JBL sit down Enema Bag(s)

(NOTE: If anyone is willing to part with their JBL, I have a friend in the UK that is enthusiastically looking for one. Please contact me if you'd be willing to help him out, I'm positive he'd really appreciate it.)

Thanks to the generous offer of someone on here (Who I will currently leave un-named for their privacy), I was able to acquire a Klystra JBL enema bag. This was (I believe) the 5-litre model, and man, it's an experience I very much enjoy. The device works very well, and it's a fun experience to boot. For those that don't know what I'm talking about, the JBL bag is an enema bag you sit on that delivers the enema via a nozzle on the top.

Now, you might be wondering how it compares to a regular enema (lying down and having a hanging bag flow into you). It's hard to say because it's a different experience and it depends on what you're looking for. For myself, I love taking as large a capacity as I can, and it works wonderfully in that regard. I haven't had to really worry about cramping up or slowing it down compared to lying down and letting an enema flow in that way. I just hit my mark in a few minutes and that's it. Hop off the bag, and there's no need to worry about leaking. I've used it 4 times so far and there's no issue with it.

Some other nice things about it are that you sit on it, so you feel the bag deflating while you inflate and grow. I don't recall having any bad cramps where I've needed to excrete, compared to a flow bag which can be a bit harder. It's just a cool experience because you feel the transfer as the bag shrinks.

Honestly I can't find any cons with this device. It works well, it's got a lot more ease of setup and use (just fill, lube, and sit down on anywhere solid) and while it won't replace the enema experience entirely, it's a new way of doing enemas that's much more convenient for me. If I had to ask for an improvement, it'd be nice if the handle that controlled the flow was a bit longer, had a bit of an issue reaching it a couple of times.

I have a JBL and like it as well. The only drawback it has is being able to dry it out. Even when it should be empty a lot more drips come out and I don't want it getting moldy inside.

And the nozzle can be a little tricky to line up. You'd think it'd be easy, just sit down! But angles are weird things and have to be worked out to be comfortable.

An awesome plus is that when it's winter, sitting on the bag gets your whole butt warm! It's also a very slow fill, since the nozzle is so small. Just sit back with a warm butt, let it slowly flow into you, read some Zity and enjoy!

To dry it out quicker i rinse the JBL with alcohol.

I i am in a hurray, I put it on a wooden dowel so the sides don't touch.

If i have the time, I use a hair dryer to speed the process.

If i have the time, I use a hair dryer to speed the process.

Same here! I blow the hairdryer in trying not to burn my hands or melt the rubber! Oh well, it's what we do for a nice enema...

OK ...... here's a good tip:

Get an aquarium pump and stick the hose deep inside. Works like a charm. I use this trick for bulb syringes, too. No mold.

Also, I use a bit of mouthwash for final rinse before I dry. Leaves it smelling nice and minty.

Been doing this for years ..... try it, you'll like it.

It's a different feeling and you can take so much money re but the views are not as good

OK ...... here's a good tip:

Get an aquarium pump and stick the hose deep inside. Works like a charm. I use this trick for bulb syringes, too. No mold.

Also, I use a bit of mouthwash for final rinse before I dry. Leaves it smelling nice and minty.

Been doing this for years ..... try it, you'll like it.

I did use an aquarium pump. Just under the assumption it works.

Great thinking with the mouthwash. Listerine is fine? I want to make sure there arent any oils harmful to the latex (it could have peppermint oil or something?)

JBL sit down enema bags from Klystra, as we all know the site was shut down, and I'm hoping someone might be able to point me in the direction of one so my friend can purchase it. Any leads or does anyone want to part with theirs? Please leave a comment or a PM!

I have heard of using different cushions and crafting your own so you might ask for alternatives as well.

The JBL bags are GONE. They were discontinued long before Klystra closed.

Your best bet is to check eBay.

I acquired a JBL set from Klystra that I had for many years and rarely used it. Finally, I gave it to a nurse friend of mine I used to give enemas to.

We used to have one. They really were not well made. My little 115 pound ass broke ours. There was a minor flood in the bathroom when it decided to go. One made out of silicone to the quality of the Klystra silicone four quart bag would have been nice, but it wasn't to be.

Sorry to hear that Susie, that's quite a shame. Mine is still holding strong and I hope it continues to do as such.

It depends on what you mean.

In the pre-1950s, there were good sit-upon bags made by Tryell, the original JBL, in at least two versions.

The early ones were a rectangular shape and came in the wooden boxes with the star logo, often seen on eBay. The powdered "tonic" came in a smaller wooden box. There was a tggle fir holding the hose inside the lid. This bag held about 3 quarts

The later ones came in a somewhat larger cardboard box, blue-green in color with a mottled finish. There was a larger, square tin container of the tonic. BTW, an analysis of the tonic powder can be found on-line. The later version was not rectangular, but kidney shaped. This bag was larger and held about 5 quarts.

Both versions of the original bag were made in pieces out of rubber covered cloth, sewn and sealed together. What sometimes happens is the cloth inside rots, or the sewn seams burst.

Both the original designs have a stopcock style valve built into the nozzle base with the control extended so you can reach between your legs and turn the flow on or off and adjust it. Note there is no check valve so if you lift your weight off the bag, poopy water can and will flow backwards. For this reason, when you are done filling, urn off the tap before getting up.

The nozzles on the original are shaped like the nozzles that commonly come with a Fountain Syringe, but instead of a single hole on the end, which can become clogged with poo, have 6 rows of tiny holes. This is also claimed to produce a gentler flow.

In general, the original JBLs are well designed and will easily give mighty, colon clearing enemas without discomfort. Personally, I can take far more water with a JBL than otherwise.

They can also be used for punishment games, if that's your thing.

In contrast, the later knock-offs were poorly made. The rubber is not cloth reinforced and they tend to leak around the neck. The nozzles have no valves, although I've been told a valved version was available, and had a single hole. Not a fan.

They did occasionally show up on eBay although now seem rare.

If you can get an original, they can be used to take wonderful enemas. And, I am not interested in selling any. If there are single ladies interested in a "test drive", something might be arranged. LoL.

There is another thread titled "Home made JBL Cascade Bag" in which I submitted this post:

"Yes, I made one about 25 years ago. I had seen JBL Cascades in E magazines and nobody was reproducing them at the time.

I cut a section out of a new inner tube, folded the ends over and glued them with rubber cement. But the trick was to make a way to get a nozzle fastened to it. Being a machinist, I had access to a lathe and made the round parts required out of black medical-grade delrin. This included the flange that was attached permanently on the top of the bag, and the nozzle that would plug into it. After the bag was filled, the nozzle would snap into the flange and had an O-ring on it to seal up snugly and not leak. Also, I knew that back pressure could force contaminated water back into the bag, so I included a check valve inside the nozzle when I made it.

I had guessed about how large to make the bag, and it ended up holding a little over 3½ quarts. Close enough.

It's held up well. I still use it to this day."

I also have a Klystra JBL that I never use because I haven't made a nozzle with a built-in check valve yet. After all these years of procrastination, I think I'll soon be making one with a valve to control flow.

Please note: I'm inviting any interested lady who wants to try one ....... I'll be glad to oblige. There's nothing like sitting on a warm bag and feeling the flow.

And Canadian Guy ....... good luck if you try to making one.

A friend gave us his JBL, he didn't use it anymore. It wasn't my subs favorite way to take an enema. But the best way to take an enema sitting down.

My red rubber one from Tyler 10-15 years ago is still working but the rubber is definitely showing signs of cracking, so I don't know how long it will last. I've already had one buy offer. Renting it for people coming to sit on it is an interesting idea. That way a few people could come and experience it. Intriguing.

Eric

Eric,

If you mean my offer to ladies for a test ride on a JBL, it was not an offer to "rent".

It was an offer for interested ladies only to come visit and sit a while and experience the feelings. I don't really expect any takers, but who knows. Someone might just be curious or bold enough.

Of course, I'd like to watch and possibly more. 😃)

Sean,

Yes come to think if it it would be much more interesting and enjoyable for a lady to come over and test ride my JBL just for the fun and experience of it. I should have edited out any reference to renting it. Thanks. Probably no takers, but an interesting concept to imagine. I'd certainly enjoy watching and listening with encouragement to be vocal and explain what she was experiencing, more if she was interested. Just watching/listening would be great.

Eric

Eric,

I had something more like this in mind. Get a hard seat (no padding) chair with arms, preferably high enough so the lady's feet don't touch the ground. Put a disposable pad on the seat then the JBL bag filled with comfortably warm water. Lube the nozzle and lady well with a water based lube, like K-Y (oil rots the rubber). Then invite the lady to sit upon the nozzle.

When she is as comfortable as possible, open the valve and start a timer set for perhaps a half hour. Since her feet won't touch the floor, her weight will be on the bag. She can lift herself off with her arms and the water flow will stop.

This puts her in a delicious situation:.

If she lifts off the bag, no water flows, but her arms will tire

If she relaxes, the water will flow into her, causing an urge to poo.

The sooner she relaxes, the longer she'll have to hold the enema.

Of course, such a session can be made more intense by adding soap or glycerin to the water in the JBL or lengthening the sit time. The design of the JBL nozzle base pretty much acts as a retention device, so a premature accident is unlikely.

An intriguing setup. The first Domme I went to 20 y ago did about the same to me. Had her hand on my penis the whole time too so any wiggling I did from her hand just made the water flow into me faster. Wouldn't let me go until the bag was flat under me. I'd love to have an interested woman come try it out that way that you describe.

I also have a sneaker kink so I'd insist she come over in comfortable enema-taking clothes including shorts or jeans and sneakers and have her leave her sneakers on during her enema. Also warm feet and good traction when she gets up off the bag. Lovely. We'd start her on water and if she was interested add soap and glycerin to her second or third rounds to make it more interesting for her.

Eric

Do you think that Silicone Nozzles might be interested in making a JBL, since they seem to cater to we kysmos? Just hoping. My JBL developed a leak at the hanging hole and I have to fold it over tight to minimize the leaking. I'd also enjoy a faster flow.

A Silicone JBL

It's an interesting idea, but I don't think it'd work. Silicone rubber is generally more pliant than older rubbers, and certainly more pliant than the cloth reinforced rubber the original JBLs were made from.

I'd guess a silicone JBL bag would have to be made of much thicker material than a rubber counterpart, in order not to "balloon"

On a related topic, has anyone seen a combination syringe bade of silicone rubber? I have not and suspect it's for the same reason.

These are just guesses as I have no connection with Silicone Nozzles.

Actually silicone would be a great material to make a JBL out of. Klystra / Beth Tyler made silicone gallon open top translucent bags, and they were pretty tough. I don't know what would be involved in molding them, as unlike the original JBL, the bag would have to be molded in one piece. The metal part for the nozzle to screw on to would be inserted from the top and slid down to the mid part of the bag, the hole for it would be pre-punched, and the upper part would be a washer and a flat nut, all pretty standard hardware.

Is anyone seriously interested in this? Whoever undertakes the project would probably have to sell at least 10 or so just to break even on the tooling. They'd be pricey, but they'd be awsome..

You may be able to have a loose mesh nylon inside the silicone to strengthen it. The problem is putting it all together as silicone is generally "one go" before it hardens.

The nozzles have no valves, although I've been told a valved version was available, and had a single hole. Not a fan.

Yes, klystra's c type nozzle is a single hole nozzle with a valve. Their description of the b type nozzle stated that this also had a valve, and holes on the sides. By the time I got my JBL, they only had the c nozzle available, and I haven't experienced the single hole clogging so far.

I very much doubt that any silicone bag of reasonable thickness can be made. Silicone rubber is much "sttreachier" than the convention rubbers.

If you sit on an ordinary filled hot water bottle, it balloons. Hence the practice of "overfilling" a Combo syringe to cause it to balloon. The original JBLs were cloth reinforced. The cloth took the strain, the rubber was for waterproofing.

Reinforcing silicone with a nylon (or other cloth) bag, might be possible, but I think the bag would have to be sewn together. Furthermore, how do you propose to keep the cloth bag in the proper shape during the molding process? A hard challenge, I think.

I offer proof of my conclusions in the following way: Have you ever seen a Combo syringe, made of silicone rubber? I have not. Fountain syringes, definitely.

There are other rubbers today, and it might be possible, but essentially home brew silicone isn't practical, in my opinion.

If someone can actually make it work, I'd be a customer. I had a Klystra and was disappointed.

IMO, it was unserviceable junk. The original JBLs were very good.

I have heard all the reasons for not being able to make one. I think it might take some effort butt I believe some kind of bag could be found that would work for this and it would be pretty easy to incorporate a one way valve in as well. I have a business that makes things and we are better with metal but we also dabble with various plastics and rubber. While I can't send this out to my guys to make I will delve into it a little to see if I can come up with something that works.

@Sean said

I very much doubt that any silicone bag of reasonable thickness can be made. Silicone rubber is much "sttreachier" than the convention rubbers.

That's definitely incorrect. Silicones can be altered to have many charcteristics and even bags like the ORIGINAL (10-15 year old Klystra bags--NOT necessarily the recent bags) are thick enough to work properly as a JBL type bag.

Being stretchy is definitely one characteristic that can be adjusted by the addition of fillers and different types of silicones.

JBLs are a great feeling, very different from a bag and nozzle or catheter. Being filled by your own weight on the bag sitting upright is a unique and terrific feeling. Can't wait to do it again. Usually very easy to get huge fillings while not feeling like it's really that much. It'd be nice to have them available again for the community.

Eric