Examination of female, both holes

A long time ago I was fortunate to do an examination of a female with my thumb in the vagina and my forefinger in her anus. I was able to feel how thin the tissue is between the two. I found this quite incredible how thin the "rectovaginal septum" actually is. Has anyone else felt this area on a female?

My GF never had her Tush explored! She had NO idea that it could be a source of pleasure. Before we became intimate I was upfront with her about my anal fetish! She was very clear that my cock would never fit back there, but was open to my fingers, tongue and smaller toys... One of the first times I penetrated her.... with fingers... I rubbed the membrane between her ass and pussy... And she enjoyed it! Also... with a vibrator in her pussy... I applied pressure on her G-spot from my finger.

This past weekend I was fucking her from behind.... while fucking her ass with my thumb... Amazing sensations!

Yes it is very thin.

But stretchy :-)

Butt, it does feel good!

I used to do that with my ex. First time I was stunned at how thin it was. This is some pretty delicate tissue.

Never during a play exam she is not into medical role play. But during sex getting her ready for anal sex I have had my fingers in both her holes at the same time. And yes the wall between the two holes is very thin. I have slipped my finger up her ass during vaginal sex and was surprised by how well I could feel my cock.

We called it the "Bowling Ball Grip"

I came across a video once where the doctor had inserted a Collin speculum (opens to the sides leaving the top/bottom of the vagina exposed) and then inserted his finger into the patient's rectum. He pressed it upwards and pointed out how you could see his finger pressing into the vaginal cavity. It was remarkable! You could literally see his finger moving around the bottom (posterior) vaginal wall, as if it was a latex rubber dam that someone was pressing from behind.

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I’ve read somewhere that midwives can feel poop in the rectum when conducting a vaginal examination during preparation for birth

I have! On a few occasions when my two fingers were deep in my subjects vagina pressing on the back wall I could feel hard stool that was in the rectum, not ready to come out yet. Below that position all was very soft. Even my subject knew it when I pushed harder. Hmmm, time for an enema me thinks?

I’ve read somewhere that midwives can feel poop in the rectum when conducting a vaginal examination during preparation for birth

My wife could be quite tasteless at times when discussing the lesser mentioned aspects of birthing. Working in a hospital she heard all manner of stories and gossip from other staff.

Inexplicably she seemed to delight in telling how some women, just prior or during labor, would, in spite of preparations beforehand, still expel copious amounts of fecal matter and afterwards tell of what satisfying bowel movements they'd had.

I really found that in bad taste, not the kind of mental imagery I wanted in my head about birthing. Every time I'd see some sort of birthing scene in a movie or show or whatever, I wondered why this was never even referred to. Probably because it would mess up the whole unrealistic romanticism projected about giving birth, especially in scenes of emergency births in a car where a police officer helps out and proudly shows a perfectly clean and pristine new born.

Reminds me too of medieval notions of birth, how commentators would readily write such things as (paraphrasing): we are born amid a flood of blood, piss and shit, which indicates how mankind is of an inherently sinful nature.

Really gleeful stuff. Ugh.

My wife could be quite tasteless at times when discussing the lesser mentioned aspects of birthing. Working in a hospital she heard all manner of stories and gossip from other staff.

@agracier, very interesting post!

Inexplicably she seemed to delight in telling how some women, just prior or during labor, would, in spite of preparations beforehand, still expel copious amounts of fecal matter and afterwards tell of what satisfying bowel movements they'd had.

One Zity lady told me how for her first birth, no enema was offered or indeed needed. The blood curdling screams from the delivery room gave her the most effective evacuation she'd ever had; it is a known bodily reflex when humans face unavoidable terror.

Reminds me too of medieval notions of birth, how commentators would readily write such things as (paraphrasing): we are born amid a flood of blood, piss and shit, which indicates how mankind is of an inherent sinful nature.

Yes this is just how my father described my entrance into the world without any midwife available or time to prepare. It's been like that ever since.

One Zity lady told me how for her first birth, no enema was offered or indeed needed. The blood curdling screams from the delivery room gave her the most effective evacuation she'd ever had; it is a known bodily reflex when humans face unavoidable terror.

When my wife told her graphic tale of messy births, the lady in question wasn't in terror or scared. Apparently it was the baby's head pushing over the bowels that squeezed out all the remaining fecal matter. Really giving her a good cleaning out.

I'm surprised by the expectation that an enema would be offered or seen as needed. When I did birthing classes at the hospital before my child was born, it was just presented as a matter of fact thing, you are very likely going to shit during delivery, don't starve yourself to try to avoid it, you need energy to push. (I did, and the nurse didn't raise an eyebrow, wet wipe and move on.) In the moment, after dozens of hours of agonizing pain during which endless medical personnel have had their hands in your junk, it just doesn't even register as embarrassing, and probably you already puked in front of or on them during the transition stage anyway, and if you're in the pushing stage when a bowel movement is likely to happen, you're about to disgorge a ton of blood and mucus along with the baby and placenta in any event. Birth ain't pretty. 😄 Folks who have an epidural may not even realize they've had a bowel movement during pushing. It may not be on TV because most people don't want poo in their entertainment, but it's certainly a very common event in real life births.

it was just presented as a matter of fact thing, you are very likely going to shit during delivery ...

if you're in the pushing stage when a bowel movement is likely to happen, you're about to disgorge a ton of blood and mucus along with the baby and placenta in any event. Birth ain't pretty. .... It may not be on TV because most people don't want poo in their entertainment, but it's certainly a very common event in real life births.

My brother-in-law's wife was all into the natural home birthing thing and wanted me to take photos of the delivery. I'd already heard enough from my wife about the messy specifics of elimination of all kinds of bodily fluids and matter during birth. I was so not looking forward to taking photos, but had a hard time coming up with a good excuse. There was lots of pressure and naive giddiness about the Wonderful Event that was soon to take place.

Luckily the sister-in-law developed complications of some sort and had to be prudently whisked off to hospital to finish the business.

I felt like I had dodged a bullet.

Loveee having this done to me 😃

Laying on my back with my legs pulled up against my chest. You feel completely full and the sensation of the person's fingers rubbing against the wall separating your ass and pussy is incredible.

Inexplicably she seemed to delight in telling how some women, just prior or during labor, would, in spite of preparations beforehand, still expel copious amounts of fecal matter and afterwards tell of what satisfying bowel movements they'd had.

Guess I'm lucky. I saw my wife give birth to all three of our children and she didn't have a bowel movement during any of the births. No enemas, either.

Loveee having this done to me 😃

Laying on my back with my legs pulled up against my chest. You feel completely full and the sensation of the person's fingers rubbing against the wall separating your ass and pussy is incredible.

I thought you're built like that so when you get drunk your'e boyfriend can pick you up like a 6 pack and carry you home.

I have done this many times. I am a nurse what can I say? Lol

It’s surprisingly thin! I’ve felt it a lot

I’ve read somewhere that midwives can feel poop in the rectum when conducting a vaginal examination during preparation for birth

I can't remember how old I was when I discovered that poop can be felt through the vaginal wall. I was even more embarrassed when I realized what a doctor may have been feeling during my vaginal exams. Enemas never crossed my mind.

I have had a recto-vaginal performed on me during a play exam. Thinking back on it, and watching footage of said experience, it was rather arousing. From seeing myself in a vulnerable state, highly nervous as I never experienced such an exam before, and watching the doctor's gloved fingers sliding in....one in my vagina and the other, after being told to relax, into my rectum. To add to the excitement, watching as his fingers slide out of both holes at the end...sheesh. 🥵

Yes I have done this a couple of times on my wife, but she is not really into, it. I thought t was quite hot.

This used to be fairly standard in a real exam but in the past decade or so the number of doctors who routinely perform a rectovaginal exam has decreased dramatically. Partly due to the fact that imaging is more effective as far as diagnosis goes unless there's an obvious mass that can be felt, and partly due to the trend of being far less thorough in general. The chances of finding something troubling during a routine rectovaginal exam is slim, in fact statistically there's not a lot of value in outcomes even with the pelvic exam itself in a symptom free patients.

For a play exam it's a major part of the experience if performed correctly. If I'm examining my wife it's always included, if I'm working with a play patient I always offer it along with an explanation and benefits. Beyond the septum area you have access to the cul de sac and positioning to manipulate the uterus and ovaries from a very different angle. The cul de sac is an area that in the hands of a good play doctor can lead to some intensely erotic stimulation that entirely cancels out the uncomfortable side of this exam. If I have a husband or significant other in the room watching the exam it's always the top highlight for them. It's even more exciting for the husbands that accompany their wives to real appointments since as I noted earlier it's terribly uncommon these days so they have a very hard time finding a doctor to perform this. If you are a playdoc it's a very valuable procedure to learn to perform, and take the time to learn to perform it correctly if you have no medical background. You'll get a big thumbs up from your patients

Doc4u72 I've long suspected that the chances of diagnosing a problem with a bimanual or rectal vaginal exam, given the lack of symtoms, is rare. Interesting to have real professionals comment on there experience. I had an internal medicine doctor tell me he had never diagnosed cancer with a prostate exam during all his years of practice so he quit doing them. I wish I had asked him if the same were true for female exams.

Silverfox- in a way it's worse than lack of a diagnosis. I've not been in the real world of medicine for some time, but I do keep up on current advances and the realization that overtreatment due to false positives is out of control is very alarming. Even the recent requirement here in the US from the FDA to notify women whether or not a mammogram reveals dense breast tissue or not has some troubling consequences. You create this high level of anxiety that something "might" be abnormal due to breast tissue density that cannot be seen on a routine mammogram. This results in additional mammogram screening that is most often not covered but insurance. Worse is the level of tissue biopsy. Don't get me wrong, if it helps a single woman then you have to say it was worth it, but there is basically no evidence to demonstrate that the mortality rate from breast cancer has been decreased as a result. That is where the focus needs to be...decreasing mortality rates, not increasing how many new tests we can put a patient though.

Having said that there is value in these exams, but from a very humble opinion only point, when you encounter the doctor who performs a 15 second internal exam with a 5 second rectovaginal exam, that's just not enough to find anything other than a very large mass or lesion. I've actually found a few problem while performing play exams, you can't diagnose of course, but you can tell the patient she needs to see her doctor. I've found fibroids a number of times and did find a uterosacral nodule once during a rectovaginal which in fact turned out to be endometriosis. It was partly luck due to the location, but also curiously the fact that I was conducting a play exam which was much more thorough than the real thing in most cases.