Doctor commenting on circumcision status

@agracier The examination of the penis to give a hint as to jewishness is mentioned for instance by Joseph Joffo. You're right in saying that, by itself, lack of foreskin in France did not send people (in his, case children) to concentration camps (young Joffo claimed he and his brother had had a medical condition that prompted surgery); rather, it was a hint that further investigation should be made.

And, indeed, circumcision is associated with religion in France. I've heard that some parents are reluctant to have their children circumcised for medical reasons due to this association. One workaround is that there is a separate word for circumcision for medical reasons ("posthectomie"), even if the result is the same. I reckon my aunt was persuaded to have this “little surgery” done on her son because her doctor claimed (wrongly) that it resulted in less skin being removed than for true circumcision (ritual). Indeed, in many cases ritual circumcisions is done by surgeons, not by religious practitioners.

Still no mention of it unless I bring it up first, in all the exams I've experienced since. Maybe it's because of the part of the country I live in…

About Ten years ago, My second Wife and I moved Town, And had to moved Medical Practice and Doctors. I told my wife I would "‘Try a female Doctors for a change"’. I had heard that Doc CF was very fanciable! Made Appointment, turned up- All OK. BUT months later, I got a severe pain in my Left Groin- So turned up for treatment Examination, She was to say the least getting my total attention - When she got me stripped off, walked around behind me, Then felt both sides of my groin, and said- Just a Groin Strain, but tell me- Why are your Records incorrect? I asked her what she meant?-- she said according to your records, you are circumsized! I said no I am not! - She said You Are! - You have a very large Frenum - in fact biggest I have ever seen!- Quite Handsome and Commanding! - I said no lots of Skin- look, She asked what had made my “Knob” so very big- I had to explain, My Wife Number Two (Of Many Many Years, Put a Pump on my Penis Every Evening, While we Watched TV for half An hour- And that had increased its size!- She said- very lucky Lady- your Joan!

according to your records, you are circumsized! I said no I am not! - She said You Are!

@DonRod So are you Circumcised or not ?

I replied not I am not Circumsized, She Said can you cover this extremely large Head, So I demonstrated, She said Quite Handsome- It looks great!- We are Now best friends- And I say outrageous things to her- She Visits, and Even though I now live here in thailand, rings me and we chat often. - Ireally Love her Attitude.

I am saddened to report, I got a Facebook Message from The said Doctor over the weekend, telling me she is self-isolating having contracted the latest strain of Covid-19 (she is in UK- whilst I am here in Thailand) - From the evident mutual Respect we have for each other, (My Wife knows) I kinda wish I was There! Mai Pen Rai!

It did happen to me when i was having my final school medical age 18. The doctor so called got me complected naked on the pretext of checking out my appendix scar then said Ill just check everything else wile i'm down there then the magic words came - I see your not circumcised do you have difficulty retracting your foreskin/ I sheepishly said no then he proceeded to check if i was telling the truth and of course I got an erection and showed him it was also in perfect working order! I now uaw this as part of any play patients who come to visit me for a full examination

My last doctor said “obviously you're uncircumcised” before retracting my foreskin during my first physical with her. More in depth than I was used to.

My pediatrician would ask about my uncircumcised penis, because my brother got circumcised after his foreskin wouldn’t retract. So my pediatrician used to retract it during my exams , which did get me erect and would just asked if I have any problems with it.

@justins I'm surprised that an Eastern European would push for circumcision, outside of a real medical necessity. Contrary to the US (and, in previous decades, Australia and NZ), they don't have a culture of circumcising just for hygiene.

Could it be the woman was Jewish?

In USA when i was teen if you was not circumcused the doctor asked you why and if you thinked about it.

I was at a new pediatrician when I was 12 or 13 for a physical for summer camp. When it came time for the genital portion of the exam he ask my mother to step out. The doctor then had me stand up and drop my pants and underwear. As he examined my penis and testicles he stated, normal pubic hair distribution, circumcised penis, and appropriate genital development. It was very matter of fact, like I had green eyes and brown hair. He then asked me if I had any questions about puberty or becoming a teenager. After that my mother came back into the exam room.

As he examined my penis and testicles he stated, normal pubic hair distribution, circumcised penis, and appropriate genital development. It was very matter of fact, like I had green eyes and brown hair.

This is perfect! I have always wanted to have a doctor who was examining me make a comment about the fact that my penis is circumcised. Very exciting.

Not an actual comment during an examination, but I did find it interesting how much is actually written in detail, including the circumcision, in the patient notes at the urologist.

@GiovanniS Right. And there is a rationale there: if you do a partial circumcision and the problem returns, you end up doing two surgeries, whereas a total one fixes the problem once and for all. Of course, again, it assumes one thinks the foreskin has no useful purpose.

I would like the doctor to examine me and be pleased to find out that I was circumcised. He would then try to find out how this has affected me in later life. Closer examination might reveal what technique was used to do the original surgery - whether it was using a clamp or by the free hand (forceps) method. What nerve damage was done by either method? Was it better to remove the frenulum in a normal penis or not? Was one technique responsible for the fact that I fantasize about the pain of being circumcised. Or was it just being done low and tight - making masturbation difficult without lubrication. The answers may help a lot of people come to terms with an enforced circumcision.

The doctor asked me why I was circumcised and when I explained what had happened he said that in his opinion circumcision was not necessary and at best you could only cut off part of the foreskin. I found it strange that there are such different opinions among doctors.

Circumcision is often a religious procedure, a religious requirement for some and apparently there is something about the procedure that makes proponents want to spread their convictions, much like many religions like to proselytize their faith in their particular set of beliefs and practices.

Circumcision often seems to have the same effect. Those who are circumcised, come to believe in the utter necessity of the procedure and will often enough bend circumstances and explanations to get yet another cut penis into the fold. I often cannot decide if such proponents wish to share the joy or the misery of circumcision with others. In the manner of: if it was done to me, then by golly, I'll make sure it is done to others as well.

Gives me the creeps just thinking about how vehemently penis cutting is advocated with vigor by many medical personnel who should really know better.

@agracier Many people who have been subjected to unpleasant induction ceremonies (be them light forms of hazing such as "pledges" in universities or "bizutage" in France) end up defending them.

@agracier Many people who have been subjected to unpleasant induction ceremonies (be them light forms of hazing such as "pledges" in universities or "bizutage" in France) end up defending them.

Indeed. I call it the: I got the nasty treatment and now it's my turn to do it to the next bunch of unfortunates.

It's getting even for injustices, but then getting even on innocents.

The sociology department I was in did not do any hazing at all. Nada. They didn't believe it was advantageous to anything in student life. I wouldn't have gone to one in any case. If often brings out the worst in many people doing the hazing. Especially when drunk as they usually are.

When I've had exams of my genitals, the doc rolls down my foreskin to expose my head. Sometimes they have commented "as you're uncircumcised I need to roll your foreskin back to examine underneath to check everything is ok".

During my exam the doctor will check my foreskin when she’s examining the genital area. Normally, I’m laying on my back and she’ll say something like “I need to check your foreskin and make sure everything is healthy.” She takes a quick peek around while asking me a couple question about any issues and hygiene. After it’s the testicular and hernia exams.

The only genital exam I’ve had since I was circumcised, for suspected urine problem, Id already mentiomed, a bit awkward, he noted ‘1 year since circumcision’ on the form, and still pulled back the bit of foreskin that’s left, and checked there wasn’t any problems around the end of my urethra, he then asked me to roll over for a prostate exam

I don't think they ever commented on mine, but I've had very few occasions for examinations of the genitals!

(Except of course the doctor who had advised I should be circumcised.)

Somewhere early nineties, I was just in my thirties, I had a Jewish doc who checked me up for some kind of infection. He noticed I was not circumcised and asked why I was not circumcised and recommended me to get circumcised. He mentioned also my frenulum being pretty short.

My previous doctor, who was giving me a physical for a exam form my personal trainer required at the time... checked over my cock and balls and then turned to the form and said, "everything is good. You are circumcised." and then checked the box stating I was circumcised.

That was all my doctor said.

I had a similar exam last year and the doctor did say, "Your nicely circumcised."

I don't have a specific memory of something being said to me, though something easily could have been said in passing, but in a couple of older doctor notes that I happen to have, there are some notes about being circumcised. And occasionally on some historical forms, like what I would have had for camps or even school, i see a place to note it. So I conclude that it was at least noted by medical staff that examined my penis.

Had a routine STD screen. The nurse asks what I'm there for, and I tell her that I'm here to make sure all is well. She's jotting notes down, asking about my history and if I have any symptoms, and then straight up asked, "Are you circumcised?"

I was taken aback a bit, and before I could stutter out an answer, she said, "No worries, we'll have a look to make sure everything's okay." Which defeated the point of asking, when I was going to be examined anyway! I think it was the surprise factor of the question that got me, not any sort of embarrassment. I was going in fully expecting an exam which would make the answer evident. Anyway, during the exam, which was done with me sitting on the exam table at first, she retracted my skin enough to show maybe 90% of the glans, but not more. She took a look all around, then examined my testes with me standing, but didn't replace the foreskin, which had by then slipped back behind the head due to her ministrations. Everything looked good, she said, no signs of any STD's, and she told me to keep up the good work. Finally, she said, "By the way, you aren't circumcised, so make sure you clean everything." I must have looked surprised again, because she rolled the chair forward and replaced the foreskin, pointing it out.

She said something like, "This part that covers you up is called the foreskin, and it's what gets removed in circumcision for hygiene reasons. You have one and it's important that you slide it back and wash underneath. Any questions?" I said no, and she said, "Good, you seem to take care of yourself. You can get dressed now." As I did, she said I'd be provided a specimen cup to pee into as part of the STD screen, and that my results would be sent to me after processing.

Finally, she said, "By the way, you aren't circumcised, so make sure you clean everything." I must have looked surprised again, because she rolled the chair forward and replaced the foreskin, pointing it out.

She said something like, "This part that covers you up is called the foreskin, and it's what gets removed in circumcision for hygiene reasons. You have one and it's important that you slide it back and wash underneath. Any questions?" I said no, and she said, "Good, you seem to take care of yourself. You can get dressed now."

How old were you at the time? I ask because, from what you describe, the nurse seemed to be talking as if you were a 12 year old ... ha ha

It was last week. I had last been to this clinic, which provides occasional free/inexpensive screenings, a long, long time ago. In fact, I wrote a post about it (2016!!!!) https://en.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;msg=750774

I believe it was the same nurse, even though the practice has physically moved locations. I remember that the nurse only went to this location three times a week, etc. which jogged a distant memory. Interesting that at last week's exam, she retracted me herself, whereas back in 2016, she asked me to do it. But she still asked if I was circumcised.