the notion alone of circumcision can evoke.

Jews circoncision and circoncision for phimosis it not the same thing ????

In French we have two words: circoncision and posthectomie used for medical surgeries. Most people don't know this second word and use only circoncision.

Besides my family and my wife, a boy from my 4th grade class ran up to the urinal trough when I was standing there and looked at me to see if I was circumcised or not. Why, I have no idea nor do I know if he told anyone else. The guys I played football with in high school would have seen me when we showered together in a large community shower. I'm sure they looked, but nothing was ever said about it. Also, one girl I dated and would have married but we didn't, she would have known, but we never talked about it. And of course, almost all of the doctors I have seen would know, as well as nurses and operating room people when I had surgeries.