Nothing about fifty shades of grey was correct. Christian Grey is an abusive, whiny,excuse of a dominant. Anastasia Steele is a joke at best, no submissive would disrespect their dom as much as she does. It is vanilla fantasy. D/s relationships are and should be full of respect and honor. When a sub offers submission it is a gift. A true dominant protects, takes care, and holds his or her subs accountable. Doms don't stalk, verbally abuse, or degrade their submissives. A good sub keeps themselves in touch at all times so that their lives can run smoothly and scenes and play can be fun, serious, hardcore, soft, vanilla, playful, etc.. and yes punishment is involved at times. A sub sets limits if a dominant ignores this. Run. I can say a ton more and to those that love the books that's fine but please don't base this on a D/s relationship.
Post 81 "boxcar"I'm still Laughing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From anybody that has been in any kind of relationship (Hetero or Homo) for an extended period of time can relate!!! Reminds me of an old Andy Capp Cartoon where Flo suggests they go out for the night, Says Andy on his way out the door," Whoever gets home first , leave the lights on!!" Ya' gota' love it!!with a "Click!!!!," (of the light switch!!!)highwater
BTW Boxcar,just googled the old movie "The Rocky Horror Picture show" with that "Sweet Transvestite Transsexual from Transilvania!!!!" Ya' gotta love it!! Never mind "50 Shades!!" I forget what's-his-face the "Trans-sexual with that "LOOK" hawking back his head, and looking haughty, sayz......."BITCH PLEAZEEE!!!!!"Ya' gotta love it!!!!!.highwater
When 50-Shades first came out I was discussing it with my two cousins. One said she wanted to see it and the other said she did not and so we told the one that didn't want to see it that if she didn't go see it with us we were going to blindfold her and spank her. We all thought that was pretty funny .. although we didn't actually follow through on it.
My wife didn't like the book and it bored her so fast. It wasn't a horrible book, and not a book I would recommend due to the negative aspects and not exactly putting BDSM in the right perspective.With that being said, go look up the author Tara Sue Me as she is a much better writer, her characters have 3 dimensions to them, much more realistic, much more educational on many different levels as well as a good read.
The important thing to realize is that 50 shades is not written for us kinky folk, in the same way that a Mazda Miata is not marketed toward professional race drivers. That being said, although I am grateful that the kinky lifestyle has been getting more exposure, it is important that people do not get the wrong idea about BDSM dynamics. It is on us seasoned kinksters to correct any preconceived notions and instill the values of playing safe, sane, and consensually.
@Peppy_Pepper , You are correct about education and I will throw one more in there, we need to police ourselves too. In the public scene that has been debated, many of us agree that we should be policing ourselves, others say leave it to law enforcement, and the list goes on... A friend of mine(may he rest in peace), used to work with law enforcement on occasions and knew how they operated. He had talked about writing a pamphlet that is a reference/resource for officers who have no understanding of BDSM, however, time became shorter than expected. Then another problem came about when the community put together the SM vs. Abuse and you had abusers voicing their opinion that what they do is not abuse. Many missed the point that it was merely a guideline not cast in stone, however, if it started raising red flags, then yes, one should look closer. In the library section is my version of SM vs. Abuse. If we wish to be accepted/respected in the non BDSM world, then we need to be proactive, educate but not be offensive in the way we do it. There are people with open minds that will listen, I have done my fair share of explaining to law enforcement about the aspects of BDSM. Having foreknowledge of how many law enforcement officers are trained and the thinking pattern helps alot.
@Peppy_Pepper , You are correct about education and I will throw one more in there, we need to police ourselves too. In the public scene that has been debated, many of us agree that we should be policing ourselves, others say leave it to law enforcement, and the list goes on...What does law enforcement have to do with books or movies? None of their business really. If people in law enforcement think they should concern themselves about sexual content in books or movies, then maybe they should move and get a job in Saudi Arabia or Taliban controlled Afghanistan.
I tried to read the book because all the women at work were reading it. I could barely get started it sucked so bad. Just boring. So I recently watched the first movie and totally enjoyed it! Erotic as hell!
For those that seem to have a problem with the Fifty Shades books and movies , while entitled to your opinions I am not sure what you were expecting to get out of them .Its strictly entertainment. The genre is erotic romance . Yes it centers around the BDSM lifestyle but in no way is claiming to be a how to book or guide .Its fiction .Is the writing exceptional ? NO But as far as entertainment goes I liked the books. You cant deny that some of the scenes are flippin hot . I did see the first movie and plan on seeing the second ( it was my favorite in the series ) . I get what I expect to get out it . Entertainment . Nothing more .As an added bonus maybe a couple of ideas for a fantasy to add to my repertoire ?
For those that seem to have a problem with the Fifty Shades books and movies , while entitled to your opinions I am not sure what you were expecting to get out of them......Its fiction...@bridgette couldn't be more right. 50 shades was based on a Twilight fan-fiction.The characters from Twilight were taken from the tween movies/books and reimagined for the 'real world', and then adopted for some vanillas who want 'read on the wild side'.Lower your expectations.In fairness, the book did an incredibly good job at what it was supposed to do, make money, and though in the movie the acting was painful (no pun intended) I can't complain as Dakota Johnson in a slightly big man's shirt made the movie worthwhile for me! 😁 Not a face I love but undeniably lovely legs.
So to those of you who were able to get into the book, how close is the movie to the book? The book just didn't pull me in like the movie. I'd be interested in your perspective on how they went together or didn't.
Juliebaby, I think the book was much steamier than the movie . There were a few ( what I consider kinky ) scenes that didnt make it into the movie most likely because they would have affected the movies rating . There was a hot scene when Christian removes Ana's tampon so they can have sex and one part that I was looking forward to was when they had a romp in the boathouse at his parents home . Those are the two that come to mind but I recall there were several . There were many other changes that were glossed over ( I would have to refresh the book and the movie ) . The traits of both main characters were downplayed a bit too. Christian had a much darker , creeper thing going on in the book and Ana seemed to have some kind of aversion to eating that was a big part throughout , I am sure time consumption plays a huge part when making a book into a movie .
Well you have talked me into giving the book another chance, if for no other reason than the missing KINK! Maybe I will enjoy the book more now.
Juliebaby , the second book is even better with the love to hate character, Mrs. Robinson .There are some juicy parts ( I learned what Ben Wa Balls were) and Christian also shows his oral skills . ?
I'll do that Bridgette. I'm going through the first book now. Easier to get through since I saw the movie. Helps to have a picture in my head. Some of it goes on and on. Looking forward to the second one. I'll definately read that so I can enjoy the movie.
I listened to the whole audiobook-18 hours--as I am a walker and need entertainment. I'm also into BDSM fantasy, but femdom male sub. As it was written from first person female I couldn't relate to the graphic details of her arousal & come. I figured this book was female porn, not meant for men. If one is a male dom maybe he would like it.
The writing was terrible and it seemed like teenage fan fiction. The concept was good but she is terrible writer.
I agree, terrible. PM me if you want a list of some really great erotica, some great author's out there . Some come very close to real BDSM and all the intricate working of those relationship's. If your going to read erotica at least read quality , vs mass produced vanilla BDSM.
I read the first one and that was more than enough for me (I wanted to slap that freakin' inner goddess until she passed out). But hey, as with anything art-wise, what matters is to be entertained. And if millions of people were entertained by the books, good for them. And if James became millionnaire despite her abysmal literary skills, good for her – she managed something (probably) none of us did. Furthermore, if that trilogy happened to be a gateway to more serious BDSM for a certain percentage of readers, it's one hell of a bonus.
It seems to me that this book is more suitable for those who want to learn how to describe sex scenes. And if you think logically, sex sells much better than Harry Potter.
I read all three books. It was like wading in hip deep water when you're tired, hungry and thirsty. I finished them because they were "a thing." I was bored out of my skull for most of them, but I read fast, so it was not much of a waste of time.As far as it reading like fanfiction, it started out that way, if I remember correctly. I can't imagine any Dom I've met being so diffident, or any sub in training reacting as the female protagonist did. By the end of the third book, it's almost as if all the BDSM has faded into the background and every sexual scene is pretty vanilla. Considering what some of you fine women write here, I doubt you'd be satisfied, even with a rich guy.
Loved the books!!! I have yet to watch the movies. This being said, I know how many say they are not realistic.
@Dragonflies369Read them as erotica. They are not a realistic portrayal of the BDSM world. If you are thinking of venturing into BDSM my suggestion is to join Fetlife (it is free for basic membership), find groups in your area and attend Munches (social gatherings in public) for a safe introduction to the lifestyle.