High volume realities?

Just waiting for @Flames reply........ 😉

Za

Another quick update on my experience:

Anecdotally I can report that my ability to take on a gallon seems to be correlated to the additives I use. As I type this I’m retaining four quarts of salty/baking soda water that went in through one continuous flow. Doing so with a gallon of soapy water has been much more challenging.

LoveItKinky,

I seem to be able to do both, water or salt or Castile soap, at 4 quarts without any major problems. Which is somewhat surprising since usually I'm extremely or overly sensitive to irritations. What's challenging about the gallon of soap for you? Too much cramping?

Eric

Just waiting for @Flames reply........ 😉

Za

Okay, Za, I'll bite - I really enjoy Flames' comments and I'll be happy to read anything she posts here, but are you waiting for her to specifically comment about something here?

Eric

Another quick update on my experience:

Anecdotally I can report that my ability to take on a gallon seems to be correlated to the additives I use. As I type this I’m retaining four quarts of salty/baking soda water that went in through one continuous flow. Doing so with a gallon of soapy water has been much more challenging.

I have noticed the same thing. In addition, the ability to hold the enema volume for a much longer period of time also seems to be related to the same additives.

LoveItKinky,

...What's challenging about the gallon of soap for you? Too much cramping?

Eric

Yes. For me, salt/baking soda induces very little compared to soap.

Just for curiosity.......how many qts a person can have at an enema? I mean, the max capacity of a human.....

Za

Most I have ever taken is 3 its. Not a volume queen!!!

Just for curiosity.......how many qts a person can have at an enema? I mean, the max capacity of a human.....

Za

Can vary significantly. Take what is comfortable for you and don't worry about what you "should be able to take"

Just for curiosity.......how many qts a person can have at an enema? I mean, the max capacity of a human.....

Za

Za,

I've never looked up colon dimensions, though some figures I've seen quoted here seem at least in the ballpark. I'll just tell you what my high volume experience is and others can add to it or comment. I do 4 quarts pretty frequently, with no pain, just pleasant and stimulating pressure and distention. One single time I gave myself 5 quarts, as it turns out almost by accident, again very comfortable but somewhat more pressure. Having done that, I can at least conceive of possibly doing 6 quarts, assuming no pain or other warning signs though I have no strong desire to repeat or go above 5. I could easily verify my claim of up to 5 by someone paying a visit when I repeat the 5 quart fill for them.

Now in reading Zity for several years now, I've seen claims of 7-8 quarts, possibly more. I think to be believable, I might have to be there as an eyewitness or know the claimant personally.

And I'd reiterate what was said below - Take what is comfortable for you and don't worry about what you "should be able to take" or what anyone else does.

Eric

Just be aware that a large percentage of the people who claim they take ridiculously large volume enemas (2 gallons or more) are bullshitters. The average colon can expand to a diameter of about 3 inches and is about 5 feet long. That average colon can hold about 7 quarts (14.5 pounds) of water, if you can keep from expelling it.

You cannot stretch your colon to larger sizes by taking repeated large volume enemas, no matter what people claim on this site. I gave myself my first enema when I was 8 years old. I am about to be 72, so that is 64 years of enemas. During my life, I have taken an uncountable number of enemas, some large volume some average volume. I have forced myself to take numerous large volume enemas, at least a thousand, probably closer to two thousand. So, after all that, if anyone should have stretched his colon, it would certainly be me. Guess what, I can still only take the same volume enema I could years ago when I took my first large volume enema. The point is that your colon is not like a rubber balloon that can be stretched out of shape until it is deformed so it can hold more water, and anyone who tells you that is full of shit (pun intended).

The way this usually goes is that there will be a bunch of indignant responses, usually falling into three groups.

One will just tell me I don't know what I am talking about and question my credentials to make these claims.

A second will offer the tired old response that everyone is different, and while that may be true, there are still certain realities that apply to everyone, namely, your colon does NOT stretch like a balloon.

The third group will respond with stories of how they took enema after enema and gradually increased the volume, but that is the result of cleaning the colon so there is room for more enema water, as well as will power, as the person gets used to the discomfort.

Just be happy with what you can take, after all it is about what gives you pleasure, so if your limit is 3 quarts and it feels good, then fine. If you don't take more than 2 quarts, then that is perfect for you. Volume is not an ego contest among playground children, ("I can take more enema than you, nah, nah, nah!")

@AquaManH20,

I tend to agree with you. I know my personal limit is just over 6.0 liters and I do that "rarely." And although I can do 5.0 liters much more frequently than 6.0, I find that my comfortable and most enjoyable maximum is somewhere between 3.75 and 4.5 liters. It's really wherever I feel the most comfortable even if I have to cutoff flow from the bag.

Like you, I started many years ago and I was curious as to just how much I could take and hold with a curved douche nozzle. I quickly found I could routinely hold about one (US) gallon, which has been my nominal "go to" volume when I'm going for the really full feeling. There are days when the first enema or maybe two are really challenging once I get beyond 2.5 liters. And you're correct, it isn't a contest.

Hi all ,

I find that when I use a small colon tube I can hold a little more. It also helps to control the cramps and the need to evacuate.

I have found as I get older, my enemas don't need to be as large.

But I usually take one with the bag with Dr Bonners and come back for a second one to flush me out.

Too large, seems to stop me going for days, which becomes uncomfortable.

Will.

Wow! Cannot imagine what the belly distention must look like from 4qts.

There are only three times where I have reached the 6 U.S. quart level (actually just over 6 liters approaching 6.5 U.S. quarts) and I do consider that my personal "maximum." It's not something that is routine or a volume that I have been able to hold for long time periods. I have only accomplished that volume after an extensive clean-out hours before.

And I actually have two bags that can hold 6.0 liters of liquid when the liquid is poured in hot (causes the bag the stretch a bit more to hold an extra 0.4 liters, bag doesn't shrink while the solution is cooling). https://en.zity.biz/index.php?mx=imgbnkzz;ox=itmdownload;img=186765;s=gallery;image

That being said, I find it erotic to see such a bag filled to this capacity even if, on any given day, I probably won't be able to hold the total volume. For a visually erotic exercise, I have ganged to the bags together for the "concept" of taking a large volume without interruption. https://en.zity.biz/index.php?mx=imgbnkzz;ox=itmdownload;img=186761;s=gallery;image

It's much more likely that I take and hold closer to 5.0 liters from these bags than the full 6. And it usually is a slow filling rather than fast to take the larger volumes. I take what I can, enjoy the feeling after holding it for whatever time I can, and then release.

What I can say is that holding that much liquid inside changes the sense of mass and provides a good deal of abdomen distention before release.

EnemaRunner posted:

There are only three times where I have reached the 6 U.S. quart level (actually just over 6 liters approaching 6.5 U.S. quarts) and I do consider that my personal "maximum." It's not something that is routine or a volume that I have been able to hold for long time periods. I have only accomplished that volume after an extensive clean-out hours before................................

It's much more likely that I take and hold closer to 5.0 liters from these bags than the full 6. And it usually is a slow filling rather than fast to take the larger volumes. I take what I can, enjoy the feeling after holding it for whatever time I can, and then release.

What I can say is that holding that much liquid inside changes the sense of mass and provides a good deal of abdomen distention before release.

Like ER here and a few others on Zity, having enjoyed enemas for > 50 years with no problems, for various reasons I very much enjoy fairly large enema volumes held for fairly long times. And so like others have said, while it's definitely not a contest, I enjoy reading about various members' discussion of their volume experiences. In his post quoted above, to me the most important takeaway is

"I take what I can, enjoy the feeling after holding it for whatever time I can, and then release." I completely agree. Often I take 4 quarts and for one single enema I almost accidentally wound up taking 5 quarts. However, various factors including time, solution, equipment used and recent enema history (many or very few) impact what any day's volume really is. After a hiatus sometimes it's just a 2-3 quart day and I have no interest in 4 or 5. It's still very fun, erotic and satisfying.

That being said, I do have a curiosity about some of ER's other comments. ER, since you take quite a number of enemas, many in preparation for races, how did it occur or what motivated you to wind up with 6 liters on those three occasions? And and how long did you hold onto them? In my own case, I pretty routinely take 4 quarts for 30-60 minutes. However, one day last year after having done 4 quarts the previous 2-3 days I only had a 2.5 quart bag available the next day. So I took the full 2.5 and refilled it thinking I'd just take another quart. Well I enjoyed it so much that I fell asleep during the second bag. By the time I noticed it, I'd taken the whole second bag, winding up with 5 quarts. It felt very full but pleasant and erotic, but I haven't gone over 4-4.5 quarts since.

And I definitely agree with him that a big enema like 4-5 quarts and certainly 6 will change my center of mass and make it much more challenging and interesting to get up off the bath rug and stand up to admire the distention.

Eric

@reddevil Just speaking from personal experience, I unexpectedly managed to drain my open-top gallon bag this morning while laying on my back - my typical enema volume is usually in the range of 3 to 3.5 quarts, although I always fill the gallon bag right up to the top and it may be a bit stretched from years of use, so I may be getting a bit more than a gallon. I'm about 5'6 and 145 lbs with an average build, and while 4 quarts definitely distends my belly quite a bit, it's not really the same sort of pronounced roundness you might see on, say, a woman who's in her second trimester of pregnancy. It seems more like a spread-out kind of fullness across my belly and midsection rather than a distinctly round shape. That said, it certainly feels very full and stretched tight!

@ericmacson

The enemas that I take prior to races tend to be smaller; say, 2.0-2.5 liters and sometimes up to 3.0. Through experimentation, I have found that if I take a pre-race enema of more than 3.0 liters without plenty of time to either expel or to absorb excess liquid, it can tend to get a bit messy. Timing is important, too, so that there is at least 3-4 hours from the end of the enema expulsion to running.

The same thing holds true for medium long runs (10-16 miles) and long runs (16-22 miles). The difference is that those runs tend to be structured differently than what I'd run under race conditions.

To answer the question about the motivation to take on 6.0 liters involves a bit of mountain climbing lore (which I also used to do 30 years ago) attributed to George Mallory: "Because it's there!" The fact that the first time that I took 6.0 liters the first time was simply because I filled the bag with 6.0 liters of hot water (at about 4:30 AM), allowed it to cool sufficiently before allowing it to flow in. It was hung on one of the posts of my four poster bag to cool. It also helped that it had baking soda in it as it helps limits the peristaltic contractions and that several enemas the day before in the 4 to 5 liter range had provided a pretty thorough cleaning the day before.

Also realize that this was not a fast enema (nor were any of these large volume enemas). At about 5:30 AM I inserted the nozzle and inflated it. The hose had double clamps on it so that both would need to be opened before the liquid could flow in. One was simply open or closed and the other one I could adjust the flow. And because the nozzle bore is smaller, the rate of flow was slower than typical even with both clamps opened completely. The first time, I allowed the enema to trickle in over a long period of time and it took at least 55 minutes to drain into me. At dawn, I released the clamps at 6:05 AM. After the cool liquid contained in the hose flowed in, I could feel the very warm liquid from the bag begin to flow (still a little too warm) and slowed the rate of filling.

By 6:21 AM, about 1/3rd of the bag had flowed into me. By 6:30 about half of the bag (~3 liters) was in. The liquid was getting cooler as it slowly flowed in. By 6:45, at least 4.5 liters were in. By 6:55 AM all but about the last 500 ml had flowed in (the bag was pretty flat but not empty). And at 7:01 AM, the bag was empty and I was quite full. I know this because I was taking pictures as the bag drained and I am using the time stamp from the pictures as the basis for the times. How long did I hold the full volume? It wasn't long. Maybe 8 or 9 minutes before I swung my legs over the side of the bed, carefully stood up, unhooked the bag from the post and then waddled into the bathroom to deflate the nozzle and expel the contents. I hung the bag up on the towel rack and as soon as the nozzle deflate enough, the pressure of the liquid in my colon fired the nozzle into the toilet bowl. I lifted it out by the hose and draped the hose and nozzle into the tub.

The liquid came out in long continuous streams and was mostly clear at first. As I was expelling this volume, I began to refill the bag with warm (not hot) water and with more baking soda. Because the latex bag doesn't stretch out as much with warm later, I could only fill it to 5.65 liters. Although the complete volume from the first enema wasn't completely emptied out of me, by 7:30 AM I had the nozzle reinserted to take the next full bag hanging on another post on my bed.

I didn't take the full volume from the second bag as I allowed about 4 liters to flow in before shutting off the flow. I held that enema for a good long time as I got online with a Zity friend and we chatted while I held my enema inside. I've subsequently taken a 6+ liter coffee enema and another warm water/baking soda enema that have exceeded 6 liters. There are quite a few times where I fill these bags (the black and/or the amber latex bag) but I stop short of the full volume of the bag. It's whatever feels comfortable to me, which is why I have breeched the 6-liter level only three times.

I won't quote his long post #78 just below, but thanks EnemaRunner for your long explanation of your 6 quart experiences. Partly because I usually take 4 quarts and have gone up to 5 one time, and partly because of the quality of ER's and a few others' posts, his actually taking 6 quarts is very believable. Technically, to be absolutely certain, you'd have to be there to watch the measurement of the bag(s) being filled and witness the enema flow in, including for my claims. My personal claims of 4-5 quarts are very easy to verify if you visit or watch a video of my enemas. I vaguely recall reading here of claims of 7-8 quarts. Not being there, I can't be certain, but for me, those would require some verification.

Like for ER above, me getting carefully up to 6 quarts or at least attempting it does sound interesting and appealing, but for the time being, I'm very satisfied with taking 4 as a routine and occasionally more.

Eric

I do use a plastic measuring cup that is a remnant from a smoothie maker that my mom had and that I brought home after she had to go into a nursing home. The measuring cup measures in fluid ounces on one side and ml on the other side. The metric markings are in 50 ml increments and I have checked it against a 1.0 liter graduated cylinder that I had until I broke it one day late last year. So I do know that it is relatively accurate and gives suitable precision in measurement. And I have placed markings that correspond to 0.5 liter volumes on some of my bags for quick measurements without filling the cup 500 or 600 ml at a time.

Over on Fetlife, where I can post videos, I have included a complete unbroken and unedited 15:12 video sequence of me taking a 5-liter enema. Starting with a full 5.5 liter bag filled to 5.0 liters, the insertion and inflation of the double balloon nozzle, and then watching the bag gradually empty into me as the level in the clear bag dropped to empty. Since the 6.0 liter enema is a relative rarity for me, I haven't tried to video the sequence.

ER,

I use measuring cups and spoons for my enema solutions, mostly because I'm a retired physician and a bit obsessively detail oriented, but also because my LGI tissues are way too sensitive and measuring makes my results more consistent. Interesting video. I'd like to watch it, especially since that sounds like a bit more than my maximum ever enema, but I'm not on FetLife. Where do you end it, right after the bag empties into you?

Eric

Eric,

I do go far as to use a scale for my salt and baking soda proportions, though with practice I have a pretty good sense of proportions.

The draining is complete at 14:42 in the video. After that, I disconnect the nozzle from the hose (there is a check valve in the end of the nozzle) and get up and wander away from the camera's view.

I only occasionally take a single 4-qt enema at the end of an enema session, AFTER a clear return has been achieved. Most sessions I don't. In the last 14 months, I have managed 3 enema cleansing sessions exactly ONE of which involved a 4-qt enema.

4-qt is my limit. I can't really exceed that. Even that is very difficult to hold past 10 minutes or so. 20 minutes is beyond my capability.

Pain??

I can't think about that when I'm preparing the 4-qt, or getting into position. If I do I will psyche myself out of taking it. The nausea can reach moderate levels, worse than it does with smaller enemas, and is always worse than the pain.

I use a 5-inch rigid nozzle for that enema. I use it nowhere else. That is one of few times I find I need to lube the nozzle. For some reason, I always do something I know I shouldn't After I have the nozzle lubed, I hold it straight up and stare at it for a few seconds. then I tell myself, “STOP THAT! You KNOW where it needs to go! Get it there!".

That's just me!

I used to take lots of enemas years ago. I did a series of enemas, usually 3 to 5 in a row, and would increase volume with each one. One of the setups I used was a large plastic bucket that could hold 7 quarts. I had marks up the side showing the quantity. For the last enema of the series, I would fill it to the 4 quart mark and try to take it all. Frequently, I would take the last of a series while standing, this seemed to increase the volume I could hold. At least several dozen times I did manage to take the full 4 quarts. I did not hold these final enemas long, anywhere from 30 seconds to a few minutes at the most. I stopped the flow when the pressure crossed from uncomfortable to painful. This was almost always done with soapsuds, which increased the sensation, but also made the enema more uncomfortable. I usually decreased the soapiness as the series went on, but sometimes started with minimal soap and then made the last enema very soapy so as to get the most powerful stimulation of the colon lining. For the earlier enemas of the series, I would lie down and try to hold them for 5 to 10 minutes each.

Jon

I've noticed that as I approach 2 quarts the flow really slows down. At 2 quarts, if I move or tense my stomach I can see some backflow in the clear plastics hose. I have had a couple operations that involved extensive abdominal work so the Dr.'s and I think there are probably some adhesions cutting down on capacity.