New York City to allow public Peeing

It was reported today, that the New York City Council will be voting to permit public peeing in the city. At least this will wash the dirty city streets

Srithanonchai said

It was reported today, that the New York City Council will be voting to permit public peeing in the city. At least this will wash the dirty city streets

THAT ISN'T AT ALL WHAT THE NEW PROPOSAL IS.

READ THIS:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/24/nyc-set-to-stop-enforcing-law-against-peeing-on-sidewalks-because-racism/

The purpose is to decriminalize the act. Offenders are often minorities or upstanding citizens on their way home or to a hotel but badly need a bathroom and there aren't any around, so they hide behind a dumpster and urinate and get arrested. Under the old rules, you will have a lifelong record of public urination which will show up on any background check that may be done when you are applying for a job or other position.

Interesting how trends go ... several years ago in Belgium, a law was enacted that allowed municipalities to fine offenders of low level nuisance offenses without having to go through the justice system. In practice that meant that for these offenses, not only police officers, but also appointed municipal officials are now allowed to take note of and write out fines. These officials can be civil servants or anyone appointed and are not in uniform. And the fines do not go through the courts, it's like being ticketed by a 'meter maid'.

Many municipalities really abuse this law and fine anything from shouting on the streets, playing music in public, throwing snowballs, using marijuana (this goes over big with the law & order types) and public urination as well, with instances known of officials following people going into a wooded area to urinate and then writing out a fine ...

Wow Agracier, that's crazy. That's a little "big brotherish", while there are not cameras able to see everything, there are people watching in real time. I am not sure which is worse.

You know, there have been an occasion or two during my life where I had to spit outside, bug flew in my mouth for example. Does it make it any less gross or inappropriate, no it doesn't at all, but I sure wouldn't want to have to worry about getting a ticket because I didn't want to swallow a bug for example.

I am surprised you guys are not screaming at the top of your lungs to the government over that. Geeze.

Mashie

I am told that according to the laws of Pennsylvania that urinating in public, behind a dumpster or a tree or where ever, if you are caught on a camera it is considered exposing yourself in public. You will be arrested and convicted and put on Megans list as a sex offender.

Being in NYC and having to pee sucks unless you already inside an establishment where you plan to spend time. If you try to go inside places, they want restrooms to be "for customers only". Being stuck in gridlock traffic, finding parking, and just finding a place to empty your bladder can be tough. Sometimes you really wish there were outhouses or porto potties on some street corners.

But i have a way of coping. Always carry an empty wide mouth canister in the trunk. Survival of a full bladder

Wow Agracier, that's crazy. That's a little "big brotherish", while there are not cameras able to see everything, there are people watching in real time. I am not sure which is worse.

There are a lot of cameras in our city. The police and authorities have gone wild over cameras on CCTV because they are so cheap to operate compared to having real police patrolling the streets. I walk around a lot on graffiti hunts and picture taking and so I take a bit more care and effort when looking around. You can see cameras in the most unlikely and likely places.

When the camera placing started there was a (small) movement that tried to disable them by spray painting the lenses. The authorities came down on them like a ton of bricks. A Belgian version of Homeland Security thugs more or less. Much depends on municipal coalitions though. The right-wingers go overboard with the law and order stuff and do their best to annoy minorities and act tough on petty stuff like pot use or graffiti ...

My comment about washing the dirty city streets was said with tongue in cheek.

Hi All,

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There was a time as "Mardi Gras" grew down in New Orleans, there came a point where finding a place to "PEE!!" got to be too Much!!!" There is even a song "There's No Place To Pee In New Orleans On Mardi Gras Day!!!!" Well the "City" Came to the Rescue now on all the Parade Routes and around they have placed an abundance of "Porta' Potties!!!!!" BTW "Mardi Gras Is 09 FEBRUARY this year.........just 2 weeks from right now!!!!!

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highwater

My comment about washing the dirty city streets was said with tongue in cheek.

My statement was NOT about that. It was about PERMITTING public urination. The proposed new rules do NOT permit public urination. They lessen the penalties.

Mashi I can't get your point of view. Are you against lessening the penalty or for it?

Agracier I don't know what to say about that crazy law of being caught on camera while peeing in public.

Laws are there everywhere, but enforcement is another thing.

I guess the best way to tackle the issue is to take a positive step by making more toilets for public use than to pensalize people for attending nature's call.

It still won't stop it but it's definitely better than all the legal hassle and other nonsense.

Oh! And I just read that article and it's again about providing better services to the underprivileged and maintaining these facilities.

Prosecution won't ever solve any problem. It is just a method of satisfying one group or parties ego or anger or hatred.

Oh! And I just read that article and it's again about providing better services to the underprivileged and maintaining these facilities.

Back in the 60s, there were still a fair number of public urinals for men in the city. Not an abundance, but enough to get by once you knew where they were located. But bit by bit they were dismantled because of various reasons: no one really wanted to clean them out or do the maintenance and also café owners thought they would profit from people coming in for a quick pee, who then wouldn't dare not consume anything.

And oddly, please don't laugh, politicians often point out that strictly speaking, the law demands that you allow someone to use your WC if they ask. So in theory, should you dare, you are within rights to ring a doorbell and ask to use the owner's facilities ...

Naturally that doesn't happen, who would let a stranger into their house for that or any other reason? But even so, there are politicians who like to air this little known oddball legal particularity whenever people complain about the lack of public restrooms, mostly I think as a sort of Schadenfreude, like giving the finger to the public ...

To answer your question, I am against all the cameras as well as the live people, spies, watching and reporting. We already have enough government nosing into our lives as it is. I have always believed in the saying that "turn about is fair play". So if they can watch us whenever they want, we should be able to watch them whenever we want.

Mashie

This thread brings to my mind the episode of Seinfeld when Kramer strongly urges Jerry to urinate in a corner of the parking garage they are in. "I have uromisatisis".... Jerry ends up in trouble. Later, George gets in trouble for urinating to.

AG,

Try standing in line at the Post Office in the morning after a couple of cups of coffee, and get to the point where you need a 'water closet', and they will politely, and maybe not so politely, decline your visit to the facility.

YET, it would seem that WE own the facility...

Yes?

I have pee'd in parks and sometimes "accidentally" got caught by single friendly men that wanted to do more than watch. I always apologies for my behavior and most men don't mind. If they hang around after that I will "accidentally" flash them my bra I'm wearing and if they still stick around they are usually grabbing their crotch......

To answer your question, I am against all the cameras as well as the live people, spies, watching and reporting. We already have enough government nosing into our lives as it is. I have always believed in the saying that "turn about is fair play". So if they can watch us whenever they want, we should be able to watch them whenever we want.

Mashie

My husband keeps his 128 gig iPhone 6 plus in his shirt pocket with the camera facing outward and it's ALWAYS recording. He speeds through it at night keeping sound and video clips that he feels might be of interest later and storing them on his computer.