Permission to use corporal punishment of a student

I went to Catholic school in the 60s the nuns were given permission by my parents to discipline us for any misbehavior or not doing homework it was given in the coat room with a pointer (cane like instrument ) or board of education(wooden paddle) no more than 10 strokes were administrated then when you got home you got more from your parents in my home it was done by my dad with his strap and it was done on the bare ass it was usually 25 or more

I went to Catholic school from first grade through 12th. I did have a few friends that were expelled for things like smoking but I can only remember one instance in that time where a nun took someone out for a paddling. I've found that since though I do so like to turn a bottom a nice shade of red. Always start with the hand then after a nice glow then use an implement. It makes it easier to take for some reason. Anyway "Assume the position!"

I don't have to fantacize about my Christian schooling (ages 4-17) being very strict when rules were broken and/or expectations were not achieved.

Don't get me wrong... my schools (pre-school, kindergarten, primary, elementary, junior high, and high school) and teachers were excellent. The teachers and staff clearly loved the kids and school was always a LOT of FUN, and academically challenging in FUN ways. The school was very serious about helping each child identify his/her personal mix of interests/gifts/talents and ALWAYS provided an abundance of ENCOURAGEMENT and positive reinforcement. The teachers did not have unreasonable expectations. For example, a child who was not as gifted in math/science was NOT expected to achieve beyond his/her potential in these subjects. Every child, however, was absolutely expected to achieve within his/her potential. The school did its part to make learning fun/enjoyable, and the students were EXPECTED to do their part. Laziness was not tolerated. And, Disobedience, Disrespect, and Dishonesty (the THREE D's) were absolutely not tolerated.

Sending children to these private Christian schools was only possible if the parents agreed with the schools' policies and procedures, including the traditional corporal punishment of naughty boys and girls. There was no such thing as "opting out" of strict discipline! If it was determined that a student deserved a spanking, there were only two (2) options... 1> the student could accept the spanking, and a note would be sent home AFTER the punishment had already been administered... or 2> the student could "appeal" the spanking. If a spanking was appealed, a parent would be contacted BEFORE the punishment and provided the opportunity to either give approval or denial for the appeal to move forward. If the parent denied the appeal, the punishment was administered immediately, with EXTRA swats if the parent felt/agreed that the "appeal" was silly/frivolous. If the parent approved the appeal to move forward, a meeting would be scheduled with the teacher, the principal, the student, and the parent to discuss the matter, and a final determination to be made by the principal (if the parent did not agree with the principal, there was an option to further appeal to the schools' board of directors -- all parents of currently enrolled students). In practice, discipline was never (very very very rarely) appealed, because the school staff members were held to high standards of fairness when it came to administering discipline. I cannot think of a single time that I was unfairly disciplined. I had ALWAYS misbehaved when I was punished (I was never punished for something that I did not do), and the punishment that I received was always fair (not too lenient and not too strict) based upon the circumstances.

Spankings were certainly NOT the only (and usually not the first) type of discipline administered. But, when spankings were administered, they were always given on students' bare bottoms with appropriate implements. In pre-school and kindergarten (4-5.y.o.), naughty boys/girls were put over their teachers' laps (pants & underpants down, or skirt up & panties down) and given swats with a 12-inch school ruler, in front of the class. In the primary grades (6-8.y.o.), the naughty boys/girls were taken into the class coat room (out of view from classmates, but within earshot), where their bare bottoms were similarly spanked OTK with either the 12-inch school ruler or the 18-inch "primary paddle". In the elementary grades (9-11.y.o.), naughty boys/girls were taken into the class coat room, where their bare bottoms were either paddled with the "elementary paddle" or whipped with the "elementary strap", usually bending over the back of a spanking chair with palms flat on the seat of the chair. In the junior high school grades (12-13.y.o.), the naughty boys/girls were paddled or strapped inside their PE locker room by either the boys' or girls' PE coaches respectively, using the "junior paddle" or the "junior strap". Locker room discipline was administered immediately after showering, before even receiving a towel, with the students' wet nude bodies (naughty tween/teen boys' penises often standing at attention as they accepted their punishments) bent over old decommissioned vaulting horses for all their PE classmates to watch (and hopefully learn). In the high school grades (14-17.y.o.), the same locker room discipline was administered, using the "senior paddle" and/or the "senior strap" (the senior straps were old razor strops that severely tanned the bare bottoms of naughty teenagers if necessary -- bringing even 17.y.o. boys and girls to tears and repentance).

I don't have to fantacize about my Christian schooling (ages 4-17) being very strict when rules were broken and/or expectations were not achieved.

Don't get me wrong... my schools (pre-school, kindergarten, primary, elementary, junior high, and high school) and teachers were excellent. The teachers and staff clearly loved the kids and school was always a LOT of FUN, and academically challenging. The school was very serious about helping each child identify his/her personal mix of interests/gifts/talents. The teachers did not have unreasonable expectations. For example, a child who was not as gifted in math/science was NOT expected to achieve beyond his/her potential in these subjects. Every child, however, was expected to achieve within his/her potential. The school did its part to make learning fun/enjoyable, and the students were expected to do their part. Laziness was not tolerated. And, Disobedience, Disrespect, and Dishonesty (the THREE D's) were absolutely not tolerated.

You are describing the Jesuit High School I went to to a tee. In fact, if you under-achieved to their standards, they never hesitated to tell you you would be 'happier' elsewhere. So, I would say they were even stricter.

However, they achieved this level of academic and behavioral achievement without ever resorting to physical punishments. No spanking, swatting, hitting or any physical punishments at all. None, nada, nichts, rien de patat.

They did however hand out detentions and (long) writing/essay assignments like Tictacs. An afternoon of writing a 32 page essay by hand seemed to be just the thing to correct any lack of proper behavior. Not only was the writing itself a heavy chore, the essays had to make sense too. None of that writing 'I am a bad pupil' 100 times. That would have been cheating on the punishments according to the school.

About the only part in your description above that was different was my school making learning 'fun/enjoyable'. There was little of that. It was a 6 year long dreary bore.

But it was all done without resorting to physical punishments.

I am ok with a certain degree of corporal punishment and it was common when I was a kid. But there is a memory that bothers me:

The rooms where corporal punishment was done at my school were in a semi-basement area and a hallway from there went out to the loading dock. One day - it was nearly summer so windows were open - I was in English class and we all heard commotion from down in that area. A kid who was apparently to get a strapping had bolted and run out the loading dock door. He went by, right under our window and we could hear him yelling "I'm not gonna let you hit me." He was screaming, like totally enraged. Two or three of the school's security officers, big intimidating guys, were coming after him, telling him to "get back in here" "you're just making it worse on yourself." The kid was like "no, you're gonna hit me." and they responded "yeah, we're gonna hit you, Scott. Don't make it worse." So, they suddenly ran after him and he shot off into traffic and very nearly got hit by a car. Loud screeching tires. Our teacher screamed.

Whatever he had done to get his beating (and that kid was a dickhead and a bully), I don't think it was worth chasing him into traffic and nearly getting him killed. Once they saw he was completely coming unhinged, they needed to approach it differently and talk him through it. The incident changed the process of corporal punishment there, but they still did the same punishment.

Sounds great and i often think about being disciplined in front of a class of students, either my own regular classmates or sometimes taken to a younger class so they see what happens to older pupils when they cross the line

I usually get the strap, the teacher administering the punishment positions me so i'm facing the class and i'm immediately bright red with embarassment but then i also have to try to not start to cry from the blistering pain of the strap on my poor hands xxx

I am ok with a certain degree of corporal punishment and it was common when I was a kid. But there is a memory that bothers me:

The rooms where corporal punishment was done at my school were in a semi-basement area and a hallway from there went out to the loading dock. One day - it was nearly summer so windows were open - I was in English class and we all heard commotion from down in that area. A kid who was apparently to get a strapping had bolted and run out the loading dock door. He went by, right under our window and we could hear him yelling "I'm not gonna let you hit me." He was screaming, like totally enraged. Two or three of the school's security officers, big intimidating guys, were coming after him, telling him to "get back in here" "you're just making it worse on yourself." The kid was like "no, you're gonna hit me." and they responded "yeah, we're gonna hit you, Scott. Don't make it worse." So, they suddenly ran after him and he shot off into traffic and very nearly got hit by a car. Loud screeching tires. Our teacher screamed.

I very much have a spanking fetish and always have. I love the idea of role playing. My favorite videos are the realistic style spanking videos. That being said I’m totally against that those role playing scenarios being anyone’s reality.

Spanking was used in the schools i attended kindergarten through 8th grade. If the teacher was to do it you were kept after school and it was done in the empty classroom with the door locked. You were made to undress to your underwear, they were pulled down for the spanking. There was also the principals office where spankings were administered. They at least drove you home afterwards with your red bottom.

Spanking was used in the schools i attended kindergarten through 8th grade. If the teacher was to do it you were kept after school and it was done in the empty classroom with the door locked. You were made to undress to your underwear, they were pulled down for the spanking.

Empty classroom? Locked doors? Sounds like a setup that was (purposefully?) made to facilitate misuse ...

@agracier No. It was done after school with the classroom door locked for privacy. To be clear school had ended for the day and the classroom was empty

@agracier No. It was done after school with the classroom door locked for privacy. To be clear school had ended for the day and the classroom was empty

Putting an adult in a locked room with a partially clothed child and no observer - or witnesses- is a perfect storm for excessive physical or sexual abuse.

Putting an adult in a locked room with a partially clothed child and no observer - or witnesses- is a perfect storm for excessive physical or sexual abuse.

Not that different from when priests gave 'counselling' or heard confessions in their private rooms. That was how it was sometimes done in my Belgian Jesuit High School. Not all students were called to confession in a priests living quarters, but some were and they were the butt of jokes I didn't really understand.

I had to see 'Le Souffle au Coeur' by Louis Malle before I caught the full drift.

And now that i think about it, spanking an undressed pupil in a locked room gives even more scope to onerous and illegal misuse ...

No. It was done after school with the classroom door locked for privacy. To be clear school had ended for the day and the classroom was empty

C'mon. If that situation doesn't ring some alarm bells then people were being very naïve back then.

Locked for privacy? Yeah sure. No one would ever take advantage.