Article in a newspaper: "Doctor, I want a nice penis"

I have just read an article in a newspaper from Geneva (Switzerland). I find interesting that a mainstream newspaper is interested in this subject, even if they do not give any figures, a university hospital refused to speak. I translate a few excerpts (GHI May 3, 2023).

Until now prescribed within a strict medical framework, circumcision is apparently changing its status in our society. It may be a taboo that is about to break. Indeed, more and more young people want to be circumcised for aesthetic reasons.

“Today all girls prefer a circumcised penis,” says without taboos Julien, a young man of 19 who has just had surgery. “My girlfriend was very happy, she finds it more hygienic and more pleasant for her, especially during oral sex.”

“Today all girls prefer a circumcised penis,” says without taboos Julien, a young man of 19 who has just had surgery.

He is very much mistaken, and I don't think women like my wife would appreciate him telling them what they are supposed to prefer.

You can find here a copy of this article (in French language):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18Ds6NtVy5yHNWHD4Rmy2l-W3CCwOtSvo/view?usp=share_link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18AfhN3u3zB8inpdvTQbx3ZKLIU7ENZ8-/view?usp=share_link

If this is accurate and not an exaggeration designed to generate this type of business in some Swiss hospitals, I suspect this desire for so-called aesthetics is based on or influenced by American pornography, which I also blame for the notion some people have that all female genitalia must have an identical, featureless appearance based on someone else's idea of perfection.

“Today all girls prefer a circumcised penis,” says without taboos Julien, a young man of 19 who has just had surgery. “My girlfriend was very happy, she finds it more hygienic and more pleasant for her, especially during oral sex.”

Making a statement like that is hype. There is virtually nothing in the world that all girls/men or whomever like. Such things are measured in bell curves or in Gaussian distribution. Sociology 101.

It also sounds like someone is trying to convince themselves they made the correct decision.

@agracier is right - it's either hype, salesmanship (indoctrination?), or self justification. Not a legit evaluation of what women prefer.

If you want to have a "nice" penis - whether circumsized or not - send it to Finishing School.

I've heard many times from a variety of women that they prefer circumcised for oral. Few seem to see a difference for vaginal, though I've heard complaints that circumcised men tend to irritate the vagina more if lubrication is poor.

Today all girls prefer a circumcised penis,” says without taboos Julien, a young man of 19 who has just had surgery.

There is no one thing for everyone and to say that is very narrow minded.

As others have said, it sounds like hype for this doctor and his procedure. Nothing more.

“Today all girls prefer a circumcised penis,” says without taboos Julien, a young man of 19 who has just had surgery.

Do we really??? I like uncircumcised and that is what my husband is, most of my friends prefer uncircumcised too and I have not heard any younger English girls say they prefer circumcised either. Maybe Julien is just a dick.

I was uncircumcised until 16 years old , After a bad motorcycle wreck I had a catheter put in . {see this isn't my first catheter } It stuck to the catheter and I had to be cut to get it out , By cut I mean I was circumcised . So I know both worlds . . At first ,,,, for many years I missed my penis being "as it should" . Then for quiet a few years I enjoyed it as it was , My wife loved it . Then for years it didn't matter . Now that I have to live with a catheter ,It's easier to take care of it . I am talking to a lady right now on the phone { I'm saying yeah , Uh huh , ok , in the right places } That if I wasn't circumcised it would have been a deal breaker !

I am talking to a lady right now on the phone { I'm saying yeah , Uh huh , ok , in the right places } That if I wasn't circumcised it would have been a deal breaker !

I wonder how a lady would act if a man told her getting and remaining intimately shaved was an absolute requirement and if not, then a deal breaker. Or with other body attributes.

I bet it wouldn't go over very well.

I am talking to a lady right now on the phone { I'm saying yeah , Uh huh , ok , in the right places } That if I wasn't circumcised it would have been a deal breaker !

Well circumcised is what she likes and if she is polite then maybe it is ok, but I read a few years ago about some American ladies who freak out and get a lot more nasty about uncircumcised and that is NOT ok.

It's interesting you mention females removing their pubic hair. There may be a parallel.

In the 1970s, women wore their pubic hair (except perhaps some adjustments when wearing swimsuits). It is later that complete removal became a fashion, and it is often alleged this fashion spread through pornography. It is even said that some kids believe hairless is normal and hairy indicates some condition and/or is "gross". It is often said that children and teenager take their information about sexuality from pornography.

(Similarly, it seems that some American children and teenagers, male and female, believe circumcised is normal.)

It may be the case that this fashion of cosmetic circumcision alleged by the newspaper is due to American pornography, which shows circumcised males in the vast majority. (Just look at the photographs on this site.)

(It may also be the case that the newspaper is de facto advertising for urologist to an upper middle class readership, those who can afford such an elective surgery in adult age.)

In the 1970s, women wore their pubic hair (except perhaps some adjustments when wearing swimsuits). It is later that complete removal became a fashion, and it is often alleged this fashion spread through pornography

Pubic hair grooming became fashionable, once the stigma of shame was removed from doing so. Prior to the 1970s, there were so few instances when ladies would or could show their naked pubic regions to anyone outside of husbands (and even then this was not necessarily common perse).

But once it became socially acceptable to do so in specific circumstances, then the human predisposition and innate desire to fashion looks and groom came into play. Because honestly, an un-groomed bush of pubic hair left to grow wild does not look very appealing (just view 1970s photos of naked hippies ... ha ha) and the pubic hair moreover hides all the sexual attributes and organs themselves. There is nothing to see or get aroused over.

Far better to reveal the sex organs and groom the surrounding areas properly so that it gives a pleasing, cared for look. This doesn't necessarily mean complete hair removal, grooming goes a long way on its own.

Notice for instance how traditional/tribal people who live in hot climates and don't wear much clothing, if any, also take to grooming virtually every part of their bodies.

It may be odd now that you mention it , But for 30+ years my wife kept us both shaved clean , And Yes after she passed away and I started seeing other ladies , Yes I prefere shaved clean , And the Lady I was talking to yesterday morn , {Oh man can she go on and on and on } She does like circumcised , Or don't take it out of you're pants . And the guy must be at least trimmed short or shaved or he's not getting any .

I remember way back in the 70's when swim suits were getting smaller and showing more and ladies started trimming or shaving so as not to have hair hanging out of their suits . And awaited the summer with anticipation ! And I remember over hearing my 13 year old daughter talking to her mother about shaving or trimming and left the room for a long bike ride to leave them alone . Did not know or want to know what the outcome of that was . As a father I figgered I should make myself scarce . And ignored as best as possible !

This article is now online, you can translate it with your browser:

https://www.ghi.ch/docteur-je-veux-un-beau-penis

This article is now online, you can translate it with your browser:

https://www.ghi.ch/docteur-je-veux-un-beau-penis

Quoting 19 year-olds on the question is somewhat dubious when it comes to stating what should otherwise be informative and medically experienced opinions.

This really sounds like disguised advertisement.

Quoting 19 year-olds on the question is somewhat dubious when it comes to stating what should otherwise be informative and medically experienced opinions.

Do you think that my translated quote in the first post was dubious or those of the journalist?

If my quote was dubious, I accept this criticism. This seemed to me more interesting for a debate than the medical opinions which must be known.

This really sounds like disguised advertisement.

This question opens another debate. In big cities, there are usually too many doctors, while in other areas, often called "medical deserts", it takes months to get an appointment.

I understand that a urologist in a big city is subject to competition, lacks patients and willingly accepts to perform cosmetic circumcisions without any real medical justification. There are also doctors who openly advertise, I even saw in Geneva advertising in trams for urologists.

It is therefore possible that this article was inspired or even sponsored by a doctor. This newspaper is a newspaper distributed free of charge and which only has advertisers to exist.

But I have also seen even worse in Canada, a clinic that offers circumcisions during the first appointment, without even a cooling-off period between the discussion with the doctor and the operation.

Do you think that my translated quote in the first post was dubious or those of the journalist?

If my quote was dubious, I accept this criticism. This seemed to me more interesting for a debate than the medical opinions which must be known.

Just that the statement of one 19 year old is not statistically significant, despite his claims. He is a sample size of 1 offering his own subjective, personal view offered without evidence to support it. So is the statement of a girl claiming that uncircumcised boys are garbage. These views being given in what seems to be a biased article does not make them broadly representative.

If my quote was dubious, I accept this criticism. This seemed to me more interesting for a debate than the medical opinions which must be known.

The article itself quotes a 19 year old. Wasn't referring to you.

There are also doctors who openly advertise, I even saw in Geneva advertising in trams for urologists.

I've seen adverts for gynecologists on buses in Granada Spain too ... meanwhile here where I live, doctors, lawyers, notaries, dentists, hospitals, clinics etc are all forbidden to advertise in any way. Even the size of their name plates on offices is limited in size. For an equal and level playing field.