Will Medfet die out over time as societal norms change?

I think as long as people see doctors and feel shame, there will be medfet. Not to mention the internet is unlikely to go away and medfet archives will be available for years to come. It also seems like there are are good number of younger members from my own observation.

I don’t think it will die out. Even though general primary care appointments are becoming less thorough over the past few years, sensitive exams will always exist for various reasons.

I don’t think it will die out. Even though general primary care appointments are becoming less thorough over the past few years, sensitive exams will always exist for various reasons.

That is correct.

But from reading accounts here, it seems that an important factor is being young and having sensitive or intimate exams done on you and often not understanding the reason why and not being told because everyone seems to think you are too young to understand.

Once older, most people come to understand the reasons behind certain aspects of exams and medical procedures and then endure them without the type of embarrassment so typical of childhood. And therefore develop less of a sexual fixation on medical situations/things/exams.

With the actual medical environment we are currently in it may not spread it as easily as it did decades back. I don't think it will die out. With the internet images, videos, and information is available. If one is interested and does a search.

But actual experiences are going to be different for patients of today. Maybe creating different medfetters than are present here.

We'll just have to check back in 5 to 10 years.

To my preceding message https://en.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;msg=1324441

I would add that nowadays, physicians are supposed not to perform examinations by surprise, that is, warn about what they would do.

In contrast, when I was a kid, I received digital rectal exams without the physician bothering to tell me what would happen (I got warnings such as "if it hurts say it immediately", but no "I will push my finger into your bottom").

@Public_Enema Physicals and Wellness Exams are two different animals.

A physical exam is what it has always been, and as such are provided/requested when something new happens - you are a new patient with that doctor, before participating in a sport or medical test. All physicals are not the same except for the purpose - to determine if the patient is healthy enough to do what they plan. If problems are revealed during the physical the doctor may or may not treat the condition depending upon agreement with the patient.

A Wellness Exam is one performed at the behest of Medicare (in the US). A typical doctor visit is scheduled for 15 minutes including checking vitals and any reviews the practice thinks is necesary. A Wellness Visit is scheduled for 30 minutes, of which at least 15 minutes is a Q &A mandated by Medicare for a WV. Some questions are intrusive, none are actionable by the doctor , and the questionaire is sent to Medicare via the insurance company (if you have a Medicare Advantage policy). The doctor seldom sees the answers and they have no benefit for the patient - it is just a scam to increase costs. My last "no cost" wellness exam cost me $200 so I refuse to schedule them and if my doctor does I cancel them.

One question I have is whether exams being less complete (i.e. - not stripping to my underwear) are a function of moving on from a pediatrician to an internist or whether exams changed from the 80s/90s to today even at the pediatrician…..

@Robbob006 I often wonder this myself. Was I on the cusp of a major change in the way exams are performed as I transitioned from the pediatrician to an adult doctor? I hope that some of the younger members can provide information about how exams are conducted at the pediatrician nowadays. It seems to be the consensus of most members that exams with an adult doctor in today's world are less thorough and involve almost no nudity. I also wonder about exams with an adult doctor prior to 2000. Were exams more thorough? Did exams require the patient to undress? Did the doctor examine the patient's intimate areas? Perhaps some of the older members can provide accounts of their physicals with adult doctors prior to 2000.

Not a chance

As if boys and men can't be molested just as well. Forgotten about all the catholic church cover-ups?

I think that boys were historically far easier targets as they had no precious virginity to protect, no teenage pregnancy to fend off. Few real consequences to deal with. Plus less awareness of same sex abuse in the past, when homosexuality was hidden due to prohibition or adverse societal attitudes, made the crime easier.

We just don't read about historic sports teachers of either gender telling their female classes to strip off etc in the way so common for boys.

It seems like you could still request a full, thorough head-to-toe exam from your provider. Has anyone tried that?

If you watch Head to Toe videos made by students on YouTube, they are actually quite thorough.

Here are two detailed exams of male patients by female practitioners:

https://youtu.be/Z5WkpFFs2v8

https://youtu.be/ZIRvVrjmjMQ

The patients may be clothed but I get the impression that this is done more to protect their modesty as actors than as patients.

Sometimes the practitioner will include an analysis at the end where they watch their own video and comment on anything they would change. Sometimes they say things like, "I would have asked the patient to remove their shirt, but we didn't have much privacy."

I believe students of medicine are still being taught how to conduct thorough exams.

I've heard that insurance companies put pressure on professionals to streamline the process, but I have also heard of private doctors who will spend more time with you. So I think that ultimately the fetish is safe for now.

I would agree that societal influences are a factor in driving sexual interests. But a million other things goes into that equation, including half a million definitions of what "medfet" or whatever you want to call it actually is. The core instinct around sex is a hard wired need to procreate at the animal level....and don't get hysterical over that statement of fact. The human brain is infinitely more complicated than our base animal instincts....which is why you have the million different flavors of what is desirable....straight, gay, sex with aliens, whatever. That said our experiences definitely influence our view of what is and is not sexual, and that coupled with one's own flavor of what is desirable turns into a fixation, special interest, casual experiment, on and on.

But back to the original point...will all these various medical interests fade away over time due to changes in how one experiences medical situations? Logically the answer would be yes. Will they disappear completely? Not unless medicine ceases to involve the human body. How long will it take? Probably not so soon that it will impact any of us reading these message posts.

Let me substitute a non sexual subject to illustrate my point. If there were a collective pool of folks who currently find automobiles sexually stimulating (I'm sure some do but set that aside) - the genesis of that would have changed dramatically over the past hundred year. It likely started with a sexual interest around the horse and buggy method of transportation....maybe with the wooden wheels or spokes, the feel of air rushing by, the use of a whip and reins, the feel of leather sets, etc. Riding in a buggy was a sexual experience for some and could be thought about, discussed, engaged in mutually between sexual partners. As the automobile came on the scene it changed the mode of transportation....but you still have leather seats, a gear shifter instead of reins, fancy chrome wheels, wing vents ... new but similar stuff to get excited about so the interest carries on in new ways with a nod to the old. And then over time the car goes away...no one travels anymore, or we are whisked to our destination via some floating magnetic platform where all you do is step on and go. Eventually everyone forgets that the horse and buggy or cars ever existed and it seldom comes into view or discussion. Autofet ceases to exist.

In a strange way I'd argue that the prevalence of sites like this and the porn industry making a cash grab with a rather pitiful version of medical play can be detrimental in itself. The porn sites have highjacked 12 seconds of a medical start to things to entice folks into signing up for what they hope is 30 minutes of a medical encounter but end up getting 29 minutes and 48 seconds of routine porn. And then you have people who expect to instantly find a partner with similar interests online with no effort required....or you get endlessly bombarded or shamed by folks who think their interests must of course be shared by you. Or they scream hysterically evoking Shakespeare's ...the lady doth protest too much...whenever anyone suggests that a doctor actually can have normal sexual feelings without acting them out. It was a lot easier to engage in medical interests, albeit much slower, 30 or 40 years ago than in today's world. It takes quite a bit of work to find common interests in real life encounters but I'd argue that the internet world is actually much quicker to condemn you, scream at you, cancel you and your thoughts, and bully folks than in personal social interactions. Sort of the medical world devouring itself with all this.

If you want to find like minded people there are plenty out there, many don't know they share similar interests, but you won't discover those interests with them unless you try to in a non hostile manner and be willing to meet in the middle...or even only on the tip of the iceberg in terms of how they view things vs how you do. As long as medicine involves the human body there is a sexual connection....it's that base animal instinct from which our brain comes up with all these fantastic fantasies, whether acted upon or not, and so forth, and it is not going to go away.

Maybe a millennial would be able to answer that best. I know that as a baby boomer, there have been decades of very active medfet practices and followers. It’s actually made a huge impact on my life in a very positive way. Recent ideologies have been successful in destroying the lives and cultures of people worldwide, so my thought is that medfet will become forgotten forever, in short order.

Recent ideologies have been successful in destroying the lives and cultures of people worldwide, so my thought is that medfet will become forgotten forever, in short order.

I'm really curious as to what correlation you are drawing, I get that there's so much crap going on all over the board recently on all sides of the fence...what do you think will put a nail in the coffin in terms of medical kink?

I hope they do not die out - I would like to have a real play exam performed by a play doc (vs homemade making do) one day.

I see society becoming more fragmented and divided. I believe that AI, and virtual reality will dominate over physical intimacy in the near future. Children are no longer being taught how to interact with each other. They’re being taught that one group is good, and the other is evil. This indoctrination will likely influence their lifelong behavior.

Children are no longer being taught how to interact with each other. They’re being taught that one group is good, and the other is evil. This indoctrination will likely influence their lifelong behavior.

You are probably right about this tendency continuing and getting worse as the years go by.

But in all historical fairness, it must be said that such behavior seems to periodically break out in societies when viewed over the centuries.

Just from my personal experience alone, in the Catholic schools I went to in the US during the 1950s, we were told not to play with Protestant kids and I won't even mention what was said about Jewish people then. There were no Muslims back then or they too would have been in for it from the nuns and priests you could have surely bet back then.

I know that this and other things in those schools so enraged my parents (mother especially) that they took me out and placed me in a public school.

"That is a nice thought, but in real life people know so little about history and the past."

I would edit that to say "some people". There will always be those of us who are interested in history, or maybe just plain snoopy or nosy.

I don't think Medfet will never die off. There are to many people interested in the fun of it.