Beth Tyler Closing Down!

This has been a lovely web site for years. Being censored by Big Banks (whom we all love so much.)

Crazy this is happening during Democratic Obama Administration.

http://www.myenemates.com/bt-home.shtml.html

That is just what we need; large credit card companies performing censorship. Thanks a lot Visa and MasterCard.

The problem with the banks is hitting the firearms industry too. More and more big banks are refusing to process firearms, ammunition, and related business credit card sales.

the hoseman1

That is a shame. But the problem is not with banks per se. The problem is that banks are reacting to changes in how society in general views certain activities.

Society has for quite some time now, been becoming more and more prudish and easily takes offense at many kinds of sensual and erotic activities that years ago were considered acceptable and normal. There is always a backlash against social trends: the straight-laced 40s and 50s after the Roaring 20s, the now present new Puritanism after the sexually liberal decades in the 70s and 80s ...

That said, it should be deplored, but how to face the rising tide of social pressure? This kind of thing rarely works with legislation. The general attitude has to change.

I guess this is the same thing that happened to the early Yahoo Enema groups, and the ning groups also. In the morning when you turn on the computer, you never know which groups will be there and which ones the politicians have removed.

I would certainly hope there is a way they can't touch this group.

Dan

I am astonished upon this brutal and crude form of a censorship in your country.

I am astonished upon this brutal and crude form of a censorship in your country.

Sometimes I am astonished it hasn't been starting much earlier ...

And besides, from what I can make of it, it seems to be a unilateral decision by banks themselves, not the result of legislation as such. Something more along the line of redefining definitions of what is or what is not public decency or immorality. You know that of all the many institutions that make up a society, banks are among the most conservative minded of all. They will risk billions in trading deals or whatever, but refuse to touch a dollar of what might be construed to be sexually immoral ...

For instance UKGyn, a sister site, also had trouble and frozen assets with their Paypal account ...

The Beth Tyler site is tame by what you see on the Internet now. And what they sell is garden variety stuff sold on thousands of websites. So if the banks are systematically going to choose not to do business with these sites, then you can be sure the marketplace will react and the banks will be out maneuvered.

If there is a demand for something, it will ultimately survive- the banks can't stop it. And the business the banks choose to pass on will quickly been seen as an opportunity for another group to step in and do what the banks do.

And this is pure speculation but I wonder if this really is a case of censorship. If the Beth Tyler site may have gotten into some financial trouble with the banks, the banks maybe choosing to discontinue doing business with the site and she is calling it censorship. I have no basis for this thought, but you have to wonder. Banks are as greedy as you can get and I find it hard to believe they are putting morality over profits.

Our country is doing flip flops. Credit cards are preforming censorship while the politically correct crowd advocate that it's a person's right to choose which bathroom they use irregardless of gender.

I visited the real owner and the real Beth in Connecticut in the early 1970s to help him get set up and duplicate some of the first movies. At the time he was located just north of Hartford, CT. They survived being busted for an allegedly under aged model they had recruited from the University of Connecticut. I believe they got the charges dropped because the model had used a false ID. The film was taken out of distribution, and luckily they survived what was a very tough time.

To be honest I never understood the move to Texas, that would not be a state I would want to try to distribute enema movies from. And I wonder if that is the issue now?

The real Beth left the owner years ago, for what reason I never was told.

He was a pioneer, with real enemas, not the faked stuff coming out of California. I still enjoy some of his early productions the best.

While it isn't what it had been, and hasn't since he died, those of us that had very little to enjoy until Beth Tyler came along really appreciate what he did for us to enjoy.

I call b.s. on this thread. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of credit card processors in the United States and PayPal is just a convenient way of one person sending in money to another. A PayPal account is not tied to a website but rather to an email address. I have no idea why this person is shutting down their website but there could be lots of reasons, or they suffer from what some people call Obama derangement syndrome, or conspiracy theorist syndrome where they imagine that the big government is out to get them. Remember that this website has been owned and operated by several individuals over the last 15 years and for one reason or another the previous individuals have given up the site as well

I would certainly hope there is a way they can't touch this group.

Dan

I wouldn't worry too much about anyone truly finding Zity an offensive site or immoral. If you look at the posts, many of them are about present day moral, social, philosophical, legal and personal issues. We spend as much time explaining and debating the various forms of health care systems as we do on talking about 'kinks' or other sexual matters. Maybe even more, and certainly in quite some depth too. The same goes on the advantages or disadvantages of corporal punishments, often in couched in moral terms.

And the language is always very prim and proper too. Sometimes I'm not even sure I'd call Zity a sex site at all. Sexual education site seems more like it sometimes, as if we are all in a sort of more or less supervised group session conducted by an invisible, virtual hand of Internet wizardry ... with some supervising by very level-headed moderators.

Our Department of Justice has been harassing porn companies and porn stars through banks for a few years now.

DOJ's 'Operation Choke Point' May Be Root of Porn Star Bank Account Closings

http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/28/doj-operation-chokepoint-and-porn-stars

Lincster45: The original person who was "Beth Tyler" died a few years ago (3 or 4.) The current person took over the site from the original owner.

I think we might be getting a bit too worked up about censoring the Internet or a site like Beth Tyler. It isn't going to happen because the Internet is too de-centralized. What Beth Tyler's site offered will be popping up or already is on other sites. The Internet has far too many moving parts for any government or bank to control.

It seems that bits and pieces of correct information are posted in this thread. Anika Stern made an effort to keep Myenemates viable. If my recollection serves me correctly, our own LindaMarie also made an effort to keep the Tyler connection alive and well before passing the nozzle to Anika. That being in spite of the unfortunate demise of those who founded the original "Beth Tyler" efforts. The costs were likely prohibitive.

It must be a difficult endeavor to keep these sites functional. The name itself may have been a red flag to those who may be motivated to censor or pass judgment on content. There was a time when Beth Tyler references were a sure fire way to connect with those interested in enema play. The Tyler Family Reunion may be the last holdover.

It's a shame that enema's evoke such a negative reaction in many people. If they only realized the simple pleasures most of us enjoy!

Interesting the banks that brought the economic crash in 2008 causing people to lose their homes and jobs are now talking about morals.

I don't think Beth Tyler died. Beth's ex husband Ron died. I don't think anyone knows what happened to Beth after she divorced Ron.

Mizz Lenka notes :

Interesting the banks that brought the economic crash in 2008 causing people to lose their homes and jobs are now talking about morals.

Big Banks don't have morals ...They have shareholders (investors) = shareholders demand profits through dividends. . .not to mention their staggering CEO salary packages to ensure maximum profiteering. . .So they buy out smaller banks to create monopolies. . .that is immoral

Not that far removed from the practices of other Corporate organizations of whom many would be familiar. .Pharmaceutical manufacturer's being just one

"Premier" financial institutions retain top legal representation so it remains that way. . .the cost is always borne by the consumer in the form of levies

It's Just Business - like it or not

I don't think Beth Tyler died. Beth's ex husband Ron died. I don't think anyone knows what happened to Beth after she divorced Ron.

Ron remarried and his second wife was from, IIRC, Indonesia, and she took on the nom de plume "Beth". I corresponded with her briefly. Then I met Ron at the first Florida EFest ( http://www.floridaefest.org/ ) in 2004, and he explained a lot to me and, while he didn't tell me his real name, he did say that his surname's not "Tyler". He was, FYI, always wearing some patriotic tee-shirt and I have a vague recollection that his political leaning was to the right. Whether or not either of them has died I do not know; I never again went to the EFest, BTW..

Ron's second wife announced that Ron had died. A few months later, Linda Marie took over Beth Tyler.

Thanks for the update!

Ron's second wife announced that Ron had died. Linda Marie took over Beth Tyler.

You're quite welcome, Sophia.

Don't believe everything you read. There are literally hundreds of hard core porno sites that depend on credit card transactions, Several, like "Everything Butt" include anal and enema content. Why are we so quick to look for Government conspiracies, when the truth is often that individuals like Linda Marie were just not "into it" and wanted to retire.

Incidentally, Ron and his wife , the owners of Klystra enema equipment also closed recently in order to pursue other interests. So...PLEASE!, Let's leave the wild conspiracy theories to those Waco second amendment guys.

Ron and his wife didn't own Klystra, but they knew and often worked with the gentleman who did. Many items sold from the Beth Tyler site were marked as Klystra, which adds to the confusion.

The cost of having a new item produced isn't small. Very often the two companies would pool resources to have tooling made for a particular item, and once made they both would sell the item. A good example of this is the copies of the JBL cascade. They were all stamped "Klystra" even if they weren't bought from Klystra.

Doc

@docinny45 - Correct & thank you doc. .The son / son in law continued to operate Klystra after it's founder died. .Then he too struggled from deteriorating health bringing Klystra to an end. .Caveman produced nozzles for Beth

Such a shame. Beth Tyler's website was the first one I discovered when I finally got online back in the nineties. It was the place where I discovered that I wasn't the only one out there who had an enema fetish. I contributed several stories and bought most of my enema equipment there. It will be missed.

Sorry to hear of the site going down. Does anyone post the list of the people in the various cities that still do enemas? I think they were listed as "Professional Help".

Grateful for Beth Tyler when I was a young fetish nut who thought I was alone in this kink.

I've purchased many bags and nozzles from the Beth Tyler site over the years. Unfortunately my JBL sprung a leak, probably from over-use. I hope to purchase another one. Like others have said, the Beth Tyler site was my first exposure to quality enema gear. The site certainly enhanced my enema experience.