Coude catheter

New member trying out a Coude Cath :

Hello I just registered on this forum , I just orded a coloplast -self-cath tapered tip coude intermittent catheter 8fr-16" -w/guide strip and another one thats 10Fr - 16 - w/guide .

This is my first time buying a catheter, can anyone tell me a little bit about the two products I just purchased ?

The other thing is I'm not looking to go all the way into my bladder, only into my penis for penis fun or excitment but only in a safe way.

I have seen safe videos and I have to say some of the videos I viewed looked unsafe and some looked to be safe but my question is how safe ?

These coude catheters I just purchased online can they be used over again or do you need to keep buying them once used?

I'm not doing anything until l have full knowlege of whats safe and what is not safe, it looks really cool and I get really excited just watching those video's thinking wow I want to give that a try .

Sorry for my typing skills, I'm not the best typist.

Cheers ! sexplay

Call me overcautious (you wouldn't be the first) but your post disturbs me. Let me get this straight; you've seen a couple of videos and you thought you'd like to give catheter play a try. So you order a couple catheters but you really have no idea what you're doing so you come here for advice.

Well, at least you're coming sooner rather than later. Others may have a different opinion but I wouldn't recommend a Coude catheter for a novice experience, I'd use a regular Foley. NO, catheters should never be reused. If it's not sterile, it shouldn't go in the urethra. You need to be familiar with aseptic technique and how to maintain a sterile field. I would lay the Coude aside for awhile and order a Foley with a sterile insertion kit to get yourself started. There are lots of instructional videos on YouTube, some better than others. Perhaps one of our medical professionals can recommend a particular one.

I don't mean to discourage you in any way because I love catheter play and so does my partner but you have to educate yourself and be careful.

LD

Sexplay - I'll go with what ladydoc says there. I would add a couple of other things to her advice though.

1. Beside using a new catheter each time - you should actually discard and use a new one even if you only partly insert it and withdraw.

2. I wouldn't use a catheter as thin as 8 or 10Fr - at least until you're used to inserting them. There is more chance, the thinner the catheter, of creating a false urethra, otherwise described as piercing the sides of it. Suggest 16Fr.

Also, whilst ladydoc refers to obtaining a catheter insertion kit she doesn't , I think, emphasise that enough. It's vital to learn how to use that as well as the catheter, to create a sterile field (area). And that kit should be new each time too.

True, it can be a rewarding practice but needs performing with knowledge. View video clips by all means but preferably the genuine medical instructional ones - even those performed with artificial body's, Mannequins.

Standard Advice - Play Nice, but Play Safe!

The coude cath isn't such a problem if you insert it very carefully. YOU MUST follow the striped guide on the cath because if you don't keep it straight, the pre-curved tip can easily cause irritation and bleeding if you rotate it and the curve faces the wrong direction.

In general, I would recommend a Foley or regular non-balloon catheter in the 14-16Fr range for beginners.

Why are you guys recommending a foley for a beginner? They're harder to get in and out, more complicated with the inflatable balloons and more expensive. And if the balloon doesn't totally deflate you could have a problem on your hands when it's time for removal. Straight caths are simpler to insert and remove, no balloon to deal with, less expensive, and just as effective for play purposes because you still lose control of your bladder and experience the thrill of urethral penetration. You can also get them to stay in with just a piece of tape.

Suzi,

I call them straight caths. Is that the same thing you refer to as "non balloon"?

Point taken, curious44. There are some advantages to using intermittent caths for those that just want the sensation of urethral play or the experience of loss of control.

Nonetheless, I stand by my assertion that Coude catheters are a little complex for the average novice, that reuse of catheters is a huge no-no and that proper technique is paramount in urethral play.

Ladydoc,

I agree with you on re-use and technique, especially when it comes to cleanliness.

It's apparent I've got more to learn about the varieties of catheters. Up until now I thought a coude was just a straight catheter with an angled tip. Now I see (through the wonders of Google) coudes can also have a balloon like a Foley and the angle of the tip can vary. I bought a coude once (no balloon) just to try it out. It had a very sharp angle right at the tip, almost 45* and the tip was very hard and rigid. I knew enough to be careful and keep the tip pointed in the right direction. It went past my prostate easy enough but it was tough getting it in to my bladder. Tough enough that there was a spot of blood on it when I pulled it out. Once was enough with that thing. I cut the tip off and used the rest to make a very effective E-Stim urethral electrode.

Yea I probably wouldnt recommend going with a coude catheter as your first catheter for play... Pick up some standard straight catheters and try that out first

The first thing I’d recommend is not using the Coudé catheters, which have a big bend designed to get it through an enlarged prostate. Secondly, to have fun, get larger catheters. Guys can easily get an 18 in the penis. Thirdly if one is just going to put it into the penis one can use either a straight catheter or a Foley catheter without inflating the balloon. Foley catheters come in larger sizes.

New, rookie catheter players should go to the library or other sources and read up on how nurses insert catheters in a sterile fashion. See some videos. One skill is putting on gloves without contamination. Read up on that or videos. When you’ve gotten the education, then buy good stuff. It’s cheap, compared to other recreational adventures.

Allegro medical sells straight catheter insertion kits complete with a new catheter for about $2.15 apiece. So if one gets 10 of them, with shipping, your adventure will cost less than $30 with shipping. That’s same price as going to the movies 3 times. Use sterile stuff properly and you’ll avoid infections.

Now consider the cost of messing up your penis and bladder because you didn’t get educated, tried to reuse the catheter, stuck the Coudé in the wrong way. What will it cost to go to the ER or your family physician? What will the medications for an infection cost?

Once you’ve tried inserting only into the penis, you won’t want to stop there. I’m sure you’ll keep pushing into the bladder to drain some urine. It’ll be even more important to use sterile everything. Graduate to a Foley later. It can be fun to wear a catheter for a long period of time.

Lastly when you play with your urethra and bladder, drink lots of water, like a quart an hour, to flush out your bladder and urethra.

There are so many bad practices out there on video, even by medical professionals, that you really have to know how to maintain sterility, as was mentioned in previous posts. Probably the most common bad practice is putting on sterile gloves, touching the penis or labia while applying the disinfectant, then using that hand to touch the catheter or to apply lubricant. Once a sterile glove touches anything that is not already sterile, it is no longer sterile. Another bad practice is allowing the catheter to touch something that is not sterile as it is being inserted. This is especially easy to do when inserting a catheter in a female unless you know the correct technique. I also completely agree about using a coude catheter. Also as previously mentioned, although it might be counter-intuitive, it is safer to use a 16 or 18 FR catheter than a 10 or a 12 FR catheter. It is easier to damage the urethra and cause a false passage with smaller catheters.

Has anyone every used a coude catheter? I am curious about them and was wondering how they feel compared to regular catheters. Also, what is the insertion like?

They feel just lokia regular catheter. They have a smaller and curved tip that make it easier to pass thru the prostate gland. When inserting you have to keep the tip facing up. They usually have a stripe on catheter to help you with this. Used mostly when the prostate glan is inlarged and a reg catheter will not pass thru easy.

They are very nice catheters for men with enlarged prostate glands, much easier to insert for me as a nurse, and much more comfortable for my patients, so I have been told. A lot of people do not pronounce them correctly which makes it difficult when and if you are ever interested in ordering them over the phone. They are pronounced "coo-day". The only drawback to them is that they are way more expensive than a regular catheter. Hope this helps?

Mashie

I agree with Tubeman. I could not feel any difference on insertion, and certainly not when in the bladder, as compared to a straight cath of the same French. The fun though is the visual stimulation of seeing the curved tip disappear inside.

When I need to self cath for medical reasons I use a 16 FR coude catheter. I have found it easier to get in at times and there is a little less sensation when it passes the prostate than with a straight catheter. But honestly not too much of a difference in feeling.

I was told by my Urologist after a rigid cysto, that cause of my tight bladder neck, that he wants to try a special rubber coude, and I'm puzzled, as he also cancelled my script too straight caths, and now wants me to see a physical therapist for special procedures, still have a Foley in now.

I've been cathing with a vinyl 18 Fr coude catheter for many, many years to drain my Indiana Pouch. Made from bowel segments as a replacement for my cancerous bladder, it works better for me as the pouch is actually made from bowel segments. (Google it!) The smaller, slightly bulbous tip and the slight bend simply allow me to pass it more easily than a straight catheter. The feeling is similar, but the passage is easier.