Recent Hospital Enema

@victoria1951

Exactly right !!

You might not die waiting for treatment, but you might die because the insurance industry has denied coverage for procedures or medications that could have saved your life.

That is something I see more often than I care to. The quality of the patience life is not important. It is the almighty dollar that rules what is and is not done and how fast things get done. Waiting weeks and months to get treatment, if it gets approved, is inhumane.

One treatment for MS is OCREVUS infusions - given every six months. You've probably seen their ads on television. Thus helps contain Relapsing-Remitting MS and reduces the progression of Primary Progressive MS (PPMS). From the drug manufacturers web-site:

“The current list price of OCREVUS is $68,121.64 annually, but most people will not pay this amount. The amount you pay for OCREVUS depends on a variety of factors, including your insurance coverage.”

That doesn't include the medical cost of two six hour visits to the infusion center. A nurse told me that patients who don't have insurance - or who have low coverage - are “gifted” the drug by the manufacturer; so everybody gets it!. Medicare settles for less than half that cost. Expect a big drop in cost once their patent runs out.

Wonder if it would be more effective if given by enema?? If they're gonna screw you, at least enjoy it!!

Is it really? Right now if you present at the local Emergency Room, are uninsured and need a CAT Scan due to sudden renal colic, you will receive the CAT Scan, receive medical treatment and if necessary admitted to the hospital. If you go to your doctor with debilitating lower back pain, he will likely order a X-Ray and/or CAT Scan which will happen that day in most cases. Within a few hours he will know precisely what is causing your pain and refer you to an orthopedic spinal surgeon if appropriate. A diagnosis of Spinal Stenosis leads to corrective surgery scheduled within 24 to 48 hours with the surgery scheduled within one to two weeks. Friends in Canada tell me they have to see their primary care first after the emergent hospital visit, who issues a referral to see an orthopedic spinal surgeon that is three to six months out. The surgeon orders the CAT Scan or MRI which you have to get into the queue and wait another six to twelve months. This is not a one off case in Canada, it is the norm. Other single payer nations where the government funds and controls health care have similar systems. For all the warts the US system of private insurers has, it is infinitely better than other places I have traveled.

In the US Medicaid is now widely available, covering children, disabled adults and elderly who have not worked and do not qualify for Medicare. Medicare is available for Social Security retirees.

What we have is not perfect, but the last thing I want is Uncle Sam collecting premiums, commingling the premiums in the General Fund and spending it wontly on political friends' special programs.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but this is utter bull. Either your friends are exaggerating or outright lying to you. My wife had knee pain last month, in the space of 2 weeks saw her doctor, had an x ray and MRI, was diagnosed with a torn miniscus, saw an orthopedic surgeon, had surgery, all paid for and available to all regardless of whether you have private insurance or not. This is for something minor, more serious things are even faster. What would happen in the USA if she did not have private insurance, how much would that cost the family?

I have insurance from work, my doctor put me on an experimental drug to control my blood sugar that I inject every week that is very expensive called Ozempic, my insurance covered it no problem as would the free government insurance if i didn't have private, no trying other things first. Sure there are some limitations, for example to monitor blood sugar, the testing kit and strips, and jab needles are covered, but in order to get the kits that are bloodless paid for, you must be actually diabetic and on insulin.

Sure the system here is not perfect, but is still preferable to a system where not everyone is entitled to equal treatment and availability of healthcare. You cited the special cases for free medicaid, what about those that don't fall into any of those categories? Any wonder things like Corona hit minorities and those in poverty the hardest? Why is the death rate over 3 times that of Canada per million people? Maybe free access to healthcare played a role?

If the system is so good by you, why do your citizens need to purchase prescription drugs in Canada because they can't afford them in the USA? Here I pay with private insurance 20% of the cost, and if the amount reaches $1800 out of pocket for the family, i am covered for 100%, not 80% anymore for the rest of the year.

Don't believe everything told to you, the truth is far from the picture that was presented to you and you posted here as facts!

One of the most serious feelings I had in the hospital when my mother told me that the nurse was going to give me an enema. Being anxiously nervous the nurse came in my room and said she was here to give me an enema. I enjoyed getting it and it relieved tension and constipation. That is how my fetish started

Candoc: You are right. I have friends and family in Canada and wouldn't trade their Canadian medical system for the US system. And waits for doctors in the US are sometimes 3.5 months (to see my dermatologist) and 9 months (my wife to see her ob/gyn). Just two cases.

Condoc,

I believe it used to be the other way around. Most Canadians came to the United States for their medical care because it took so long to get anything done in Canada. That was when the Canadian Medical Care system was first started. In time it got much better.

Here in the United States, I do sometime have to wait a long time to get a doctors appointment with most any doctor. That is unless it is an emergency and I may die in a few days if I do not get that medical care fast.

In fact, my wife and I have been tossing the idea around of becoming a dual citizen of both the United Sates and Canada just so we can also get Canadian Medical Care. We have done some checking into it and have found that it is very possible to do. Maybe, one of these days we may just do it.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but this is utter bull. Either your friends are exaggerating or outright lying to you. My wife had knee pain last month, in the space of 2 weeks saw her doctor, had an x ray and MRI, was diagnosed with a torn miniscus, saw an orthopedic surgeon, had surgery, all paid for and available to all regardless of whether you have private insurance or not. This is for something minor, more serious things are even faster. What would happen in the USA if she did not have private insurance, how much would that cost the family?

I have insurance from work, my doctor put me on an experimental drug to control my blood sugar that I inject every week that is very expensive called Ozempic, my insurance covered it no problem as would the free government insurance if i didn't have private, no trying other things first. Sure there are some limitations, for example to monitor blood sugar, the testing kit and strips, and jab needles are covered, but in order to get the kits that are bloodless paid for, you must be actually diabetic and on insulin.

Sure the system here is not perfect, but is still preferable to a system where not everyone is entitled to equal treatment and availability of healthcare. You cited the special cases for free medicaid, what about those that don't fall into any of those categories? Any wonder things like Corona hit minorities and those in poverty the hardest? Why is the death rate over 3 times that of Canada per million people? Maybe free access to healthcare played a role?

If the system is so good by you, why do your citizens need to purchase prescription drugs in Canada because they can't afford them in the USA? Here I pay with private insurance 20% of the cost, and if the amount reaches $1800 out of pocket for the family, i am covered for 100%, not 80% anymore for the rest of the year.

Don't believe everything told to you, the truth is far from the picture that was presented to you and you posted here as facts!

Since writing my first post on this thread, I have started with a new PCP (Primary Care Physician). We of course talked about my issues of Slow Transit constipation, and gave me some options to try. She herself has issues with constipation so she shared with me what works for her. When she was a resident, amongst her peers she was known as the “Poop Queen”. Being that she had her own issues of constipation, she just could not let her patients suffer while in the hospital. Her fellow residents always gave her a bad time about it. She did not elaborate on what she prescribed, but I think we all know what some of those options are.

Just my 2cents worth on the comments made about Canadian Health Care ,one of the best in the world beside Great Britain and yes even Cuba ! I encourage everyone here in the USA is to watch the movie Sicko to really open your eyes to our health care here in America . This movie by Michael Moore was produced before Obama Health Care was finally thank god passed into law ! It’s far from perfect but as you see in the film before this was passed Big Pharma and HMO‘s were even bigger pirates raping and pillaging the America tax payer for their health care. We will not have the free health care like Canada or Great Britain but like Social Security that was put into law bythen President Roosevelt things over the years got better . Let’s hope after 12 attempts by other parties and administrations that will remain nameless out of good taste tried their damdest to eliminate Obama Health Care for all .We will be able to continue to have somewhat of an affordable health coverage for all citizens in one of the wealthiest countries in the world and like Social Security it will only continue to thrive and get better .

I don't think that this is the forum to debate our health care system, but the comment that Canada is the best in the world is just pure bunk and the author shows himself to be not very knowledgeable or well read in the matter. And, Michael Moore is a fool and the Cuban health care system is killing their citizens. Funny, that people in these government run systems come to the US when they really need something. Obama Care drove up the cost of health care. There is a reason why we have the best and that is the government is kept out of it. If you think giving your health care over to the government is a good thing, then you must believe that it will be well run, when everything they touch turns out badly. There is plenty out there in regards to research and comparisons and statistics and I urge you to read way more and not depend on a few personal experiences or some stories on the internet.

During the last decade of my Father's life, I managed his finances. Medicare proved to be a debacle that only could be contrived in a Stephen King book and two sequels. As for my other half's experience with VA healthcare, it left me convinced the last entity you want running healthcare is government.

The US health care system is a statistical failure. Go to the CIA web page and check to see where we are in terms of maternal mortality, infant mortality and life expectancy at birth. Bad, bad and bad. We were part of the “socialist” NHS in England twice. It was marvelous. We never had to wait more than 2 or 3 days to get an appointment, and there were clinics where you could walk in and see a doctor in less than a half hour. We we returned to the US after a year in England my wife called her OB/GYN for an appointment. The receptionist told her, “No problem. We can get you in in nine months.” She could have had a baby by that time. The US health care system is great of you can afford it. Now, there, according to the CIA is whee we are number one - cost. With pathetic results. Plus, my daughter-in-law is a Canadian citizen living in the US. Her family would NEVER trade their system for ours. Getting back to the question of enemas, check the ACTUAL cost if you request a FLEET while in a hospital. Elsewhere in Zity, a nurse explained that because of red tape, expect it to cost something close to $600. Enjoy your US health system as it drains you dry. PS, I am a US citizen who hopes I could get a FLEET squeeze for cheaper than that one day here in my own country. Thank you.

Plus, my daughter-in-law is a Canadian citizen living in the US. Her family would NEVER trade their system for ours. Getting back to the question of enemas, check the ACTUAL cost if you request a FLEET while in a hospital. Elsewhere in Zity, a nurse explained that because of red tape, expect it to cost something close to $600. Enjoy your US health system as it drains you dry. PS, I am a US citizen who hopes I could get a FLEET squeeze for cheaper than that one day here in my own country. Thank you.

The problem with Canada is that they prioritize who gets seen. You could have cancer and die before you get treatment. I know people in Canada and they did have to wait but once they got into the program it works ok. Every country has it's problems but know someone who was just hospitalized and the fleet was closer to $20 plus something more to administer it.

I just had some heart stuff done and that bill for a couple days was probably 50k at UCLA. It's all relative I guess.

I'll stick with the US health system over any other. Know some Canadians that have had extended wait times and bureaucracy in getting treated for serious disease.

We have LOTS of experience with the US health system.

Elsewhere in Zity, a nurse explained that because of red tape, expect it to cost something close to $600. Enjoy your US health system as it drains you dry. PS, I am a US citizen who hopes I could get a FLEET squeeze for cheaper than that one day here in my own country. Thank you.

The writer does not say in which country they are located. So it is a bit hard to compare Apples and Oranges. Assuming it is a country where healthcare is nationalized, there is a good chance the notorious delivered cost $600.00 Fleet enema in the US, has the same actual cost in their location. It is just that government (taxpayers) is paying the hidden expense in the delivered discounted cost in the commenter's home land. Cost shifting is cost shifting, someone has to pay the incurred expenses. Just because you only pay the equivalent of $39.95 does not mean that is the delivered cost of the enema.

Read the rest of your bill. What a FUCKING SCAM !!!

The writer does not say in which country they are located. So it is a bit hard to compare Apples and Oranges. Assuming it is a country where healthcare is nationalized, there is a good chance the notorious delivered cost $600.00 Fleet enema in the US, has the same actual cost in their location. It is just that government (taxpayers) is paying the hidden expense in the delivered discounted cost in the commenter's home land. Cost shifting is cost shifting, someone has to pay the incurred expenses. Just because you only pay the equivalent of $39.95 does not mean that is the delivered cost of the enema.

There is no actual cost of $600 to pass on here in Canada as the hospitals are not privately owned so no need to inflate prices for profit. Cost of treatments and medications are their cost to the hospital and nothing more. The health system sets the costs of treatment and medications that are passed on to private insurance companies at the same prices as the public system calculates them at.

It has been sometime ago, but I remember the time I was in the VA for an operation. Well it was later on in the night, and a very young nurse came into my room and said: she had to give me an Enema before my operation. I was a little surprised she was so young. She had a bulb syringe on the tray and a jar of Vaseline. The nurse told me to get on my back and spread open my legs, I said: why not the way I am , I was on my side. But she said it was better this way …so I got on my back and she pulled my gown up to my chest, then with gloves on she took some Vaseline and lubed my anus first, then I felt her finger enter my anus and I began to get an erection, which she could see, and said: that is normal. Then she told me to relax and began to insert the nozzle and squeeze the bulb, I got really hard, after a few of bulbs, I could see some precum coming from my Penis, I was really embarrassed. She then walked me to the bathroom in my room and waited for me to let everything out and looked and said: fine. The she took me back to my bed and said: one more thing needs to be done. She inserted her gloved finger into my ass and said everything felt fine, and as she was leaving, she said: good luck with your operation.

The writer does not say in which country they are located. So it is a bit hard to compare Apples and Oranges. Assuming it is a country where healthcare is nationalized, there is a good chance the notorious delivered cost $600.00 Fleet enema in the US, has the same actual cost in their location. It is just that government (taxpayers) is paying the hidden expense in the delivered discounted cost in the commenter's home land. Cost shifting is cost shifting, someone has to pay the incurred expenses. Just because you only pay the equivalent of $39.95 does not mean that is the delivered cost of the enema.

Exactly!

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Elsewhere in Zity, a nurse explained that because of red tape, expect it to cost something close to $600. Enjoy your US health system as it drains you dry. PS, I am a US citizen who hopes I could get a FLEET squeeze for cheaper than that one day here in my own country. Thank you.

The writer does not say in which country they are located.

FYI: I am located in the Western US. That is indicated on my wall and on the post. The $600 figure from someone else's post also came from the US.