Estim Your Nipples - NO!

Estim Your Nipples!

I read on many blogs regarding estim (electrical stimulation) using a TENS or other power source that you should never stimulate “above the waist”. I have been enjoying stimulation on my nipples (and penis) for over three years with much enjoyment and no harm at all! Here is how that came about.

I came down with prostate cancer in 2011, and had radioactive seeds (brachytherapy) as a treatment. I have been pronounced cured of that ailment. However, because of the treatment, and also because of my age (83), I have erectile dysfunction. I explored the use of a TENS unit to alleviate that condition. In 2014, I bought a TENS unit from Amazon for $33, the Santamedical model, which had great reviews (although most were not about estim.) The Braxton website (https://higbystim.com/) had instructions about using a TENS unit for sexual stimulation. At first I used the sticky pads that came with the unit, but later bought on Amazon a set of conductive rubber loops, which were far superior to the massager pads. I attached the loops to my penis, but where best to attach the pads? Certainly not on the nipples, Braxton warned against that. So I searched on Google: estim nipples. I found the following site: http://www.e-stim.net/viewtopic.php?t=4399, which stated:

"I asked by GP (medical doctor) how safe e-stim was on the nipples, and I found the answer interesting. She was remarkably unfased and just responded that if it is a TENS unit then it's very safe. She said if misuse of TENS units was considered dangerous they wouldn't be available without a prescription, and since they've been around for a long time without serious problems they are considered very safe. She said they are aware that people misuse TENS units by putting the pads across the chest, and that this isn't as dangerous as you would think (still not advisable) but that it is much more dangerous to put the pads on the head or neck."

Interesting, but was this really a statement by a doctor? I searched further on Google: TENS angina placement. The following page came up:

http://www.cefarcompex.com/no_NO/TENS_Pain_relief_Electrode_placements.html ,

showing a picture with the electrodes placed right over the heart! I was delighted.

See also the UK site: https://www.niddvalley.co.uk/sympton_search.asp?sID=Angina, which states:

The TENS electrode pads are placed on the chest so that the main area where the patient experiences pain lies between them.

Further research on Google turned up other websites, both from the U S national Institute of Health and the British national Health Service. Both institutes have used TENS to treat angina, and place the pads right over the heart. (Admittedly, they no longer use TENS for angina, but that is because there are now better ways to treat angina: namely, pills.)

The problem is that WHEN death occurs because the electric path happens to find the heart as the path of least resistance, it is instantaneous. Other things that can contribute are skin hydration and your body's electrolyte balance. Exact electrode placement can cause that transcardiac pathway as well by finding that nerve or blood vessel that goes just where you don't want it to.

I found my low frequency massager (could be a kind of TENS) gives 100mA at the maximum strength. This is a bit scary when it is applied to nipples. But it could be OK because the duty ratio of the pulses are very low. And the current should not go through the heart, but tissue between both nipples. So far, I am alive.

I found my low frequency massager (could be a kind of TENS) gives 100mA at the maximum strength. This is a bit scary when it is applied to nipples. But it could be OK because the duty ratio of the pulses are very low. And the current should not go through the heart, but tissue between both nipples. So far, I am alive.

YOU HOPE it doesn't go through your heart.

100ma ACROSS THE HEART WILL KILL YOU.

What JDS says is absolutely correct.

Not just the current, but the time is another factor. 100mA of AC for more than 500ms is dangerous. 100mA of DC for more than 50ms is risky. Please refer IEC60479-1.

My pulser's pulse width is just 0.2ms and the number of pulses in a second is only from 1 to 30. I don't think this kills me anyway.

I found my low frequency massager (could be a kind of TENS) gives 100mA at the maximum strength. This is a bit scary when it is applied to nipples. But it could be OK because the duty ratio of the pulses are very low. And the current should not go through the heart, but tissue between both nipples. So far, I am alive.

BETWEEN BOTH NIPPLES? IOW across your chest? Please let me know where to send the flowers.

IF you're going to stim your nipples, at least do one at a time. Place both poles in close proximity to minimize (not eliminate) the chance of unintended pathways.

There are bipolar nipple clamps but we don't own them and I am sure they feel different from monopolars on each nipple across the chest.

It's not an interest that I have. It's too dangerous.

Once upon a time, I played with a woman who had large, usually erect nipples. We both acknowledged the danger. I used a wire noose around the nipple with an adhesive electrode about an inch away. Using an ET-312 power box, her enjoyment was obvious.

Just know the real danger of this play. Be prepared by knowing CPR and having a phone nearby. The danger is real. It's not like cutting off circulation or even breath play where you can cut ropes or remove your hands.. When death happens, it's instantaneous - you can't stop it by unplugging.

A person walks in, writes a potentially dangerous play advice as his very first post and newer returns...

A person walks in, writes a potentially dangerous play advice as his very first post and newer returns...

Maybe we scared him off or he died trying what he suggested people to do.

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. . . Just know the real danger of this play. Be prepared by knowing CPR and having a phone nearby. . . .

I don't want to say CPR is worthless, but depending on whose study you read, CPR is only 5-10% successful. Then you die. You really need a defibrillator to save a life-especially if the heart has been stopped by electricity.

CPR - absolutely, but no CPR is 100% fatal.

This is RACK (Risk Aware Consensual Kink) play. It's dangerous and the players need to both understand the risk and the techniques. The bottom can't just trust the Top.

@The_Big_Bagger said

Just a thought, but perhape the entire thread should be deleted??

Not right away. As the OP published his post, it's surely worth also publishing the safety message that this is a potentially dangerous practice.

Not right away. As the OP published his post, it's surely worth also publishing the safety message that this is a potentially dangerous practice.

Good point...

I'm glad that many people are concious about safty. Please be reminded that I have never recommended this play to any person and/or persuade people to do it. If anyone received my comment as my recomendation, I need to apologize and shut up. But at least I would like to mention again about International Electrotechnical Comittee's study on IEC TS 60479-1 for "Effects of current on human beings and livestock". Any acts has its own risks. My point is that any risks need to be assessed scientifically. The assessment may be varied by each persons. That's fine as long as it is the outcome of scientific process.

What "scientific process" do you recommend for such e-stim?

Not just yelling "XmA is danger". Better thinking what really XmA means QUANTITATIVELY. As I stated, duration needs to be taken into account. Waiting for opinions about Figure 20 and Figure 21 in IEC TS 60479-1. The model is not nipple to nipple though.

I vote for keeping it. This is not something I would ever do, but this is something that some people will think about. Zity is indexed on Google, and it seems like a good idea to have as much rational, honest, calm discussions of safety as possible come up when people search for information on a dangerous activity.

THE THREAD IS STAYING

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This thread is a warning to others NOT to attempt this.

NOTE TO SELF...

do not play with electricity close to my heart

Wow - this is fascinating! I only have limited experience with e-stim. The idea that stimulating around the heart could cause a problem hadn't occurred to me. I'm glad I joined and I'm glad I happened to come across the thread!

Maybe this is why the "Cross my heart hope to die " saying came to be as an electrician was always warned to be cautious of the electrical path past HEART

I have no experience with a TENS unit, but I do have a Violet Wand. When the probe is held against the skin, it electrifies the entire body, meaning a touch or kiss anywhere produces a shock to both parties. Once while playing with another couple, The other woman had the probe and while her partner was eating and fucking her, me and my girl were licking and kissing her nipples, causing sparks every time we pulled away. It was quite fun and She really liked it!

I saw a skilled player put suction cups full of saline on both of someone's nipples and have each electrified. said it was not a problem and it wasn't. n that case. but I don't recommend it and wouldn't do it. Too many safer ways to have fun.

stay away from the heart. seems simple.

Damn, i sure wouldn't play around my heart (or anyone else's) with E-Stim.

Our hearts, more specifically our heart contractions (beats), are an electrical event. If we cut a persons head off, their heart would still beat (for a little bit, till it ran out of blood). That's because the heart is a self contained, electrically operated, muscle. Our heart is sort of like a race horse that wants to run fast, it's connected to some sensors in the aortic arch (for instance) that send signals to the brain to speed it up or slow it down. The brain is sort of like the jockey on a a race horse.

We have a primary 'pacer' in our right atrium called the SA node (kind of like the bit in a horses mouth, it's where our brain connects to the heart neurologically) and that initiates our hearts contraction/beat. The heart (and body) has some redundancy built into it and the right atrium has many similar nodes in it (aka: "automaticity foci") that can/will take over if the SA node fails. Heart contraction/beat ia a very intricate process, a process of ion exchange at an individual cellular level. When it's right, it all happens in concert, and it is all electrically motivated. We use devices called "external pacemakers" to help temporarily regulate peoples hearts that are not functioning "right" or effectively. The settings are in mA, not completely unlike a TENS unit.

There's no way one can explain the complexity of it all in a short paragraph, but playing around the heart with electricity is sort of like playing around gasoline with fire, get it 'right' and you'll have an explosion.

BTW, all those shows we see on TV where a person flat lines on an EKG and they shock the heart? That's the opposite of what we really do. A "flat line" on an EKG equals no electrical activity at all, we do compressions for that. We shock hearts to stop them, not start them. We do it when there is dysrhythmia to try and reset the heart to a life sustaining rhythm.

Placement is critical. You can use two isolated circuits for each nipple. But you now have a dual output unit for one experience. So If you use a quad wire set in one out let. You have each nipple on the same circuit. A ground and a positive for each nipple. the trick is to keep both circuits in place. If a ground or positive pad drops off, then the circuit is picked up by the opposite side meaning currant runs near or through the heart. So I use sticky pads on the underside of the breast and let the breast weight hold it in place. I use spring clamps on the nipples. If a connection comes loose turn off the power before reattaching. Remember you are using low power micro waves. You can cause minor burns. 😡

The most painful e-stim on the nipples I have ever had was using a Olympian piezoelectric sparking furnace lighter. My husband punished me that way when I was mummified in 2018 a week before Thanksgiving for having an “unapproved” orgasm given to me by friend Beth in the middle of the night. You can buy them at Wal-Mart, Amazon and Home Depot. https://en.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=108193

https://www.amazon.com/Camco-57533-Olympian-Multi-Sparker/dp/B000EDSTAG/ref=asc_df_B000EDSTAG/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312089957955&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9045275771134748316&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=200511&hvtargid=pla-490596352059&psc=1

I've tried nipple estim with pads and clamps. Not really a fantastic sensation. My nipples are extremely sensitive. What turns me on the most is a Violet Wand. The snap of the arc and the pinpoint accuracy is a major turn on. My nipples turn rock hard and seem to dance on my chest.