Colon Tubes -- How to Use ??

I have just read this thread from start to finish

thank you one and all for some good tips and advice

I have ordered a Tube, I should have it some time this week

Rusty--I hope you enjoy it. I know that I do. If you have further questions, please write.

hankb

This is a huge thread and so I am likely to repeat some of the wise advice already given.

My experience with colon tubes began many years ago. You need to give yourself many sessions to really get a good feel for how the tube is advancing or not advancing in many cases. The size of the tube is important. Too small in diameter and it will bend back over on itself and not advance deeper into the colon. Too big and it might be difficult to navigate the first set of bends in the lower colon. A good place to start is a 34 fr tube maybe about a half inch in diameter.

As others have said, go slow and don't keep pushing if you feel pressure and then it begins to hurt. Withdraw a bit and try again. Some days I can advance my tube a full 30 inches and some days only about 12 inches. Just do what your body will allow you to do and you should be fine.

I received my silicone tube earlier this week, wow what a thing of beauty, but it is to soft, I have tried and tried but it just keeps snaking around, having lots of fun trying but it is frustrating, I have to go over seas for a week so I will be ordering a new stiffer model when I get home, or does any body know away to stiffen the silicone?

it is a 63fr 36", firmness 18 mildly firm with a 1/4 inch bore

Rusty-- You need to get a four quart bag and then to do three things:

First, get some weed-whacker string and put 4 or six lengths in it by putting a piece of wire or something in from the output end all of the way to the input end. Form a loop, and then pull the strings up to the hole and unhook the wire. Trim the string at the input end so that you can get your coupler in, but no shorter than that. This will stiffen it up, but you may have to experiment with how many strings you need. I have six in mine.

Second, you need to put a nozzle or the tube into yourself and run in perhaps 1-1/2 qt of water to inflate your colon, particularly the sigmoid bend. You may have to experiment to find out how much water is necessary, but this is a place to start.

Third, lube your hole and push your tube in gently. If it will not go in easily, you need to move it in and out, slowly advancing it until it is all in. If you run into a barrier, you may need to put in more water, or you may need to work it in and out some more until it goes past the problem area. You probably will feel it in your colon as it goes in. Remember, if you try to force it, it probably will double back on itself and you will not get the results you want. I have had it double back and come out of my anus while I was pushing the rest of it in, or it has sort of tied itself in knots in the rectum, so be aware of what it is doing and do not be afraid to pull it most or all of the way out and start over.

If you have troubles, write again or send a personal message. It took me a while to figure it out and I still have troubles sometimes, but do not give up because it can be a source of pleasure and a really cleansing enema.

hankb

@ Hankb

wow firstly thank you for taking the time to give such a descriptive solution.

I am just worried the plastic cord is

A: sharp

B: will become loose with the enema solution i.e.: Glycerine, ivory soap, and end up in my colon.

But thank you again I will have to do some testing first

Rusty--I have not had those problems. If you use 4 or 6 lengths, the string is tight enough inside of the tube that it takes a bit of effort to move it. If your tube is larger than mine, that might not be the case, but pull some in and see how it holds. Since the loop of the string is at the tip of the tube, it will not have a sharp end to come out, but my experience has been that the string is always inside of the tube, and any sharpness it might have is of no consequence. You might pull some string loops in from the supply end to the tip and just try flexing it in your hands to see how it behaves.

hankb

I have become a regular colon tube enthusiast. Mine is 34 fr and only 25 inches long. I have use a leather punch and put 6 or seven small holes in the sides of the tip. The tip is a plastic plug just slightly wider than the tube. Sometimes I will squirt 50 cc of coconut oil up inside first, followed by 150 cc of enema solution. I like experimenting with various positions and twists to see if anything helps it along in reaching full insertion. The first foot is easy for me. I like using the jelly type lubricant that lets it glide through the sphincter grommet easier. The thing that seems to really work is a hot bath and warm enema at the same time with a salt or Epsom salt with soda solution. If your colon has spasm of any kind, it will resist the advancing treatment tube. I have more failures at full insertion that all the way in squirts. I like trying to locate the advancing tip with my finger tips. Look at some colon ex-rays to get an idea as to how things might be laid out inside. One person claims to have put a soft candle a ways up inside and let it get hard again. Then when he took it out he could see exactly how things were laid out in there. I want to, but have not tried that one yet.

My experience has been to insert the lubricated colon tube as far as comfortable, release the clamp to allow the water to flow, then keep inserting the tube.

I've found that the smaller the colon tube, the harder it is to insert. For me, a tube just a bit larger (thicker) than a pencil can be inserted before starting the water. When trying to use the thinner tubes I have to insert using the flow of the water, and they still will "turn". That said, colon tube enemas are worth the effort. Love the feeling of the 36" tube in my bottom!

@ Hankb I did try your method and I did have some success, but it was still hit and miss, more miss so what I have done, I read another post at on

http://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;msg=678239

so I bought some aquarium safe 100% silicone, squirted it into some soapy water then formed it around my tube, I made a nice size bulb at the tip, then formed the silicone down a further 12inches, left it to dry for 24 hrs Then boom first time success, I still have not gone the full 36 inches, my choice but planning to real soon but thanks once again Hank

While inserting a colon tube, I advise you to have a flow meter that spins while the solution is flowing up your rectum. As u snake your colon tube, the flow meter will stop turning when the tube kinks. That way u can make adjustments by pulling the tube back a little.

The amount of liquid supported during an enema is very interpersonal variable. Repletion of feces, constitution of the colon, and age are main factors to determine if the received liquid is excessive or not. Surpass the maximum tolerated amount is enter in risk of the severe intestinal rupture.

Over the years I've found that with the longer colon tubes, the best way is to go slow, us ALOT of lubricant, and allow a little of the enema solution in at intervals as you slowly insert the colon tube. Go slow as to not cause damage or injury, and you should be just fine!!!

I've tried colon tubes several times without much success. Can't seem to get much of it in and always have a problem with leakage. Heard a few times it's much better if you have a partner inserting. Any volunteers? 😁

I have great difficulty self-inserting a colon tube. But, when inserting one into my wife, I can do it with almost no trouble. (She is NOT a klysmo., but knows that enemas work for her on her bad IBS). I can inject the water much higher into her descending colon and not give her that uncontrollable urge to expel.

I just had a really REALLY great time with a colon tube. I don't usually use this item but tonight I felt like an extended play time in addition to the enemas. I took several (maybe 4 or 5) enemas with the tube which is a 20 inch F26. In times past trying to get this inserted I think that it was kinked up inside me instead for fully inserted, but, tonight I believe that I got it fully inserted every time. I first took a 2 quart SSE (3H) with the douche bulb syringe nozzle before going to the colon tube. I let some water in after first inserting the tube and kept slowly working it in and out and adding more water as I advanced it further up into me. I could feel it way up inside my belly and the enema itself was so easy to take. No problems with cramping in the lower rectum or rectum/descending colon juncture. I just felt the enema flowing in way up inside me with no urges to expel. Also, during one of the enemas I took 3-1/2 quarts very comfortably which is about a full quart more than usual. After the colon tube enemas I took another 3 or 4 with the douche nozzle. All in all, a very fun time.

I will often use the colon tube when I take a coffee enema. In this instance, I've already had a cleansing enema, probably without soap. The soap can trigger late onset peristalsis which is counterproductive to retaining the coffee for any length of time.

Not only do I lube my colon tube, I also lube my anus with a liberal amount. I also inject some water soluble lube with a small plunger style syringe. This allows for easy insertion of the colon tube until I hit one of those bends. At that point, I move the colon tube to and fro and side to side. Sometimes a little twisting of the tube helps to advance it.

At that point, I let some solution begin to flow. I try a small amount at first, and then let it flow with the bag hung low or the tube pinched. This is usually sufficient to allow for advancement of the tube. With the coffee enema, I can let it ebb and flow at will. I usually get the tube advanced to the connector and leave it in place. The solution may flow until empty, or back flow if I'm crampy. It makes retention much easier and allows for the recommended 15-20 minute time frame.

I will often use a disposable bag for coffee enemas. Backflow doesn't matter if it's going to be discarded. If I get 1-2 quarts injected, I can also usually hold it without backflow if I'm cleansed beforehand. These are very relaxing and beneficial to me. BTW, I will often take a smaller cold enema after the coffee has been expelled. I've read this will help the colon tissue to contract a bit quicker.

Enemagal, give the tube a try when you're up to it. I think you, and all others, may find they're very useful at times. I still prefer those vintage bulbous nozzles from my childhood.

Mods, change to a better topic thread if you need to and just let me know where you put it. Apologies if this approximate identical post posted twice - (save the one with the French size listed). Deletion is giving me some sort of technical glitch.

I have a 36" beautiful dark blue colon tube from (I think) SiliconeNozzles, about 0.72" diameter (I believe 54Fr), with a roughly 1/16-1/8" central bore size (trying to remember sizes without measuring- correct me as needed). I can only get it in about 10" at most even with 3.5 quarts of saline in me yesterday. Part of the standard problem is that there's several lube shooters of lube up in my rectum plus lube on the colon tube as well, so it's very slippery and keeps coming out. Is there an appliance or clamp or workaround to hold the colon tube despite lube on it in my rectum while I keep working on maneuvering the tube farther up my colon? More shortly,

Thanks,

Eric

Dick

Eric

Let me suggest a couple of things: I know of no clamp that can assist you. Don't have both hands lubed up, that will help.

First, the tube bore won't be any smaller than 7/32" but let's assume that it is a 54Fr tube. And at the smaller tube sizes, the softer tubes can be a bit floppy.

Without practice, there is such a thing as too much lubrication (and too much water). Granted, it helps a lot to be reasonably well lubricated and have some amount of water /solution within. But it can also be counter productive. I have larger tubes (75Fr and 122Fr) that will slide through, but I can also thread my 72-inch 36Fr tube through most times if I just want deep solution and not a lot of tube resistance. They all slide rather nicely with about 1-liter held internally.

Let me suggest the following:

A weak lube/water mix (I use j-lube, only 1/2 tsp/per quart/liter, but you can mix any any dilute lube combination to accomplish this). It only takes about a quart and no more than two. Do a quick cleanse enema with about a quart of lube solution. Anything that is in your sigmoid and descending colon will probably come out pretty quickly (I think it feels pretty wicked when the clumps are lubricated like that and speed through the lower colon and out). What you don't want to happen is have your lower colon so "stimulated" that the muscles are too closed down. And you want the residual lubricant to be there to help the tube slide through.

You say you can only get about 10 inches in before it wants to slide/push out? It is possible that even with that amount of solution within you and with lubrication that the sphincter at the top of rectum and the first part of the sigmoid is "closed." And that is really the first turn/restriction you've got to navigate and the tube will try to fold at this point. I know that at about 7-8 inches, I begin to navigate that "turn".

For me, it sometimes helps to "aim" the tube toward the middle of the back to start before trying to push it straight through my central core. If I feel resistance, I back off the pressure. Once the tip of the tube finds the proper location it will usually begin to slide through and open that set of muscles and it will slide in very easily. This is where having too much water is a hinderance because at that volume, there is likely about 15-20 inches of water pressure being applied by your colon muscles against the water and holding it while allowing the muscles to relax is not an easy thing to do. I know there is this much pressure when I'm full because there is a column of water about 15-20 inches above the highest point of water inside of me when the bag empties.

So let's say you've done the 1-quart purge that I've recommended. There may be a little liquid left and that's okay. You just want to have a relatively clear path into your colon. Lube the end of the tube and you anus. Don't lube the whole tube until you really get the hang of this.

Slip the tube in, and insert until you get to that first resistance point. It should allow the tip to slip through with some initial resistance. Don't force it if it refuses to go through. Back off the pressure slightly and maybe give the tube a slight twist and a very small amount of water. This is usually where the tube will slide in to the next point. From here on, it is going to be a learning experience if you aren't accustomed to sliding a tube deep inside you.

I have a "long" sigmoid colon. I read it described as being one of two types; long or short. Mine is long and when the tube passes into the sigmoid it goes a long ways up my abdomen before turning back down and toward my left side. If you were watching my abdomen while I was laying on my back you could see the tip passing under my skin. it turns back down for a distance before entering the descending colon. Usually this turn in the sigmoid doesn't present a great challenge for me but there can be resistance. If the muscles are trying to push the tube out, again back off the pressure slightly so that the wavelike motion can pass by the end of the tube. I find that the muscles will relax and the resistance to the tube passing immediately drops for the next stage of insertion.

I can feel the tube turn into the descending colon and if I prod my left side I can feel the tube passing up the descending colon. From here it will continue upward. The sensation is one of sliding through the sigmoid, less of a sensation in the descending colon until it reaches the next sharp turn; the splenic flexure. For me, at approximately 28 inches in, the tip of the tube is entering the region of the splenic flexure. The tube has to make a greater than 90 degree turn. Again, if you get resistance, don't force it. The further the tube gets in, the less the body's capacity to expel its total length quickly. The muscles have to relax to allow the tube to pass. If you get the tube to pass the splenic flexure, the tube should progress across the abdomen in the transverse colon. Again, a little water addition at these turns can help. If the muscles don't want to allow it to pass, don't force it because you've already got the tube pretty far in, For me, that path is back "down" towards my navel and towards the "top" of my sigmoid colon before bending back upward towards my right side and disappearing under my liver. It is a very weird feeling to having tubing passing adjacently and going in different directions. But for me, that occurs only with tubes longer than 40 inches.

All my tubes have retention balls except the 36Fr, so if I can get the ball into my rectum, there is less need to hold the tube in place. But there are times when I can only get any tube up to splenic flexure and no further so I have to hold the tube while filling. With a deep fill, I will turn onto my right side and feel the solution flow across my transverse colon into the ascending colon. With my longer tubes, I can try to thread the tube across my abdomen in the transverse colon and try to make the turn past the hepatic flexure to fill from the ascending colon back towards the rectum.

Let me also say that sometimes it is hard to get the tube in after the first maximum filling and subsequent fillings and it usually that point at about 8-10 inches that is tough to get through. A little liquid will generally allow the tube to pass, but not always.

Enema runner,

That's a lot to digest, so many thanks and I'll start figuring how you use your advice tomorrow as my sphincter is a bit sore now. Putting in my 54Fr colon tube as far as it will go is so beautifully smooth and even that it almost doesn't bother my sphincter at all. It's almost soothing. Many thanks for such detailed advice. I love Zity people.

Eric

Dick

Tk î am about to buy à colontube , î was in néed of information How to use propre l'y tk

optimal said

Tk î am about to buy à colontube , î was in néed of information How to use propre l'y tk

How about reading this thread you just posted in!

https://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=113

Also read this thread:

https://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=60482

My first colon tube came today in the mail. In the past I have used a bag with a douche pipe. Will go on my maiden voyage in the morning. Am so excited to try it.

Have read the helpful tips on here - thanks to all who have contributed! Will repost back with results tomorrow pm.

I currently have two colon tubes that I purchased from siliconenozzles.com . Great site with creative, well made products for the klismaphile. I've had smaller rubber tubes in the past but I will never go back as the quality of silicone tubes is great and I am now a fan of a larger length and diameter.

My first purchase was a 39 inch 90 FR #18 mildly firm translucent tube that I love. It has ridges along the whole surface and feels fabulous going in as well as in place. I can get it all the way in by just taking my time, backing out if I need to occasionally. Slow and steady wins the race. It has a flanged end to hold it in place but frankly could be a bit beefier. I use a 1 gallon bag and a 2qt bag connected together by a T connector and the extra depth allows 1.5 gallons no problem.

So I recently got a 54" 63 FR 18 mildly firm silicone tube and I thought I wanted a greater length, which I do but the smaller diameter is somewhat of a problem for me. I start the flow slowly and I insert really slow and make sure that I get a good constant flow that doesn't stop when inserting. I have gotten it fully in although it seems to be kinking and doubling up on itself as when I take it out it seems to be doubled over. I use a water/olive oil/yogurt solution that works well and lets me view the flow through a clear tube as it goes in.

Any suggestions for preventing it from doubling up? Am I being too ambitious for wanting 54 inches?

My only solution so far is to buy a 54 inch tube with a 90 or 103 FR that they have as I also prefer the greater thickness. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome!

Tour via Colon Tube

165 pounds 5 foot 9 inches, me: 1.5 quart filtered water fill and wash day before. 1 quart coffee warm up flush, prior to this 1.5 quart coffee fill with 20 inch 9/16 diameter tube tour discovery at noon Mid March. Heavy waste eliminated and all of this 1.5 quart coffee fill eased in and resting, the tube started up. After having taken both of these 2 late morning fills from just inside of 2-3 inches of anus, I wanted to let this coffee do the work I needed,,, this modest 101 Fahrenheit fill was comfortable inside me and I had just closed my eyes. My right hand rocked the tip with a couple slow dips and then slid it in another 8 inches. That is half the total length of the smooth 20 inch X 9/16 explorer. My left finger tips traced its presents up my left side as I relaxed flat on my back. The tip was near where my pelvic bone turned back, starting its arc toward my back. Synchronizing both hands, I slowly encouraged it to reach on up into my splenic flexure. Mid way between pelvic bone and left side of ribs, the colon turns and dips into my transverse colon toward the belly button. My finger tips coax it into this turn, as I repeatedly feel for it all along its route inside me, insuring it has not and will not kink, but bounce onward into the curve and also recover from its dip, climbing back up over my belly button to rest at least an inch past its right side. This final 10 inch course took half an hour and was very satisfying. There was material there from last meal the day before, in this transverse over the top colonic tour I sought. I believe that carries a natural lubricant which accommodates its ardent arrival. The little finger and index finger of my left hand are educated at learning the colon tube’s presents, feeling, searching, verifying and encouraging its advancement underneath them. They never tire of tracing and retracing its reaches inside me.

As another friend has already pointed out, its thickness helps reveal its presents.

It is of semi-soft silicone, 1/16 wall with natural curve and Delrin plastic end plug. It has a 9 hole radial spray fixed in it with a leather punch, back an inch from the end plug. I purchased it from a milking machine parts supply, but can no longer find it on the internet. If you find tubing like this, please give me a personal, heads up, poke. OK?

I'd love to try one of these for a “ Good cleanout ” , as I bought a PEZZER off Amazon, but a WTF moment once I tried it. Kinks.

Would like to find a fr18+ colon tube supplier site if someone here has a link..

Would like to find a fr18+ colon tube supplier site if someone here has a link..

Amazon also has them at 18 French.

https://www.amazon.com/colon-tubes-enemas/s?k=colon+tubes+for+enemas

I believe that an of the red tubes you buy today are too stiff. Nothing like a old 32F Davol tube

@drfistherass

Recently, I bought a new Bard/Rochester Fr 32 colon tube (Number 8007420, about $25) from an on-line site. The ‘firmness’ of the tube is very close to the vintage Davol tubes. (Those were the days. The nurses back then KNEW how to give enemas! No Fleets!)

My new tube goes in well and really gets the enema water in up high for a great poo.

I bought a 20 inch colon tube from optimal health network, I lubricate it with Vaseline and then slowly insert it the entire length into my rectum. Just make sure to expel some water when inserting the tube so it will insert fully.