Transgender play.

Hi all.

I wonder whether any of the other members of this site have ever played with post-op transgender people.

I've met a few at my local swingers club, a couple of pre-op ones too, and have had the good fortune to play with 3 post-op ladies so far. I have to admit that the first time I was asked to play I was somewhat hesitant, not quite knowing what to expect, but have found that modern surgery techniques are such that you would scarcely see any difference so each occasion has been a thoroughly pleasant one. For both of us.

I'd be interested in hearing other people's thoughts and experiences.

I've always loved anal eroticism and my transition from butt plugs, to dildos, to pegging naturally had me curious about experiencing real cock. I started watching tranny porn and started to find the idea increasingly a turn on. I decided to suck my first trans cock in Feb this year and haven't look back. Whilst most of my relationships are heterosexual, increasingly I'm turning to trannies to pound my anus and satisfy my anal desires. Knowing how awesome real cock is now, I now find nothing sexier than a sexy T-girl with a smooth cock. I'm now addicted to trannies and need to suck tranny cock on an increasingly regular basis. I'd consider myself mostly straight, but I'm definitely openly gay for T-girl cock exclusively.

Unless they admit so, how could one realistically know who is post-op transgender or not? Since as you say, operative techniques are so advanced, how to tell?

I live in a fairly large city and have on occasion seen obvious cross-dressers/pre-op transgenders on the streets in public. There were small signs that made them stand out like height, a certain muscular build, a facial configuration that stood out somehow (Adam's apple maybe).

But there must be many transgender people who I would not even recognize as such, should I encounter them.

I can be friends with anybody and I have had homosexual relationships.

BUT . . .

If I were a [straight] guy dating someone who appeared to be a girl, I would expect them to have a vagina.

Trans people have to be open about their trans nature right from the start in a non-platonic relationship.

What's between the legs matters.

What's between the legs matters.

I wonder if it is all that important if the rest of the person is convincingly feminine in appearance. I would guess from the rising popularity of transgender videos and such, that many men can easily overlook whichever kind of genitals is between the legs. What they look for and like, is a total and convincing feminine appearance for the rest of the body and probably demeanor. The gender ambiguity being a titillating sweetener on the side, but also easily overlooked.

When a man dates a woman (NOT a platonic friendship), he expects her to have a vagina, NOT a penis.

When a man dates a woman (NOT a platonic friendship), he expects her to have a vagina, NOT a penis.

Yeah that is right. If somebody thinks they are with the opposite sex they are expecting genitals of the opposite sex too. How could a straight man not be annoyed when he finds out his woman has a penis and not a pussy? I do not get how anybody could think it would not matter and it is just being dishonest to hide that.

I think we have talked about this before on another topic as well.

When a man dates a woman (NOT a platonic friendship), he expects her to have a vagina, NOT a penis.

There is no reason the first thing out of your mouth should be explaining your transition, or your genitalia. Get to know the person first and then broach the subject if you both want a relationship, but you should be honest before being physical with your partner.

Switchablesusie said

When a man dates a woman (NOT a platonic friendship), he expects her to have a vagina, NOT a penis.

JR3 said

There is no reason the first thing out of your mouth should be explaining your transition, or your genitalia. Get to know the person first and then broach the subject if you both want a relationship, but you should be honest before being physical with your partner.

If you are going to be dating someone for a personal/intimate relationship where sex will be involved, you should tell the other person right away. As I said earlier, I can be friends with anyone and their sex doesn't matter, but if I am going to be in a relationship where sexual relations is going to occur, I want to know right off the bat what genitals the person has.

I don't think what is between a person's legs is going to come up on the first dates discussion list. But somewhere in the beginning period of the relationship it will have to come up before sexual intercourse can happen (if it comes up when in the heat of the moment it could have a very different outcome). The person with the female "look/feel" will know when it is the right time to bring up the subject. Atleast I would hope so. Otherwise the relationship will not go any farther.

NO. The subject should come up immediately.

Why should a person who is genuinely, sincerely looking for an intimate relationship have to waste a single dime dating someone who isn't what they appear to be?

Because not all relationships start out with the intent of being sexual. They may end up there, but starting out they weren't.

Blurting out "I have a penis and boobs" on the first meeting just doesn't seem to be the proper statement to make.

If the "other party" is not already aware the person they are about to date is trans, the trans person should say something like, "you should know I'm transgender" before they even go out on the first date.

But @MissStress do you not think it would be wrong to let somebody start to fall in love before telling them? If they get told right away it will stop them getting hurt as much.

I'm not going as far as they are falling in love. I am saying when first getting to know each other it is not the first thing you are going to tell someone about yourself. Being friends, getting know each other where most relationships start (yes I know some do have sex on the first date). That is where my comments are from.

It will happen when things are getting a bit more towards the getting serious. Not just in the "would you like to have a cup of coffee with me" staqe.

It's like with a fetish/kink. You don't just blurt it out on the first meeting. "I like to be fucked hard with a strap on", "I like to get enemas", or "I like to be examined and probed by a "doctor" *wink, wink". You don't tell your fetish/kink on the first meetings. It comes up later when you see things are going towards the more serious side of a relationship.

My point is the other party might not even want to go out with a trans person had they known in the first place--and they deserve to know before hand.

This trans chick (really a guy) is out of her (his) mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b1taoO978Y

Then they will just have to deal with their disappointment for liking the person they saw. Not the person that they physically are at that moment.

if I am going to be in a relationship where sexual relations is going to occur,

How does anyone know where things can go when you meet someone? People who are already married or in a stable relationship, meet others all the time and neither know how things will evolve over time. Simple friends end up in a sexual relationship all the time without the intent being there originally.

One of the obvious is meeting people at work. How can anyone predict what will happen? And I seriously hope the expectation isn't that all co-workers are immediately introduced to their new co-worker as being transgender.

it would be wrong to let somebody start to fall in love .

Please tell me how to do that. I don't think people 'let' others fall in love (or lust for that matter). Things just happen.

OMFG.

If you go out on a DATE it's because you want to form some kind of relationship. If it's a personal, intimate relationship you are after, you have to know BEFORE you go out if the person is trans. They CANNOT assume it will be OK with you.

If you are just going out for lunch while at work, you don't need to know.

Having had a date with a trans gender woman, I can tell you that certain cues tell you what to expect in advance.

Ask if they can write their name in the snow while peeing. 😎

If you go out on a DATE it's because you want to form some kind of relationship.

I don't want to get into a language thing again, but am I to assume then that at this present time and era, that (in the US?), going out on a date is the same as was meant with 'going courting' in previous times? That meanings have evolved over time?

Because, otherwise, I thought people went on lunch dates, movie dates, dinner dates, tennis dates and what not all. I regularly go with (female) friends to movies or on occasion to a café or a walk or to a flea market in another city together. In my mind I call that having a date together and except in my fantasy and imagination, there is no question of any of this evolving into a relation relationship, no expectations of romance/sex.

So if these aren't dates, what are they then?

. . . . am I to assume then that at this present time and era, that (in the US?), going out on a date is the same as was meant with 'going courting' in previous times? . . . .

YES.

A "date" would be "going courting."

If you're doing that the other person has to know.

Yeah a "date" is not just friends hanging out together or something but it is always romantic @agracier. That is what it means in Britain too.

I clearly need to clarify my earlier point. If someone came up to me in a bar, a typical place to meet a potential sexual partner, and said "Hi my name's Julie, but just to let you know I was born with a cock. Can I buy you a drink?" I would think that person is totally insane. I can be as crude as anyone but the first thing out of your mouth should not be about your dick, or lack thereof.

So give whatever pick up line, have the drink with the person, talk about whatever 'normal' crap comes up, books, music, etc. Ask them out again, but point out you're trans. If they're an asshole going to freak out and start saying transphobic crap to you, you should have realized they were an asshole BEFORE you asked them out. If they politely decline because you're trans, then that's fine, their choice. I don't think anyone is going to fall in love over one drink.

Ask if they can write their name in the snow while peeing. 😎

From her "peeing while standing posts" I bet Amethyst could do that!

From her "peeing while standing posts" I bet Amethyst could do that!

Well it is not easy but yeah. I can do it but my writing is not very good because I have to move a lot more of my body around than just wave a penis about!

Women know how to wiggle their hips!