"Classic solutions"

For some reason I started thinking about what the "classic enemas" were. I guess these could be split into "true classics" used before 1940-1950 and "modern classics" since then, but the criteria would be that they are safe, effective, not too hard to make, and safe.

Here's a list of the "true classics" I can think of:

pure water/tap water. The most "classic" ever, been around since antiquity.

Soapsuds. Don't know how old this is, but it's up there. Works well, easy to make, and pretty much all-but-synonymous with "enema"

Glycerin and water. Very effective and time proven

1-2-3 (1 part Epsom salts, 2 parts glycerin, 3 parts water, all by volume). Probably the first "mini-super enema," mentioned in a 1920 article as if it had been around for a while already.

I don't know how long normal saline has been used, but I guess that probably is on the list as well.

Any others on the True Classics list?

Is is armful to mix glycerine and soapsud enemas in one solution (with a basis of warm water of course)?

Is is (h)armful to mix glycerine and soapsud enemas in one solution (with a basis of warm water of course)?

Nope, soap and glycerin is a very effective and safe solution. Mix up a SSE at your usual rate and then add about 7-10% glycerin. Hold it as long as you can and then feel everything come out. You might want a rinse afterwards, as glycerin can continue to work even after you think you've completely expelled the enema (the concentration at which it does varies from person to person).

Milk and molasses would have to be among the ‘classics’. It or similar solutions have been used for centuries. Type ‘lait sucré’ (milk and sugar) into Google and you will get hits in books from the 1700s, when it was used as a cure for intestinal worms.

I've done a ivory soap and warm water enema before. I liked it more than I do the fleets.

Epsom Salt has been around since ancient times as well

Epsom Salt and soapsuds together in the same enema has always done will for me

Submikaela, Fleets are to hard on your colon, don’t use them. Use salt an baking soda, a mild enema soap, or just plan water. If you do a mild soap enema always do a rinse enema with salt an baking soda or plan water after the soap enema.

Submikaela, Fleets are to hard on your colon, don’t use them.

Fleet enemas may be uncomfortable and cause irritation, but so do soapsuds enemas (though probably not quite as significant). Based on what I've read, for most healthy people, Fleet enemas are likely to be safe. The issues seem to be with people who have renal issues or retain the phosphate solution or people who have injuries to the rectal mucosa (where the phosphate solution can cause necrosis of the tissue).

For most cases I prefer soapsuds, but I'll use a Fleet if I have to. Fleet or other packages phosphate enemas definitely don't count as a classic solution, though.

Moliere, I stand by my advice to Submikaela and give you the same advice. I’ve been doing enemas for 60+ years. My Grandmother was my teacher at age 12, who by the way, was an old school RN.

Due to my scared radiation burned rectum, Fleets are way too harsh for me. I usually stick with tap water, but sometimes use soap suds. Also saline, or NaHCO3 are mild for me.

@Rick6981 I am with you ... don't use Fleets.

Their saline enemas are not sodium chloride (salt)... after reading this, http://www.fleetlabs.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Reference-Safety-Information_Fleet-Saline-Enema-1..pdf, why take Feets?

@moliere is probably correct with his stated caveat "most healthy people", but why use them when the bag and tap water work just a well with virtually no down side risk?

Due to my scared radiation burned rectum, Fleets are way too harsh for me. I usually stick with tap water, but sometimes use soap suds. Also saline, or NaHCO3 are mild for me.

I don't have any obvious anatomical pathology like radiation or surgical scarring, and my anus/rectum is extremely sensitive, so I completely agree with jimmy here. I do have a very old diagnosis of IBS from about age 12 on, consisting entirely of periodic intense abdominal pain without obvious constipation or diarrhea. I've had a few noticeable brief twinges recently from stress, but no severe attacks since age 30. Maybe the IBS somehow has made my rectum so sensitive or maybe I just remember the severity of the truly debilitating abdominal pain I used to have and don't want to repeat it. In any event, I stay with pretty mild solutions to avoid irritation and really enjoy the feelings of large fillings and longish retentions instead of multiple enemas at a time. Im usually doing 3.5-4.5 quarts, held for 15-60 minutes, which is extremely enjoyable. Probably my most "intense" solution was 10% glycerin which was tolerable but still too rectally irritating to really enjoy. I went back to 5% and it was fine and pleasant with lots of grumbling to enjoy.

I tried a Fleet last year when my surgeon asked for it before surgery, but it was so irritating that I pushed it out just about as fast as I could run to the commode. For the pre-op I just used two Fleet bottles full of tap water and they worked and felt fine. I guess my favorite enema parts are the nozzle/balloon, filling and retention. I'm very happy with what I can enjoy.

Eric

I stick with either Dr. Bronner's Peppermint or good old Ivory. Whichever I use, I mix a fairly strong solution. In fact, with the Bronner's I can use get a strong taste of the peppermint in my mouth. Does anyone else experience this, I wonder.

@moliere is probably correct with his stated caveat "most healthy people", but why use them when the bag and tap water work just a well with virtually no down side risk?

Moliere, I stand by my advice to Submikaela and give you the same advice. I’ve been doing enemas for 60+ years. My Grandmother was my teacher at age 12, who by the way, was an old school RN.

Personally Fleet's are a last resort for me. Convenient sometimes, but they hurt and don't work very well for me. Perhaps that has something to do with the way my colon is set up, but like you said - a bagfull of something else works better, feels better, and usually is less expensive. Personally I have to say that phosphate enemas scare me some as well - there are many reports of nasty reactions, including kidney damage and necrosis of the rectal mucosa that you usually don't get with other solutions

I wouldn't go so far as to do a blanket "don't use," because they are still approved and recommended by doctors. I'm not a doctor, and I'm not going to put myself up as an authority in a counter-claim. I will share what I have learned and I will say that if a phosphate enema is recommended I'll probably either ask about subbing a different enema or quietly do it anyway. I know my body and I'm sure the prep will be better with a couple of large volume enemas.

Re: Bag and Tap water working "just as well" - on some people they do. Others need more of a kick. I'm IBS-C, and my "menu" of enemas range from tap water (used rarely because its not always strong enough) through SSEs (very common, enough of a kick to work much better then water), bisacodyl, glycerin, and Mayo (brown sugar and baking soda), but all big enough to get up beyond the sigmoid as rectum-only enemas don't work all that well on me.

I stick with either Dr. Bronner's Peppermint or good old Ivory. Whichever I use, I mix a fairly strong solution. In fact, with the Bronner's I can use get a strong taste of the peppermint in my mouth. Does anyone else experience this, I wonder.

The explanation I've been given is that peppermint flavor components can cross into the bloodstream and either directly stimulate the taste/scent organs or come out in the lungs and the vapors stimulate them.

Either way it's true that you can taste your mint enema if the concentration is strong enough. Mint is also supposed to help calm the bowels, with some data backing that claim up.

I would have to think that Ivory soapsuds would have to make the "true classics" list. So many people on here have discussed their childhood enemas with Ivory soap. It seems to be what started many of us on the journey to a lifetime of enemas.

I definitely taste Bronner’s peppermint when I use it.

How much Bronner's peppermint do you use per quart to be able to taste your enema? My usual for Castile soap is 1-1.5 tsp per quart. Is that enough?

Eric

I would say at least a tablespoon to an ounce per quart.

Yeah, I'd say it's in Susie's Tbsp/qt range. Teaspoon per quart is pleasantly tingly, but not enough to taste. TBSP/quart level strengths can be fairly "gut wrenching," especially for those of us with quirky guts, so another way to get it would be to borrow Susie's idea of adding peppermint extract to a more normal strength enema.

I'm definitely in the quirky gut group, so I'll try a tsp and slowly go up from there, unless I find some peppermint extract.

Eric

You can always add additional peppermint extract as in Susie's Rough Ride Enema and Susie's Very Rough Ride Enema.

What does additional peppermint extract do in addition to making it tastable? Burn/cool or tingle more? Smell good coming out? Prolonged burn/coolness after evacuation? Thanks,

Eric

What does additional peppermint extract do in addition to making it tastable? Burn/cool or tingle more? Smell good coming out? Prolonged burn/coolness after evacuation? Thanks,

Eric

The blood absorbs the the extract through the colon walls and when it circulates through the tongue, you taste it. It also has a bit more burn. There isn't much effect on the excreted enema solution, at least not to me. Coffee enemas mask the shitty smell the best.

Just purchased Dr. Bronner's almond today. Really has a strong Amaretto smell. Does it give you the taste like the peppermint does?

Just purchased Dr. Bronner's almond today. Really has a strong Amaretto smell. Does it give you the taste like the peppermint does?

That sounds very appealing, especially if there's a strong almond scent to your evacuation. Almond is one of my favorite scents, and I suspect it wouldn't irritate my rectum either.

Eric

You know I was just sitting here watching a porn video and I thought to myself. You know what would be a hell of a enema solution Get about 10 girls who can seriously squirt and catch it all in a bowel or cup until you can get two quarts and use there pussy juices as a solution now that would be a good time

The blood absorbs the the extract through the colon walls and when it circulates through the tongue, you taste it. It also has a bit more burn. There isn't much effect on the excreted enema solution, at least not to me. Coffee enemas mask the shitty smell the best.

Thanks. Also good to know about the masking effect of coffee. I would have guessed the mint might be the best.

Eric

EnemaAndIvory,

Just purchased Dr. Bronner's almond today. Really has a strong Amaretto smell. Does it give you the taste like the peppermint does?

Please let us know after you've tried it one or more times. I'd like to know about the whole experience including any taste, your colon/rectum sensations, and aroma/odor on emptying. Thanks,

Eric

Baking Soda Enema Recipe:

1 to 4 Tbl. Baking Soda

2 quarts warm filtered water ( Mix well )

{ Warning } Do Not use on a low sodium diet !

Temperature 103°