5 or 6 Quart bag

I have used a 5 quart Klystra Olympic bag for a long time but I need a new one. It is a closed-top black rubber bag. Klystra is now out of business and after several long searches, I can find nothing anywhere like it.

Some have suggested a 5 Gallon camping shower bag, but I am sure my shower rod would never hold it, besides that's just way too big. Can anyone help me find a replacement?

Much appreciated.

Get some screws and a screwdriver, install a strong hook into the wall or ceiling studs and presto.

BTW, who said you have to fill the five gallon bag to capacity?????

Klystra's five-quart bag was included in my many purchases of products over the years from Klystra. I used it occasionally and once was able to take the entire five quarts minus a few remaining ounces. Ouch! A few years ago, I gave all of my rarely used surplus enema equipment to an RN friend I used to give enemas to. Enough of these items were likely to have been produced to turn up some day on eBay.

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You might want to try a "Y" fitting for your enema hoses, so that you can couple 2 3-Qt bags together.

Just make sure your valve is a couple of feet at least after the "Y" and can stop all that water. That way if you can't take the full 6-Qt, you can stop it, and be sure both bags are at the same height.

Hang the two bags as close together as reasonably possible so they don't alternate.

My 4 quart rubber bag does a great job for everything I need as I rarely go over 4. My only other larger one is an old JBL which is about 5-6 q.

Eric

I also am a closed top bag fan, in fact I have open top bags have never got more than a few uses.

Are you looking for a new bag or a way to hang the one you have. This first post is written in a vague way. Finding another Klystra bag may be difficult finding a way to hang your bag should be pretty easy.

How on earth dies one train themselves to take a and hold 5 or 6 quart bag. Surely that can't be good for you. I think I would prob explode internally.

Seeking Health is in the final stages of closing out their enema equipment and the prices are amazingly low. They apparently have sold out of their full kits and just have bags left (no hoses or nozzles). You can get a 4 quart silicone bag for just 10.95. I have this bag with the full kit. I have been using it now for several years and it is still in perfect condition.

Here is the link:

https://www.seekinghealth.com/purenema-silicone-bag

I know you are looking for a larger bag, but you could buy a couple of these and use them together- Y valve or just finish with one and switch to the second one.

I am on Optimal Health's email list and I just got an email saying they have a price reduction on their 5 quart silicone enema kit. I have always felt their prices were very high compared to other suppliers but they do carry high quality stuff. The kit costs $119.56.

Here is the link:

https://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/Home-Enema-Kit-Complete-Colon-Cleanse-s/1026.htm#products

You can't go wrong with Optimal Health. Yes, the prices are high, but they are totally ethical and their shipment time is amazing.

They are a top notch company that I depend on. I've ordered bags, hoses, Higginson's, many nozzles and have never been disappointed.

In response to ProV1:

Thank you for the advice below about Seeking Health selling 4-quart enema bags for $10.95.. I bought two of the 4-qrt bags.

I just got them but can't try them out tonight. However, I did notice another comment on Zity that the flow from these bags is very slow. So I tested one.

4 Quarts flows out very slow, about 4 min 57 secs (297 seconds.) This is slow. My regular home-made rig allows 4 quarts to run out in 1 min 23 secs (about 83 seconds.) That's about 3.6 times slower. I was just running these into the bathtub using my regular hose and nozzle. The flow would be slower during an enema, since my body's back pressure would slow down the flow.

If a slow flow is OK with you, then these bags are fine. And cheap. If still available.

https://www.seekinghealth.com/purenema-silicone-bag

BTW: Optimal Health Network is selling their 5-quart silicone enema bag for $69.99 at this time.

This is just the bag alone.

They also have a kit with a Higginson Syringe & nozzles for $125.85.

https://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/5-Quart-Silicone-Classic-Fountain-Enema-Bag-p/204.htm

I don't think anybody is still selling 6-quart enema bags, cans or jugs.

A few years ago, someone was selling a very nice 6-quart glass jug. But they stopped. Liability reasons, no doubt.

In response to ProV1:

Thank you for the advice below about Seeking Health selling 4-quart enema bags for $10.95.. I bought two of the 4-qrt bags.

I just got them but can't try them out tonight. However, I did notice another comment on Zity that the flow from these bags is very slow. So I tested one.

https://www.seekinghealth.com/purenema-silicone-bag

Yes this issue has come up before about the slow flow rate. One way to increase the flow rate is to remove the barb that fits into the bottom of the bag and replace it with a wider diameter barb. You can find these barbs at any type of hardware store. I seem to remember one should be careful removing and replacing the barbs because you could tear the silicone bag. You may also want to go with a larger diameter hose that matches the diameter of the barb.

One of the things I discovered with my Seeking Health 4 quart silicone bag was that there appeared to be some silicone residue inside the barb at the bottom of the bag which caused a decreased flow rate. I simply took an Exacto knife and with a circular motion removed the silicone. The flow rate improved dramatically, however, it is still slower than my Klystra bag.

Frankly, I've found the slower flow rate has made the enema more comfortable. However, when I'm ready to indulge in a faster flow, I reach for the old trusty black rubber Klystra bag.

Have fun and play safe!

Deb

Just turned in an order for some of the 4qt bags from Seeking Health. Thanks for pointing out they were closing out on them.

Dan

My order from Seeking Health was turned in Monday, and received Friday by Fed Ex. Good service.

Dan

Seems like since most of us on this forum own more than one bag anyway, you should be able to use some "Y" adapters and shorter lengths of tubing and figure something out.

One suggestion would be to back off a notch on your volume target, and connect two 2-quart bags to a common hose with short lengths of the same hose and a "tee". The name says it clearly: the "tee" is a hard plastic fitting in the form of a T. Plastic fittings, including "tees", are readily available for use with flexible tubing in a range of sizes from about 1/8"to 5/8" (inside diameter of tubing). The national home improvement centers and most hardware stores of any appreciable size should have an array of them in stock, and Internet suppliers should be easy to find. I also suggest replacing the hose that comes with most bags with amber latex "surgical tubing". Hose of this kind seems to have been standard equipment on the high-end bags of the past. Whereas the original hoses supplied nowadays are usually kink-prone soft plastic (the awful white ridged stuff), amber latex tubing is very supple and kink-resistant. You'd be looking for an inside diameter of about 1/4", not more than 5/16", to fit inside most clamps. Surgical tubing is not as easily found in local retail outlets as the fittings, but there are suppliers that are not hard to find, using -- what else? -- Google. My "ex" and I actually retrofitted her equipment with over 8 feet of this kind of tubing, because the door hook used to hang the bag was a good distance from the bed, where she'd administer. Worked like a charm.

You're concerned about the weight-carrying capacity of your shower rod. Warm water weighs about 8.3 pounds per gallon, so with two 2-quart bags full -- that's one gallon, total -- you'd have no more than ten pounds to support, equipment included. Still, to be safe on the safe side, not having to worry about the rod collapsing in the middle, hang your bag (or bags) near whichever end is more convenient. The closer to a mounting bracket, the more rigid the rod becomes.

Hope this helps, and if I can help you further, feel free to contact me.

How on earth does one train themselves to take a and hold 5 or 6 quart bag? Surely that can't be good for you. I think I would prob explode internally.

It obviously depends on what you're looking for as well as your own anatomy and physiology. I'm about 6 feet tall and ~190 lbs, and for decades I took 2.5 quart enemas and enjoyed them. When I found Zity 4 years ago, I did a lot of reading about volumes and solutions and gradually over several months worked up from 2.5 quarts to 4-4.5 quarts which I usually use now, with absolutely no pain and no more than my usual level of cramping with some solutions. One single time I took 5 quarts by taking a full 2.5 quart bag twice in a row, without originally intending to fill that much. I just turned on the second bag and then relaxed, expecting to do perhaps 4-4.5 q total. But I dozed off a bit and at the end I looked up to see the second empty bag, so I'd actually taken all 5 quarts. It was extremely full and distended, of course, but fortunately I really enjoy those sensations, and had no pain of any kind. If I had, I'd have stopped right away. I held onto it for about 10-15 minutes until it stimulated an orgasm, and then released it with no problem.

Though I presume I could fill even somewhat more, I probably won't go that high again just to minimize risk, since I find 4-4.5 q so satisfying and arousing. Whatever you do with yourself, play safe and stop if you run into anything frankly painful. This is only pleasant and fun if no complications occur.

Eric

I'm with you @aliciad.

I wonder how significant body size is with respect to individual enema capacity. I'm fairly short for a male (5'6"), and so far I've only managed to take ~3 quarts max. Do other people my height or smaller take exceptionally large volume enemas?

Knoxgeek,

Body size doesn't seem to have much to do with how much a guy can hold. I've given some smaller guys 5qts, and some larger guys only could barely take 2. How often the person takes Enemas could also make a bit of difference, as well as what is in it.

Dan

Thanks, Dan. I guess I'll take that as encouragement to keep trying with that 4 quart bag... 😉

The 5 gal sunshowers work awesome it comes in 2.5 gal also just fill as much as you want

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Get a 5 qt bag and a large fast-flowing connector from Optimal Health Network. After starting an enema just get up in a few seconds and empty a 16 oz bottle filled with water or anything you'd like into the bag. That would effortlessly make a nifty 6 qt enema since the bag holds about 5.5 qt. If you add a quart, it would make about 6.5 qt enema, with effort. I wouldn't go beyond that.

Knoxgeek,

Body size doesn't seem to have much to do with how much a guy can hold. I've given some smaller guys 5qts, and some larger guys only could barely take 2. How often the person takes Enemas could also make a bit of difference, as well as what is in it.

Dan

@ilffer I can say this rings true for me, as I'm 5'5" with a stocky but athletic build, and by my late 20s I had no problem working my way up to large volume fills. I regularly take 4 quarts, my largest was probably 4.5, but my gallon bag also holds more than described when filled right to the top. Having a smaller frame doesn't seem to have stopped me from building up my capacity at all. My belly does stick out a lot with that kind of volume inside and it does look rather enormous on me as a smaller guy, but it's a sensation I love. This isn't something that has to keep you from working your way up to whatever volume feels best!

You have most likely purchased an appropriate bag by now, however, you can purchase an OHN 5qt all silicone bag with a wide mouth and double eyelets for $ 50. when on sale which is often. Mind you it's just the bag but what a bargain. I bought one several months ago and just bought another ( I have enema parties on occasion 😃 Years back I bought a 6qt klystra bag -pricy- which I still have but it's not as easy to use as the new OHN bag. My final fill of my weekend series is typically 4+ so this bag works quite well for that purpose. It's really well made from what I see.

When speaking of a persons holding qty, it really depends on the person. I've been taking 3 qt enemas since 16, and 4 qt enemas since around 50 (now 77). I can go beyond 4 but it then creeps thru my ileocecal; eventually I'm burping green tea when that happens so I stick to 4+ a little as my max. My partner Barb can do 4qts but not easily. Over the years I've known quite a few ladies into enemas, many were RN's. I'd say for the most part they took between 3 & 4 qt enemas when doing a series. Seldom more then 3 if doing a single.