Enema and E-stim together

Try an Enema/E-Stem Experiment with enema nozzle internal (of course), but anal probe or E-stem electrodes external and at the lumbar spinal area. Many do not know that a probe (or just two electrodes) will provide a sensational vibe internally to the colon even when placed upon the skin externally above it. I have used an E-stem anal probe routinely during enemas for many years now, and see no need to insert the probe into the rectum with the enema nozzle, and here is why: I prefer my stimulation higher in the colon than at the sphincter (anus). Perhaps you do too?

A safe experiment that you might consider trying is this; Using a setting on your E-stem controller of 15 hertz and above, and a 50 or 100 band width, lay yourself face down, and place the probe flat upon your bare skin along the spine somewhere in the lumbar area. Masking tape can be used to hold the probe if necessary. As you are taking your enema, vary the amps slowly until you find the colonic contractions and pressures that are most pleasing to you. If you are patient in your search, you will discover combinations of frequency/band width/ amplitude which are truly exquisite. Have the courage to explore with your E-stem for those energetic combinations that are right for your unique self.

I have a question, and don't know if anyone has experience with this. I do not. I was told that a hot "scene" involved taking a saline enema, and then using an electrode up the butt, with the other electrode on the penis. The result was that there were pleasurable contractions through the gut. I can see some problems with this isn't done right. Anyone have any comments on this?

Saline enema, that would be one thing I haven't tried. My theory is the saline would make such a large area of electrical contact most of the naughty electrons would not be felt.

I could be wrong (I was wrong twice but got divorces)

My best pleasure is a two pole dildo that centers a large area on the back side of the colon and the second smaller connection centers on the prostate area.

Using a pulsing wave signal causes the muscles to contract and release in a rhythm or random fashion. Amplitude variations also enhance the stimulation. Usually a session like this will last about an hour depending on the mp3 or wav file used. Most of my stim files I have tweaked the sessions so the player can run without worry of heavy spikes and will automatically change from time to time. I can sit back and enjoy porn video or stories for added stimulation.

My DIY stim box has slider controls so I can easily vary the amount of stim going to big boy or the anal electrodes without fumbling with the computer.

I have tried a vac pump tube with saline solution and an electrode connection. That was a nice mellow feeling but I need to be in the right mood for the prep and cleanup.

PM me if you would like more info.

Cheers

Skybear

Tried something similar using a conductive enema (salt substitute & baking soda) and a steel cockring. Dropped one trode into the bag and connected the other to a steel cockring.

Used non-conductive silicone lube on the colon tube and didn't start injection until it was advanced into the descending colon. Results pretty much matched what Skybear theorized (the smaller trode always wins). I could feel the cockring but no internal sensations.

A strong saline solution might improve the feel. (I'm shy of doing that due to strong coronary response I get from saline.)

My TENS box doesn't have an ultra-low frequency setting to vary the stim at a rate that might excite peristalsis. Skybear's sliders sound like a great approach to doing that more precisely than is possible with the tiny knobs on my TENS.

(late edit: just found Rocketman's post on complimentary TENS frequencies in an adjacent thread -- those sound like they might enhance some peristalsis. -- worth a try!)

Using more area for the external trode (several leg & ankle pads, conductive tubing etc.) might increase the influence of the internal solution.

Skybear, I have posted that before, and you are right. The saline in the colon provides such a large surface area, the electricity is hardly felt at all in the colon. Only the other electrode has any sensation.

I have been E-stimming concurrent (no pun intended) with my enemas for more than a decade with no ill effect. If the E-Stim anal probe is to be inserted alongside an enema nozzle you can expect some leakage. But there is a way to prevent leakage. One can get E-Stim stimulation at targeted areas inside the colon by placing the electrodes at various locations along the back of the spine ( stay well below the heart). An E-Stim anal probe that features its' electrodes "fore and aft" (as opposed to side by side) will, when placed on the lower spine or atop the buttocks, give pleasure at the rectum area as if it were inserted. I find it amazing but true.

Most of my E-stim is urethral insertion stimming. While doing that, I have many times done enemas along with it, no problems, only pleasure. The few times I have E-stimmed rectally while taking an enema, the same results...pleasure.

I think Rocketman's post (#6) is cool since it keeps this simple and provided more lasting pleasure that I'd been able to receive from bizarre connections, electrified nozzles, or sexual toys.

I cleaned out, completly. Put TENS pads in an 'X' pattern across my lower spine and connected them to an inexpensive, two-channel TENS-4000. Solution was a warm yet very mild epsom salt. Instead of a colon tube I used a medium-sized bat nozzle and hand pumped the solution. All told I took in less than 2L of solution pausing every few minutes to play with the TENS settings. Total time -- almost an hour of contractions and pleasure.

Each partner wearing a unipolar electrode and taking an enema is magic

Yes no problem.

Just use pads as suggested externally and do whatever you normally do with the enema or if you are female use a bipolar in the vagina and take the enema.

I do this frequently without problems.

I have seen rectal plugs with enema mods.

They were simple non PES - more like Folsom type with a hole drilled from base to tip, some nice machining to keep the tip nice and smooth and a enema hose barb attached to the bottom.

Run the air out, lube insert, get a nice (in the opinion of the administrator, not the patient) pulse rate and strength established then ask the age old question:

Are you ready to go?

Or just say 'here we go'

and start the flow!

With the electro holding ability is less - i have never done that but have done EMS to the buttocks strong enough to rock the body involuntarily and then started the flow.

The facial expressions are priceless!

I have been combining e-stim (just finished one) and enemas for years. I use an aluminum nozzle (one side of the circuit) and a pad or cap on my sensitive bits (the other part of the circuit) to my Ersotek 312b. Always sensual and stimulating and it can go on for hours or as long as I can hold the enema. Be safe, hugs, Rick in Austin

Okay, reading these posts have inspired me. Just ordered inexpensive E-stim kit. My first (or maybe second) mission will be to see what it does for my enemas. Before, during or after....

I modified a PES bipolar plug to attempt this very experience. Drilled through the center in order to attach the tubing, hooked it up to both bag and power box and gave it a whirl. While the stimulation was intense, the muscle contractions were not enough to assist in retaining the enema as well as I would have liked. I continually worked the power up until it was at maximum, which did distract away from the sensation of the enema a bit (maximum power is pretty overpowering), but I actually considered that a bit of a loss.

It would be overwhelming/exciting to see a modified double balloon nozzle designed to attach to a stim unit. The inability to release either the in-flowing water or the buzzing probe would be very erotic.

You might also try adding a little salt to the enema to make it more conductive.

There are 2 companies in the US that sell aluminum enema nozzles that can be one pole of a TENS circuit. I learned this from some guys who talk about it on fetlife. You can put the other contact on the tip of a man's penis or on a woman's clit. I've done both.

The water should have some salt in it (saline), which makes it a good conductor. What happens is that the colon contracts, pushing the water upward, making it easier to take a larger volume & hold it much longer without much trouble. And the feeling at the other electrode contact will keep you distracted for a very long time. It's an amazing feeling.

I came across this forum looking to see what kind of experiences folks had with this as I am concidering trying it.

For the person looking to modify a double ballon nozzle,..

Buy a 1/4" T hose adapter and a rubber ball valve, google Rubber Ball Replacement Valves.

Stick the valve in one end of the T and connect the bag and nozzle to the other two ends.

The small TENS unit electrode will fit in the ball valve almost perfectly without leaking.

For the folks warning that this might be dangerous, your forgetting electricity will follow the path of least resistance. You would still have to place the second contact above the heart or be otherwise grounded for this to be dangerous which would be the case if you were using an enema or not.

Nice to see folks have had positive experiences with this, I am definitely going to try it.

I take an enema while attached to the e-stim unit. Use warm water and a slow fill from the enema bag. The electrods are attached to the penis I vary the stimulation to make it last as long as the enema is flowing.

YES. One good way is to get an aluminum enema nozzle (one trode). On a man, connect the other near or on the head of the penis. On a woman, right on her clit. I've done both.

You can take more water and retain it a very long time because the contractions push the water upward, and the estim distracts you from anything else.

I got a machinist to drill a hole through my anal stimulator butt plug specifically in order that I could take an enema while being stimulated. I have to admit that it is really fun. I have two tens units and they are the best toys I've ever purchased. Sometimes I will lay there for at lease two hours while I'm getting fucked in the ass. Occassionally I'll do this while I'm holding 2+ qts of water.

Exactly what a friend did to me, i.e. added salt to the enema to make the water more conductive; one of the anodes was a metallic butt plug... it was absolutely wonderful and I came like no other times before. I highly recommend it.

Trying this idea for the first time, it is amazing. I took maybe 1.5 quarts,now have my typical setup going.. pes slim jim, Stanley Jr and the testicle tube electrode. wow!

It certainly enables me to take more. Not sure whether its the muscle spasms working it up or the distraction

Radian

I have been using e-stim with a gallon saltwater enema for over thirty years, and the only negative effect is that it makes vanilla sex about as exciting as mailing a letter. When I combine the e-stim with a partner, an electrode in her and an e-stim nozzle in me as I'm getting the gallon, the sensations are incredible, and when I ejaculate, the current increases dramaticly, as semen is quite salty. This always induces a very powerful orgasm in her. If you are into man to man sex, the receiver uses a urethral probe instead of an anal electrode, and the results are the same. The current then passes through both prostates, with incredible results.

I have built several e-stim enema nozzles, made out of aluminum, with a hose connection and a small (.080 in.) hole for the common TENS lead. Used with a urethral probe, the sensation of being filled is completely different-no urge to evacuate, almost no cramps, and the orgasm is incredible!

I agree with radian.

If I use the E-Stim thing I can hold it longer and sometimes more than the 1 1/2 litre I usually take.

The feeling is incredible.

Waterbottom:

Could you post a photo of your aluminum nozzle? I'm thinking about making one, where the first half (distal) would be one electrode and the other half (proximal) would be the second electrode. I would have to have an insulating material between the two halves, still thinking about a design.

Yes indeed. One can get E-Stim stimulation inside the colon by placing the electrodes at various locations along the back of the spine ( stay well below the heart). Then an E-Stim anal probe that features its' electrodes "fore and aft" when layed upon the lower spine or atop the buttocks, give pleasure at the rectum area as if it were inserted as if inside the rectum. Yty it and see.

I have modified a colonic speculum so that it is an anal electrode which I hook up to the common channel,the right and left channels I hook one to a uretheral electrode and the other to a brass cock ring around the penis and balls. My colonics take about an hour using 20 to 30 gallons of water at 95 degrees. I have had up to 5 mind blowing orgasims during an hour and a half session with the last one lasting almost 4 minutes. The sensations during the colonic are very enjoyable and seem to help obtain a larger amount of water being used during each fill cycle, 3.5 to 4 quarts. I use a home made power box that I built from a battery powered mini speaker systen with an MP3 player with SmartStim routines that I recorded in MP3 format. When I play a routine that has strong slow pulses the colonic nozzle will pump back and forth causing it to massage the prostate giving me the sensations of anal intercourse. It is a garrenteed HFO. I do not find that salt water helps as the nozzle that I modified has a conductive area placed so it is close to the prostate when inserted fully in the rectum.

This system works great and produces mind blowing multiple orgasims, Cheers and many happy estim enemas or colonics.

Charlie

Anyone ever had an e stim while either recieving or holding an enema? or would that be all bad?