Did parents, teachers and other adults derive sexual pleasure from spanking?

My girlfriend told me her stepmother sometimes stripped to her underwear when she spanked her, while she had to undress completely. On that occasions, she was clearly aroused. Wet spot in her panties, erect nipples, etc. She also grabbed her by the hips or shoulders and even fondled her body in a relatively subtle way. She did the same when spanking me, except for the stripping to her underwear part, but there were times when she spanked me in short shorts and a sports bra.

I've heard rumours that some of them did, but I make it a golden rule not to listen to rumours unless it's a Fleetwood Mac album. I suspect that the real reason spanking was abolished in schools was because they found out masochistic pupils were enjoying being on the receiving end when they "weren't supposed to". What do you folks think about that?

I suspect that the real reason spanking was abolished in schools was because they found out masochistic pupils were enjoying being on the receiving end when they "weren't supposed to". What do you folks think about that?

I'll go with abusive teachers getting their jollies from being allowed to dole out spankings according to their personal whims, especially bare buttocks or naked spankings. These kind of situations can often easily evolve into outright sexual abuse.

I doubt that the concept of masochistic pupils enjoying a spanking was even thought to exist.

I believe that they must have at lest enjoyed what they were doing or would not have spanked so many so often

Perhaps the enjoyment was more of dominance, control, or sadistic rush than sexual when spanking boys. Especially when a female teacher or frustrated nun spanked either a boy or a girl. Questionable whether there may have been a bit of sexual element if male teachers spanked middle or high school girls.

"I doubt that the concept of masochistic pupils enjoying a spanking was even thought to exist"

Considering I was in primary school when I first felt the urge to be smacked by a girl and it was at least a decade before I even knew there were such words as "masochist" or "fetish", then I would say the authorities knew perfectly well such a concept existed. The concept of masochism is so old it's even more than a century older than the guy it was named after (Leopold von Sacher-Masoch, born 1836). Proof: the Genevan philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau (born 1712) was known to have enjoyed being spanked by women when he was about 10. From that I would say the powers-that-be had a pretty good idea what was going on with spanked pupils in school in the 1960s and 70s.

I've noticed whenever I mention this particular topic, people always focus on the sadistic teachers more than the masochistic pupils. Why do you think that is, agracier?

I've noticed whenever I mention this particular topic, people always focus on the sadistic teachers more than the masochistic pupils. Why do you think that is, agracier?

Because I for one have never encountered any pupils who were like that. It was an axiomatic assumption, certainly at that age, that pain is not pleasurable and therefore one does not go looking for it.

I've known stupid, shortsighted kids who did things that would get them punished, but then again they always tried getting out of being punished by coming up with all kinds of (lame, pathetic) excuses. That would therefore not be the definition of a masochist.

Besides, in the schools I went to, punishments consisted of writing essays, pages long in cursive, that moreover had to make some sort of logical sense. Not any of that 100x writing 'I am a bad boy' sort of nonsense, but actual 16 page long handwritten essays on a subject.

So how did I start having masochistic urges to be smacked by girls when I was in primary school? I guess it brings me back to another comment I posted on this site where one is either born like that or one is not. This is proof that I was.

So how did I start having masochistic urges to be smacked by girls when I was in primary school? I guess it brings me back to another comment I posted on this site where one is either born like that or one is not. This is proof that I was.

I thought we discussing spankings doled out by teachers, parents and other adults.

Fooling around with girls of your age and letting them/getting them to spank you is something different. Perhaps start a thread about that particular subject.

I could also perhaps surmise that letting them spank you is the next best thing to physical contact. If you as a boy are not allowed to touch, kiss or fool around with girls (as is the usual case), then having them spank you is the next best alternative. And then, who knows, a person might develop a taste for that specific activity.

So maybe we are back at behavioral shaped preferences over innate born traits again.

I also secretly enjoyed being spanked by female teachers at that age, so it wasn't only about girls in my class. Why would I enjoy it when a female teacher smacked my bottom for arriving in class late (because I'd been to the toilet and the bell rang while I still in there)?

I would surmise that some did but most didn't even those that may have had a sexual fascination with spanking just as I would surmise that most people with a medical fetish do not derive sexual pleasure from their actual yearly medical exam. Context, I think, is important.

In my particular case, I have been interested in the concept of disciplinary spanking from a very young age. I was not sexually fascinated with the spankings I received growing up when they were happening. Thoughts about them later was sometimes a different thing. I have given disciplinary spankings and was not in any way aroused by carrying out that duty, although thoughts of the same type of situation might be arousing and adult play reproducing such situations might also.

Like I said context is important.

I would also say that simply because one might find giving a deserved spanking/paddling to a child/student not a disagreeable task, one should not conclude that deriving sexual pleasure from it is a logical, reasonable conclusion.

My parents definitely did

My parents definitely did

@Pbox95 May I ask what observation or experience supports this definitive statement?

"I doubt that the concept of masochistic pupils enjoying a spanking was even thought to exist"

There was a lad in my form at school, that deliberately courted punishment in gym lessons, and got erect during getting slippered, much to the annoyance of the games master

I don't think so at least not when I was being spanked by parents. Whether they derived sexual pleasure spanking each other I don't know or care to ask.

I don’t want to believe it was the case. Otherwise it would be devastating for me.

@Andrew_Finklehouse Am I right in saying that Rousseau was not into hard pain but rather into embarrassment?

I’m thinking those nuns I had to deal with in my childhood probably did! Especially a few I remember.

Idk but it’s one of the main reasons I never spanked my kids. Not that I would get any sick pleasure out of it but just the fact it’s so entangled in a sexual fetish of mine. That being said I don’t think most parents enjoyed it but there’s always that small percentage.

Of course, I am responding from own personal experiences and from what I have observed and heard from others. Pointing out I am a parent; I certainly cannot imagine any pleasure from giving our son a spanking. Yes, it was necessary at times and after being administered he knew not to behave inappropriately, and manners are to be present at all times. Concluding he turned out great! Now, about teachers, Oh Yes! There are some mean spirited and miserable teachers who delight in giving spankings to students. I have observed, experienced and even heard it verbalized by a few teachers and fortunately they a small amount. While in the 3rd grade I recall a teacher who would find a reason to give you a spanking and she would not hesitate a moment either. Again, these types of teachers are rare and thankfully are noted and soon terminated. However, in some private and certain religious affiliated schools, spankings are still administered, and the parents are required to sign a release form allowing this type of correction. Believe me, I have "been there!"

As a kid, how would I ever know that the adults spanking me were sexually excited?

I remember laying across my big cousins lap many times as a kid feeling the big bulge in his pants pushing into my tummy so yes very much so even If I didn't know what it was at the time.

@funforus As a kid, how would I ever know that the adults spanking me were sexually excited?

Read the post following your question / the one prior to this ...

Agracier.All my spankings were by a male, who was my father. He used a switch on my bare ass while I was standing. The other person was the school principal, who was a woman. Never felt bulges.

Obviously some people are turned on by it, both givers and receivers. Same for rectal temperature taking, and other butt related things. I’ve never been excited with spanking, but slowly sticking something up a woman’s ass, is gold!

My Aunt Rose did, for sure! As well as genuine punishment spankings there were also her 'fun spankings' which whilst not as painful as her disciplinary ones, always stung plenty and left your buttocks glowing! All her spankings were, as were all my/our spankings, bare bottom ones! For her playful spankings she just used her hand, which always imparted plenty of sting! For genuine punishment spankings she occasionally used her hand, increasing the force and tempo of the slaps with a more energetic and powerful swing of her arm! But more often than not, for disciplinary spankings she used her hairbrush - The Celluloid - on our backsides and that meant 'a real blistering'!

Mom did not to any great extent, as far as I'm aware, derive any sexual gratification and pleasure from my/our spankings! She would sometimes come out with remarks and comments, especially when we were doing corner time, such as, "how our bottoms glowed beautifully after a sound application of the brush"; and "how cute our butt cheeks looked particularly after a conversation with the hairbrush"; and such like! She evidently derived some erotic amusement from our spankings and the state of our bottoms following them but unlike my Aunt was not a committed spanko with an undeniable spanking fetish!

My Father and Uncle Frank did not to my knowledge derive any sexual satisfaction from the spankings and beltings they gave their kids! Though my Uncle Frank enjoyed spanking my Aunt Rose; so whether that predilection extended to disciplining his kids is open to question!

Clearly their were adults who did get sexual gratification from spanking kids and in those days, '50s, '60s and '70s they had the power and authority to do so!

Since the question is about 'sexual pleasure,' I'll omit mention of those who got gratification out of being dominant or were mean spirited or for whom it was an ego stroke.

I don't imagine most parents, teachers or other adults derived pleasure from it. No doubt some did, but I don't think most did. It's important to view it in the context of time (assuming we're talking about 'the olden days'). It was just part of growing up. That's how they were raised, that's how the neighbors raised their kids.

True, spanking is part of some couples' sexual practices (in fact I believe in the UK 'spanking' only refers to sexual activity; 'smacking' refers to punishment. Perhaps someone can confirm this for me). But that doesn't mean the same activity in a different context is processed the same way. A guy may enjoy fingering his gf/wife, but that doesn't mean that a gynecologist enjoys inserting his finger in a woman's vagina in the context of an exam. People often suggest that there's no way healthcare providers don't enjoy some of the more 'intimate' aspects of patient care, but that's not usually the case.

That's not to say no parent enjoys spanking their kid. One person (I can't find his post now) said his gf's aunt would strip to her underwear to spank his gf, who had to be nude. Clearly she enjoyed it. I knew a woman from England who's mom spanked her (in the presence of her dad) on her bare bottom until she was 15. She said she always deserved them and had no problem with how she was disciplined. But she knew her mom enjoyed it. She noted that her parents usually went to bed late in the evening, but after she got a spanking, they'd retire to their room immediately. She also always had to dress in her school uniform for a spanking. So clearly her parents enjoyed it. But as she pointed out, they never did it out of pleasure. There was always a valid reason for it. She was also canned in her school (up until it was prohibited in private schools when she was in their version of high school), and one parent had to show up for it. She said canings were brutal, but she didn't think they were abusive.

I imagine adults enjoying spanking kids was the exception rather than the rule.

My Aunt Rose did, for sure! As well as genuine punishment spankings there were also her 'fun spankings' which whilst not as painful as her disciplinary ones, always stung plenty and left your buttocks glowing! All her spankings were, as were all my/our spankings, bare bottom ones! For her playful spankings she just used her hand, which always imparted plenty of sting! For genuine punishment spankings she occasionally used her hand, increasing the force and tempo of the slaps with a more energetic and powerful swing of her arm! But more often than not, for disciplinary spankings she used her hairbrush - The Celluloid - on our backsides and that meant 'a real blistering'!

Mom did not to any great extent, as far as I'm aware, derive any sexual gratification and pleasure from my/our spankings! She would sometimes come out with remarks and comments, especially when we were doing corner time, such as, "how our bottoms glowed beautifully after a sound application of the brush"; and "how cute our butt cheeks looked particularly after a conversation with the hairbrush"; and such like! She evidently derived some erotic amusement from our spankings and the state of our bottoms following them but unlike my Aunt was not a committed spanko with an undeniable spanking fetish!

Sounds like both of your primary spankers enjoyed spanking your bare bottom. While your mom didn't necessarily get sexual pleasure from it, seems like she still derived some non-sexual gratification. Perhaps she enjoyed asserting control and reminding you who's boss with her cherry wood hairbrush? Clearly she at least enjoyed the sight of your blistered red bottom and the opportunities to tease you about it. If your mom didn't get at least some enjoyment from spanking you, do you think you still would have had the same number of trips over her lap while growing up?

Hi GOFS, I don't think it would have made a lot of difference to be honest! Once my Mom had deemed a spanking was due that was it and my fate was sealed! The overriding objective was punishment and the purpose of the spanking was that it be a painful lesson! AND BOY WAS IT EVER THAT!!!! In a subtle way, regarding my Mother, I think there may have been some slight sexual gratification watching my buttocks turn scarlet; but this was always a side issue and may have even on occasion operated on a subconcious level! It certainly would not have greatly impacted on the number of spankings I received from her! At least that is my belief anyway!