Circumcision status same as father's?

I too was born in the fifties. I am cut as was my father. I decided that if I had a son I would not have him circumcised. There are times when I would really like to know what it would have felt like to have a foreskin. I have never talked to my parents about why they had part of my body removed. I had daughters so it was a nonissue about any cutting. My grandson has been cut. If I had been asked I would have told them let it be his decision as an adult.

The same for him (born in the 20s) and me(born in the late 40s). I think I was in college before I first saw someone who wasn't cut. Victorian fears of sexual things still prevailed. First mom didn't want to deal with "playing" with his penis to keep it clean when he was little. I think my own mom was of that mind set. And then there was the old thought that it reduced the odds that a boy would engage in "the solitary vice" of masturbation. And by the 50s it became entrenched. My daughter had my infant grandson snipped because she didn't want him to look different. And I think that is the main reason today in the USA.

I am 99% sure my father was circumcised,i know my grandfather was circumcised because he had it done as an adult and told me how it was so painful and I was lucky I had it done as an infant and didn't remember it.

I had my son circumcised right after he was born as I also will with any future male children I have so I guess it is a family tradition.

any future male children I have so I guess it is a family tradition.

That is the same argument that is given by people who have pubescent girls' genitals altered. It is a (family/social) tradition so don't dare interfere or abolish it. They say it is no one else's business.

You misunderstood my "I guess it is a family tradition" comment. By that I only was referring to the fact that several generations in my family were circumcised it was not to imply that is the reason to continue it.

I am not being confrontation so don't take it that way, it's pretty obvious we are on the opposite end of the spectrum on this issue with you seemingly quite anti circumcision and me very pro circumcision.

I have other reasons I feel the way I do and I do not have to explain them or justify them here and I do not intend to.

As far as people always bringing up female genital mutilation in comparison to male circumcision I have seen this over and over.

The comparison is very flawed in my opinion for two reasons one of them you stated yourself (the fact that it is done to pubescent girls not infants) so it's much more traumatic.

The other reason that there are so many different ways it is done and some are very damaging like going as far as sewing the vagina closed or removing the clitoris etc.. It's damage not improvement and I am 100% completely against this sort of extreme practice.

As controversial as this attitude I have may be if only a minor alteration that made an improvement was done on infant girls who would not remember it I would be pro that like I am pro circ for males.

Sadly that is not what is done so I am as against it as much as everyone else is who is not from a culture where it is the norm.

We are in an agree to disagree situation here because trust me you are not going to change my views on this and I have no intention of continuing this conversation any farther because I'm not going to change yours either.

I once fell down some rabbit hole on reddit and landed in a sub where circumcised men cry about being circumcised so much they hate their parents, many try to restore their foreskin and some go to the point of being suicidal or being unable to look at their "Mutilated" penis without hating themselves.

A big circle jerk of misery for no good reason. Depression over someone doing them what IMO is a favor that they should be thankful for.

So yea I won't continue this conversation more. As I said I do not have to explain or justify my views and I don't intend to.

Let's let this thread get back to what it was. Are you and your dad/son both cut. Not pro Vs. Anti circ.

I apologize to everyone for rambling and hijacking this but I felt the need to respond for some reason about something I feel strongly about. Anyone can agree or disagree but I will never understand the anti circ people and that's OK I said all I need to about this so I'm done here.

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I once fell down some rabbit hole on reddit and landed in a sub where circumcised men cry about being circumcised so much they hate their parents, many try to restore their foreskin and some go to the point of being suicidal or being unable to look at their "Mutilated" penis without hating themselves.

A big circle jerk of misery for no good reason. Depression over someone doing them what IMO is a favor that they should be thankful for.

So yea I won't continue this conversation more. As I said I do not have to explain or justify my views and I don't intend to.

Let's let this thread get back to what it was. Are you and your dad/son both cut. Not pro Vs. Anti circ.

I apologize to everyone for rambling and hijacking this but I felt the need to respond for some reason about something I feel strongly about. Anyone can agree or disagree but I will never understand the anti circ people and that's OK I said all I need to about this so I'm done here.

A favour they should be thankful for, you are having a laugh aren't you? People are anti-circ when it is done without consent to infants, because in most cases there is absolutely no point in doing it, the negatives far outweigh any positives. If an adult male wants to be circumcised then good luck to them that is their own decision. But to circumcise a baby just because it suits your opinions or views is a different matter, you don't own them. Unless there is a compelling medical reason for doing it then leave them well alone... Circumcising a baby so he looks like daddy or little Billy next door is not a good reason believe me...

Yes; dad and I were circumcised.

Circumcising a baby so he looks like daddy or little Billy next door is not a good reason believe me...

It most certainly is not a good reason.

And here is something even more ironic. Parents don't really wish their son to be comparing penises with little Billy next door. Genital play between children is strongly discouraged. So, what would be the point then of wishing to conform to how others looked when naked? Parents wish them to look the same but don't want any situation where it would be apparent they could compare.

I am circumcised and my brothers as well. My dad was not, born into Italian Family in 1927 and was he born in the USA. I have two sons both are circumcised primarily because there mother was Jewish. They did not have the ceremonial bris, it was done at the hospital. In my sons case, because their Jewish heritage they were circumcised, however we actually raised them Christian. I would say my dad and also were both not circumcised because their parents had just come to America before they were born. I guess being born in the at the time I was it had become a common practice.

Both me and my brother are circumcised as my father was. I recently had the opportunity of caring for my invalid father-in-law during a long weekend away for my sister-in-law who is his primary caregiver. He was born in the rural mid-West during the height of the depression. I had assumed all of this time he would have not been circumcise. I was very surprised to find that he was in fact circumcised when I assisted him dress after his bath.

He was born in the rural mid-West during the height of the depression. I had assumed all of this time he would have not been circumcise. I was very surprised to find that he was in fact circumcised when I assisted him dress after his bath.

The rural Mid-West of the US is a region that tended (s) to be very conformist. You didn't get to be non-conformist back then without it somehow affecting other aspects of your life. It was in large cities where one found a concentration of immigrants (either from overseas or from the South) or people from different backgrounds. These were the groups that tended to be different than the average Mid-Western American.

As an aside, it was mostly these urban groups that rural Americans wished to target during Prohibition.

We are both uncircumcised.

My father and I have the same uncircumcised status. It mostly due to culture that we remained the same. As I child some confusion on my part arose for me because my father can look circumcised. I learned later in life that some men manage to train to keep their foreskin retracted at will all the time or their foreskin is of the type that doesn't develop to the extent the penis does on the onset of puberty therefore the foreskin shortening as they develop thus gradually leaving the glans essentially permanently exposed.

My dad is uncut, I'm circumcised.

My dad is uncut, I'm circumcised.

I find this circumstance interesting. I have to imagine that your dad was the parent more influential in having you circumcised. Do you have any knowledge about that and did you and he ever discuss the reason he had you circumcised?

My father was circumcised, my younger brother and I are not. The extended family was Lutheran on my father's side, Catholic on my mother's. The rule in the Catholic church at the time was that any offspring of a "mixed" marriage had to be raised Catholic. That included male children undergoing the rite of circumcision. My dad was overseas in WWII at the time I was born, and I expect my mother simply went ahead and had the procedure performed on me at birth. My brother came along six years later and was likewise circumcised at birth. Our dad was very casual about male nudity at home, camping, at the Y and other circumstances when it was only "us guys" around. So we had plenty of opportunities to observe and contemplate our difference from our dad. There were times in the shower together when he would pull back his foreskin while washing himself; I was fascinated, and wished sometimes that I had been left alone to be male as nature intended.

I find this circumstance interesting. I have to imagine that your dad was the parent more influential in having you circumcised. Do you have any knowledge about that and did you and he ever discuss the reason he had you circumcised?

No idea. We never discussed it.

My father, brother and I have the same uncircumcised status. But for my father and brother, the foreskin always covers the glans. I have a short foreskin that doesn't completely cover the glans. Often the glans are fully exposed!

My dad and I are both circumcised.

My father was circumcised, my younger brother and I are not. The extended family was Lutheran on my father's side, Catholic on my mother's. The rule in the Catholic church at the time was that any offspring of a "mixed" marriage had to be raised Catholic. That included male children undergoing the rite of circumcision.

There is no religious requirement for Catholics (or any Christian) to be circumcised. Many American Catholic boys/men born before the 1990's are circumcised, because that was the norm in the U.S. at the time. But there are 0 religious requirements for circumcision in Catholicism.

A highly abridged theological/historical explanation. The Jewish requirement for circumcision was ended very early on in the history of Christianity. As non-Jews were being preached to, they began to convert. There was a council to determine (among other issues) whether circumcision was necessary for men to be a follower of Christ. Basically, did they need to become Jewish first to formally be considered a follower of Jesus. The decision that council came to was, no.

My father is not circumcised but I was/am circumcised.

Both of us were,

My dad was cut in adulthood, for medical reasons. It happened before I was born, but he still opted to leave me intact. I’m thankful for that, because I love my elephant trunk. If I have any sons, they will have elephant trunk penises too. They look so natural, and I don’t see how any woman can find them gross or unattractive.

My father and I were not circumcised.

Jedro: You say "very particular medical cases". My impression is that, though this has somewhat receded nowadays, in some countries such as France and the UK physicians were quite quick to suggest circumcision as a remedy for phimosis, even though phimosis often relieves itself naturally or through gentle dilatation (steroid creams). Many boys suffering no adverse issues from phimosis were circumcised.

My father was uncut and so am I. He did not see the point in it.

Both uncut

My father was uncut, but I am cut. My four sons are cut, they were done the day after birth.

My mother was a nurse in Australia at the end of World War 2, and witnessed a large number of male soldiers returning home injured and also had severe penis infections because of the lack of hygiene. They had to have an operation to remove their foreskin. I know hygienic practices are a lot better now.

The operation and recovery is a lot quicker for a baby.

My father was uncut, but I am cut. My four sons are cut, they were done the day after birth.

My mother was a nurse in Australia at the end of World War 2 [..]

The operation and recovery is a lot quicker for a baby.

How old are your sons now? If she was a nurse in WW2, you would have been born 1950s, them in 1970s/80s? Have any of them had kids and have they been circumcised too? While I'm personally not going to circumcise any male sons, I'm always curious as to who is and is not circumcised and why/when.

I'm always curious as to who is and is not circumcised and why/when.

Being the only male in my HS class that was not circumcised, I also was curious of my peers circumcision status. I had hoped to see another uncircumcised classmate that I could befriend. Unfortunately, there was none.