The Retention of 4 Quart Enemas for an extended period

A number of members of this Forum have claimed to regularly take enemas of 4 quarts and to retain them for as long as one hour.

As a long time sufferer of IBS, I find that taking in 4 quarts is difficult enough to achieve, without having to hold this large amount for longer than a few minutes. I take this at night and I find that aiming for a full gallon, which I don’t always achieve on the first try, gives me the most lasting relief from my symptoms of bloating and painful cramps during the next day.

I feel that even for those who don’t have IBS, holding a full gallon with or without a balloon retention nozzle for one hour, must take a lot of practice and considerable willpower.

I would be very interested to know what motivates anyone to endure the discomfort of such a large volume enema for so long.

I know that some mothers have expressed how proud they are when their children have held 2 quart enemas for ten or fifteen minutes. Perhaps these children when they become adults experience a sense of achievement when they have exceeded their childhood volumes and retention times?

It has often been claimed that the retention of full enemas for as long as possible, can produce results at home which are equivalent to professional colonic irrigations. Is a more thorough cleansing the motivating factor for these experienced enema users?

(Note: IBS sufferers are known to have abnormally low serotonin levels.)

For those who do not have IBS, I know that the distension of the colon walls will increase the serotonin levels, which can lead to a feeling of euphoria and pain reduction. Some enlightened neurologists have recognized the benefits of colon cleansing in relieving the symptoms of migraine headaches and depression. Perhaps these effects are the main motivating factor for those who enjoy holding these full enemas for one hour?

This is very dangerous!!

Your body WILL absorb a certain amount.

Whether that is enough to send you into cardio overload and cause cardiac arrest is never quite clear.

Very few people can remain still enough for an hour to retain 4 qts for that long without the bowel rupturing. Assuming it doesn't rupture during injection.

In any of the 3 scenarios, make sure you have 911 on speed dial and leave your phone ON, so that there is at least some chance for you.

I'll do the Darwin Award nomination!!

Lisa, it isn't dangerous at all to retain enemas for a prolonged period.

I don't know where you get your ideas in physiology.

If retaining one 4 quart enema (and you have said the same thing about retaining enemas in general in the past) for an hour was a problem, people who have colonic irrigations would be ending up in the emergency room or dead.

Obviously that isn't happening.

Never quite understood the attraction of those gut-busting enemas....probably because my peak enjoyment level max's out at about 2 1/2 quarts. After that, it's no longer that warm, comfortable, erotic pressure I so much enjoy. But, as my grandmother used to say, "to each their own"....

I only started doing this very recently, and moved up from my usual 2.5-3 quarts to doing 4 a couple of times and even 5 quarts just once. I just let the 2nd bag go in till I was too full for more and wound up with the whole 5 in without any problem. Obviously I was extremely full and distended, but nothing painful or I would have immediately stopped. I only held onto the 5 for perhaps 10 minutes, but the second time I did 4 I timed it and really had an extremely enjoyable time holding for 25-30 minutes. These were all done with nice warm normal saline. If I'd had the time and interest, I would have had no trouble holding the 4 quarts for another 30 minutes or more if I'd had something to relax with like a book, TV program or tablet. I have no competitive interests in enemas, but after reading about these sorts of things here I do find it interesting and enjoyable to try some new things just for my own enjoyment.

Just got a 5 qt bag to try. My first attempt, I mixed a bicarbonate solution and with my hips raised on my back, I took about 3/4 of it. I was wondering if the solution should be at least "isotonic"? I may not have had enough of the bicarbonate in solution and might should have added some salt to it as well. The retention part was about 35 minutes. Still it was a fairly good cleaning. I agree with ericmacson about no competitive interests. My desire is to heighten pleasure and enjoyment.

I like taking four quarts too, but I can't hold that much very long, at least not on the first enema. Being that full is a wonderful feeling and always makes me cum.

SwitchableSusie, you're completely correct, and LisaK, not at all. The colon and small intestine are very elastic and, tho they may protest, are fully capable in an adult of accommodating large, long retention en enemas. Their being isotonicly equal to the salinity of our blood reasonably insures that much water is not absorbed thru intestinal walls, thus minimizing electrolyte imbalances and headaches due to increased bloodstream volume.

I did 4 quarts once, salt added for electrolyte balance with a double balloon inserted. Did not hold it for long (5-10 minutes) and it was after 2 previous clean-outs.

Do be safe. hugs, rick in Austin

While I regularly take 4 qts and more, I spend at least a half-hour filling myself and do not feel like lying there for an hour in addition. After perhaps ten minutes, I get bored.

hankb

Maybe Howard has finally hit on something that I agree with. We know that 70% of total serotonin in the body is stored in the large bowel. People with depression and some with migraines respond well to oral meds containing serotonin. It would make sense to try to stimulate the area with 70% to release some of it to get it to the brain. No controlled studies that I know of, but sounds like something some scientific types might well try and see if it works.

Several folks on this board have claimed relaxation and a sense of well being. Sounds like something biochemical of after taking enemas may be happening to me.

I didnt know they made 4 qt bags

I have never been able to take a four quart enema at one time. I can take several two quart enemas, so in total I can take four quarts or more, usually three series of two, for a total of six quarts. However, there is no way that I could hold even a two quart enema for a full hour, maybe 20 minutes on a good day.

Rainy Jane, they make four quart bags, but you have to to specialty internet sites to get one. I have two of them 😃

Rainyjane: check out amazon.. Good prices of 4 quart enemas

Absolutely AMAZED that anyone could take and hold four quarts at one time!

Redbag--taking two 2qt enemas does not equal one 4qt enema. Your colon is not as distended and the water may not get in as far. With a 4qt, you can be fairly certain that the water gets as far as the cecum.

taragon--all i ever take is at least 4qts, usually closer to 5qts, I think. Sometimes I can retain it for some time, but others I need to expel it fairly quickly. Since all I ever use is plain tap water, I cannot tell you why the difference.

I have never tried to retain my water for an hour because I do not see the benefit in doing so, and because I have other things to do besides lying around with a belly full of water and something stuck up my ass.

I have learned that I need to fill slowly to avoid getting cramps--5-10 minutes per quart. I regulate the flow by having an adjustable clamp on the hose and a flow rate indicator so that I know how fast it is going in.

hankb

I can only do 2 quarts myself and hold it for about 15 min. Before I feel like I'm going to explode.

I usually take 2 qts and most of the time I can hold it for as long as I want

I have taken a few 4 qts ones

I can hold the very long and I have to be slow and careful when I head for toilet so I don't expel all over the floor

I only do the 4 qt once in awhile because it takes me forever to expel all of it

LisaK says:

Darwin award time!!!

This can lead to too much absorption, and cardiac arrest!!

Switchablesusie says:

Lisa, it isn't dangerous at all to retain enemas for a prolonged period.

I don't know where you get your ideas in physiology.

If retaining one 4 quart enema (and you have said the same thing about retaining enemas in general in the past) for an hour was a problem, people who have colonic irrigations would be ending up in the emergency room or dead.

Obviously that isn't happening.

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I agree with Switchablesusie

I just now finished a 4 quart warm saline enema which I held very easily for 30-35 minutes with a DBCatheter inflated. I could have easily held it for an hour or more as it was so soothing and comfortable and I really love the feel of a big distended belly (no pain or cramps, just nice fullness). I've done this any number of times with no problems and great enjoyment. Perhaps obviously, I also agree with Susie (#3) about retentions. I prefer them to multiple sequential enemas just because it's fairly easy to irritate my anal/rectal tissues, but that may change as I do more frequent enemas and "practice" more.

Eric

By the time a four quart enema is inside of me i cannot hold it for too long usually. but sometimes i can and it gives me this funny lightheaded feeling and a bit of dizziness. not uncomfortable, just unusual. but i don't think i'll ever be able to hold a full gallon for one hour. i think i might have done 20 minutes at the most. although sometimes i set it to very slow and some gallons take an hour to finish, so that has to count for something, right?

I've never really tried to retain a four-quart enema for as much as an hour. Generally speaking, I'll retain mine for about 15 minutes or so to give it time to really do a thorough job. However, I do enjoy multiple enemas in a session, and thus, my retention times tend to be shorter so that I can move on to the next one.

Now that I have my KGL-1 silicone nozzle, the pleasure of retention has grown since I can do Kegel exercises while retaining the enema and nozzle (and it gives me something else on which to focus). However, anytime I elect to retain an enema for any extended period of time, I make sure to use a saline solution so absorption is minimized and I can avoid the lightheaded feeling that comes with retaining a plain tap water enema.

Have fun and play safe!

Deb

Debgurl,

.............However, anytime I elect to retain an enema for any extended period of time, I make sure to use a saline solution so absorption is minimized and I can avoid the lightheaded feeling that comes with retaining a plain tap water enema.

Have fun and play safe!

Deb

I do the same, especially since my innards down low are more sensitive than most, and I prefer large enemas retained a longer time vs. multiple smaller ones. Almost all of my retained 3-4.5 quart enemas are either saline or saline plus Castile soap (1 tsp/q), retained for usually 30-40 minutes. With that soap level, I never feel the need to rinse with plain water. It still feels fine without any irritation. Just by happenstance, I seem to be taking more enemas than usual this year, just for pleasure, and I may be able to "practice" my way to being able to enjoy multiple enemas in a day as my anorectal tissues get more recent experience.

Eric

I posted earlier on this thread but just went back to read the OP who with others talked about colonic serotonin release. I can honestly say that my motivation for learning to take and then hold 4-4.5 quart enemas over the last year is purely from physical and mental enjoyment of the feelings it produces. I just truly enjoy the process of taking and holding a warm enema, regardless of reasons. It's been that way since I was a teenager and not because anyone said it might be fun (that came much later). Learning to increase from my longtime previous usual volume of 2.5 quarts up to 4-4.5 really didn't take much except for 1) using a DBC and 2) learning to relax and let the balloon do most of the work during very low pushing urges (distinct from cramps). I have no real idea if the pleasantness and mild euphoria that comes after a large, especially long-retained enema involves serotonin or not. However, I've been on SSRI and TCA antidepressants for many years without much beneficial effect and a lot of extremely annoying sexual side effects. I can honestly say I feel better for a time after doing a long, large enema than anything I have ever felt taking antidepressants. In fact, as a result of SSRI and TCA failure, I'm about to switch today to a much older class of antidepressants to see if it does me any good, and I'm in the process of investigating how to obtain and be treated with a new, novel investigational antidepressant as soon as possible, hopefully later this year. So going forward, I'll pay more attention to my pleasant, relaxed euphoric state and how long it lasts after a large long enema. Stranger things have occurred in medical research than a correlation between enema (time X volume) and antidepressant effects.

Eric

Eric, I'll be interested to hear about your progress. I'm on two ADs, and look forward to the day I no longer need them.

Dr. Eric, when we were in training to sell antidepressants, we were told that over 70% of serotonin was housed in the large bowel and only about 10% in the brain. During a break from class room, I asked the RPh instructor if stimulating the large bowel might not cause more serotonin to reach the brain, via the bloodstream. He shut me down by saying that we were in the business of selling A/D tablets, not enema bags. He never answered my question.

ˆˆˆThat's VERY interesting.

Yes, repressed and jimmy, sadly so, but that's how they make their fortunes. After earning a Master's in Biology, I briefly tried to get a job as a drug rep. The company didn't care at all about an Ivy League Master's - they only wanted people with sales experience.

Eric

To get this back on subject, my next 4q for a long hold was going to be in a few minutes from now, and I was planning on a long retention to actually see if anything especially good or bad would ensue from a real hour's hold. However, I just discovered I need to care for my son tonight, so with any luck I can do the 4q/1hr tomorrow night. I'm really looking forward to it. I bought some 10 mg bisacodyl suppositories yesterday to start a little enema mixing experimentation soon, but I think I'm going to start that after this weekend and at a lower volume like 1-2 q in case I have a really strong reaction to even the 10mg/quart dose I've read about here. I'm looking forward to that too.

Eric