It will always be a Vagina, not a Vulva.

so I watched TV. It may have been a W C Fields movie where he was getting ready to go out and the scene shifted to the kitchen where a young wife was helping an old(er) one wash dishes. She complained that her young husband expected sex and the old one told her it was her duty as a wife to do that.

Now you've got to tell me which movie that was. If anything in a W.C. Fields movie or others from that era, it were the men who were henpecked by the ladies, except for the unrealistic love interest between two younger members of the cast, usually from opposite sides of the railway tracks.

To me, in a W.C. Fields movie, it felt like the old guy looked kindly on the couple in love and was only interested in getting a drink, a cigar and finding a poker game. And looking for those elusive spandoolahs as he put it ... ha ha

A possible aside here, but if anyone has seen the movie 'the Last Duel' by Ridley Scott, you will have noticed that in the period the movie is set in (mid 14th century), it was believed by all, even church authorities, that for conception to be successful, a wife/women had to experience an orgasm during sexual relations as well as the male, otherwise there would be no fertilization.

Scientifically inaccurate of course, but my point is that women expected to experience pleasure in sex, is not a modern notion. The notion has, like many socially influenced ideas, come and gone throughout the centuries, going from one end of the spectrum to the other. We are just recovering from a period of previous prudishness of the Victorian Age and before.

I refer to the movie not as an authority, but simply as an easy reference.

I find it interesting that somehow we seemed to lose everything we obviously knew at one time. I don't know why but I have a tendency to blame that on church people and their preferred interpretations. I try to tell my wife what she reads in the Bible is not God speaking, it's Matthew or Mark or whomever's interpretation of something that happened hundreds of years before they were born. Maybe even the way they would like it to be.

I'm pretty sure my father knew how to pleasure my mother as I caught them a few times but by the time I was in school that stuff was dirty and not talked about by anyone who may have been knowledgeable. I wasn't born until 1940 but my mother was his 2nd wife. He was in WWI and had worked for Louie B Mayer as a projectionist in Haverhill MA before L B became part of MGM.

This thing won't let me quote from far enough back but I believe TrinaStarr used the word "Pussy". I like that and think it's a beautiful name for it. I wish us guys had anything similar to call our shit. My wife hates the name Pussy so I called it her cunt and I think I missed a day or two from my life.

Us old farts used to meet at Dunkin for coffee which I don't do any more because they're all residing on the brown side of the grass now and they might lock me up for sitting there talking to myself. There was a great waitress there who would talk to us in real world speak. She called hers a pussy.

Speaking of the young girls who worked there, they had some class in school where they had to take home a real world doll that needed to be fed and changed often. The doll went off one time as I was waiting for my coffee and I told her she wouldn't have to attend to that if they taught her how to install a condom. She told me they did teach her that. So it seems they ARE getting some type of sex ed. I didn't know her well enough to get into it though.

The young girls I hear at school call it a VJ or sometimes a vaj. They also call each other that.

In my mind.. if I am looking at the full upper region between a woman's legs, in which I can view her vaginal outer lips, her Mons Pubis area, and her rectal area, I get much more sexually aroused if I think of it as her "Vulva". Also, when I am speaking of it in a "chat" area such as this.. just typing the word "Vulva" is much more stimulating to me. The "thought" of using that word is what gets me going.

Now you've got to tell me which movie that was. If anything in a W.C. Fields movie or others from that era, it were the men who were henpecked by the ladies, except for the unrealistic love interest between two younger members of the cast, usually from opposite sides of the railway tracks.

To me, in W.C.Fields movie it felt like the old guy looked kindly on the couple in love and was only interested in getting a drink and cigar. And looking for those elusive spandoolahs as he put it ... ha ha

Surely you don't expect me to remember the name of an old movie I watched after midnight nearly a century ago. The young woman's little kid was in the living room upstaging him but that could have been almost any of his movies. Naturally she asked him if he liked little kids to which he replied "if they're properly cooked".

I liked the radio show where he told about being sent to town to find his grandfather who used to tell him he would have discovered electricity but he was too poor to buy a kite. He found him outside the tavern hire'n a kite.

Thinking more about the word "Vulva" creeping into current vernacular these days.... in my youth a full hairy bush was so much the norm and obscured the vulva. Did not think about a clam shell or floppy lipped vulva back then. No camel toes... My focus was not upon the opening lips; but rather upon getting into the vagina...

@reddevil Informative article about the history of medical awareness of the term "vagina". One comment was that "vulva" was less offensive to say than "vagina"....but the term vulva for the external female gentalia gentalia has been around for a long time - the only thing "creeping" about it's use is us "creeps" who are infatuated with it! 😈

https://www.healthline.com/health/vagina-history

I used to have an old Vulva 760 turbo... oh, wait...😁

My focus was not upon the opening lips; but rather upon getting into the vagina...

You just made my point for me.

You just made my point for me.

Yeah, us guys are just beasts and it's up to you to train us. I remember the first time I got my glans inside, well almost inside. It blew up before I had it all the way in. I think it must be an inborn reaction that we have to learn how to control. I certainly was disappointed not getting all the way inside for a nice warm hugging. She wasn't the only one who was let down.

@Nurse_Phillips - Bingo on all of your direct, succinct and correct posts; numbers 16, 24 and 60. Thank you.

When I’m a play doc I use all the correct terms. Never had a complaint.

Not wishing to intrude on the recent thread intended for women to disclose the names they use to refer to their vaginas I felt I had to post this somewhere. Years ago a woman I met told she referred to her vagina as her "fun factory" which made me smile. Somehow I think I'd have had even more fun in her anus but wasn't invited.

@tallslenderguy Yes, but some people still wanna drive a Vulva, maybe it's a Swedish thing?

Funny, thanks for giving me a laugh! Anyway, back in the late 1940's, I was told I have a penis and girls have a vagina.... never heard the word "vulva" till only recently here....

Not wishing to intrude on the recent thread intended for women

My thread is open for both men and women to post - I think you have my thread confused with

https://en.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;msg=627931

Surely you don't expect me to remember the name of an old movie I watched after midnight nearly a century ago. The young woman's little kid was in the living room upstaging him but that could have been almost any of his movies. Naturally she asked him if he liked little kids to which he replied "if they're properly cooked."

That was from the movie Tillie and Gus.

IMO, "The Vagina Monologues" did a lot to advance the misuse of the correct anatomical terms. I've read that the playwright opted to keep intact the mistakes real women made about terminology when she interviewed them in early research for the play.

I really prefer to use correct anatomical terms. The vulva/vagina thing is a pet peeve, as well as people calling the ball sack testicles instead of scrotum. You can’t see the testicles unless you’re doing surgery or there has been a horrific accident, much like you can’t see the vagina unless you’re using a speculum. They’re both internal structures.

@Rigel One comment was that "vulva" was less offensive to say than "vagina"....

It would also have made things easier for me when young as I was always concerned about calling one of the many Virginia's in our family "Vagina" - so much so that with Vagina and Virginia both rattling around in my head at the same time; well, you can guess what came out by mistake!🫢 😳🥵

As a possibly interesting aside: the French words for "vulva" and "vagina" are "vulve" and "vagin". However, I don't think anybody in France calls the external female genitalia "vagin", which is only used to refer to the (admittedly very inviting) internal part. It would be interesting to know if the American usage of calling "vagina" the external genitalia has crept into Québec French.

First time I read that I was like Volvo must be coming out with a new model to compete with the new Tesla .

Vagina FTW

After all the goop marketing on vagina scented candle I wouldn’t want her to get burned printing new labels .

It could help you remember her name ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LW0RikQ3mc

Before I knew the correct terms I used whatever slang or description I did know. So as a kid I only knew to refer to that area as 'front crack', 'front butt', etc. When I learned the correct terms and understood the anatomy better I switched to using those for the most part.

The "vagina" and "vulva" are different anatomically - and should be referred to correctly. According to several dictionaries , there is a term that applies to the overall female sexual anatomy - sometimes meaning vagina, sometimes meaning vulva, sometimes meaning both. It can be offensive or endearing, but rather than misusing the terms vagina and vulva - it would be more correct to just use the term cunt!

it would be more correct to just use the term cunt!

Also a good way of ensuring you'd have a hard time getting any pussy ... ha ha

Here’s a short tongue in cheek video of women explaining the diverence between a vagina and vulva by drawing - and celebrating - their vulvas. They comment on the beauty of women’s sexual gift at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YmTKNBoOyE

Oooh God, they’re both TERRIBLE! — I can’t stand either one. I call it the ‘VAH-JAY-JAY’ or simply, ‘DOWN THERE’.

Oooh God, they’re both TERRIBLE! — I can’t stand either one. I call it the ‘VAH-JAY-JAY’

OMG no not that please, it is such a silly and immature word.

Call it "marital orifice". 😉

"MY BRAIN HURTS, MY BRAIN HURTS!" shouted Mr Gumby clutching his head while standing in his garden.

Check these medical sights out and learn about the real terms and where things are located. Knowledge is power.

https://teachmeanatomy.info/pelvis/female-reproductive-tract/the-vulva/

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/female-reproductive-organ-anatomy