Glycerine or Soap?

Ivory soap is the go to soap for enemas and has been for as long as I can remember.

@reddevil

It may be wise to leave Ivory soap off the table of additives in enema solutions. First off the there is no mention of product purity in current labeling and advertising. Secondly the content of the soap has changed. It now uses additives, one of which prevent formation of soap scum in the bath. Castile soap is readily available in Unit Dose packets and is made from olive oil as in the olden days.

@Victoria1951

Your observations about Ivory soap are fairly close to the mark. There are two or more established topics here dealing with the properties of Ivory soap.

1.) Enema Soap

2) Ivory Soap

Amongst these two forum topics is a post by @Master_Dorson who had provided a link confirming that the formulation was different from the original

On the issue of soap v. glycerin, there are difference. While both will make someone poo strongly, they act differently.

The enemas I'm comparing here are:

A 1500ml warm water enema, given with a bag, with solution being warm water with Ivory or Castile bar soap swished in until the water becomes noticeably white.

A 1500ml warm water enema with 100ml of pure, liquid glycerin thoroughly mixed in. IMO more is pointless and does little.

Both would be given with the recipient in the same left side position with the bag hung at the same height.

The soapy enema can usually be fully administered to the recipient, especially if constipated, and some time will elapse after the solution is all in before the cramping starts. Soapy enemas are usually given with slow flow rates for recipient comfort.

With the glycerin solution, the ramping starts soon after the solution begins to flow, and it is quite often a real challenge to just get the full bag into someone. Glycerin enemas are usually given with fast flow rates but that can also cause premature cramping.

I don't think either enema is much more 'slippery'... to make poo passage easier... than the other.

@Victoria1951

Your comments about glycerin are on target.

I think the hypo osmotic effect, while it is probably real, are completely irrelevant when glycerin is added to the water in a large volume bag enema. A glycerin enema cannot be retained for more than a few minutes and the osmotic process would not have time to draw more than a small amount of water into the recipient's colon. It's not like turning on a faucet and a few ounces of added water isn't going to increase the poo power of a 1500ml plus bag enema.

The hypoosmosais could well have some effect in a small volume, high concentration, such as a Fleet Liquid Glycerin Applicator or an Asian “fig”.

I thing both glycerin and soap (and bisaodyl/Dulcolax) make someone poo strongly because any of them really irritate and annoy the inside of the recipient's colon and the response is strong peristaltic contractions and poo happens very soon.

Dr. Bronner's. Tea Tree as it might stink a little like turpentine, but gives a good cleanout. Next, peppermint soap as it not only cleans you out, but can make your butt sting a little going for an added thrill. Last but not least, lavender scented. It gives a gentle cleanout, but also makes your ass smell like flowers are coming out of it 🤣😅😁

I think the hypoosmotic effect, while it is probably real, are completely irrelevant when glycerin is added to the water in a large volume bag enema. A glycerin enema cannot be retained for more than a few minutes and the osmotic process would not have time to draw more than a small amount of water into the recipient's colon.

The hypoosmosais could well have some effect in a small volume, high concentration, such as a Fleet Liquid Glycerin Applicator or an Asian “fig”.

I thing both glycerin and soap (and bisaodyl/Dulcolax) make someone poo strongly because any of them really irritate and annoy the inside of the recipient's colon and the response is strong peristaltic contractions and poo happens very soon.

@Sean

When I worked bedside in 1972, part of administering an enema was measuring input and output. The typical solution used for an adult was 1950 cc of water and 50 cc of glycerin (2.5% glycerin by volume). Returns were closely monitored and documented. Bedpans were placed on the toilet so the collected returns could be poured into a 2 liter Pyrex pitcher for measurement. It was not unusual when using 2 liters of the 2.5% glycerin solution to recover about 2.3 liters of fluid if the patient retained the solution for 10 minutes.

If you instilled the 2.5%, 2 liter solution over 8 to 10 minutes it was not difficult to retain for 10 minutes but it also did not linger once evacuation started, it was literally non-stop. A 2 liter solution of 3% or greater glycerin was almost impossible to instill as griping ramped up quickly, no matter the rate it was instilled.

Pure liquid glycerin was another thing. Five cc's would result in any patient emptying the rectum and sigmoid within no more than two to three minutes maximum with great urgency, and continuing to strain to evacuate for ten to fifteen minutes even after emptying.

Osmotic effects are pretty straight forward as glycerin pulls water from the colon / body almost immediately, and causes the urge to go even with a small volume given. A soapsuds enema however, fills the colon with a solution that your body can better handle, thus the increased amount you can take. I'll take soap thanks, bur if used in a BDSM or embarrassing situation that you may wish to create, glycerin is the way to go.

@Victoria1951

When using the bedpan on the toilet to measure the output from the enema recipient, did you have the person pee into a urinal during expulsion? After receiving an enema, a person usually pees and 300ml is a typical pee volume.

Glycerin or soap? This is a problem.

It may be wise to leave Ivory soap off the table of additives in enema solutions. First off the there is no mention of product purity in current labeling and advertising. Secondly the content of the soap has changed. It now uses additives, one of which prevent formation of soap scum in the bath. Castile soap is readily available in Unit Dose packets and is made from olive oil as in the olden days.

I see on Amazon there is an “Original" Ivory soap that still says “99.44% Pure Clean & Simple Lightly scented So pure it floats”

I use regular glycerin too .

@bhyr ponders

Glycerin or soap? This is a problem.

There's a singular pre-packaged Neutrogena soap that contains glycerine. I read somewhere that there's fellow “enthusiasts” that find it a smooth buzz😲 Not that I'd know anything about “That” . . lol

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Mix 1 part vegetable glycerine with 2 parts water. Only need about a quart. you will have an awesome bowel movement … it just keeps coming with cramping !!! Just relax and enjoy the movement

Glycerine or mineral oil is nasty over soap, as IF you aren't / don't have time.

A “ innocent ” fart and not being near the toilet, can have embarassing issues.

A diaper while visiting a busy Walmart / other, might be an idea.

@Victoria1951

When using the bedpan on the toilet to measure the output from the enema recipient, did you have the person pee into a urinal during expulsion? After receiving an enema, a person usually pees and 300ml is a typical pee volume.

@Sean

The patient was instructed to empty their bladder before beginning the enema. Normally, added pressure in the colon will produce the urge to void which would interrupt administration. The objective was to instill all of the solution on first attempt.

@Victoria1951

Did you give these enemas to relieve routine constipation or as a prep for some test. Giving 2000ml of 2.5% glycerin solution seems like a pretty powerful enema just to help someone poo. Also, you emphasis on getting the full dose in makes me wonder.

@Victoria1951

Did you give these enemas to relieve routine constipation or as a prep for some test. Giving 2000ml of 2.5% glycerin solution seems like a pretty powerful enema just to help someone poo. Also, you emphasis on getting the full dose in makes me wonder.

@Sean

In the early 70's a popular diagnostic was the “Barium Swallow," also called the “Upper GI Series”. If the physician called for a 'small bowel follow through", the radiologist would not add laxatives to the barium milkshake the patient swallowed during the exam. Barium upon reaching the colon has a propensity to flow around existing stool in the colon, where it will form concretions. Getting it to move takes lots and lots of considerately warm water. Failure to act within the first 24 hours leads to the colon literally desiccating the colon contents and turning the barium into large difficult to pass lumps. Barium typically settled along the transverse colon and down to the rectal vault, so it took a large volume of fluid to aid removal.

@Victoria1951

I had a Barium Swallow test, plus had to dink a fizzy liquid to inflate my stomach. A few hours later, I had an urgent, surprisingly heavy, firm, formed poo. After the test I was instructed to take a large dose of MoM after dinner. Since I'd had a large poo earlier I called the doctor and asked about the laxative and was told to definitely take it. Well, about an hour after taking the MoM, I had several more white colored poos, so the laxative was probably a good idea.

Someone here previously said they used Neutrogena bar soap for soap stick suppositories, which reminded me that some time back I used Neutrogena for some enemas. I used the original, which is a semi-transparent amber colored bar. Someone here or on another enema message board said that if you cut off a piece of the bar and microwave it in a cup of water it makes a syrupy liquid that is easier to mix in an enema than trying to dissolve the bar in the sink or a pitcher. I remember the Neutrogena left me with a different feeling when finished than the castile soap I had been using at the time. Not bad, just different. It seemed to be a bit stronger than the Dr. Bronners castile but not as harsh as Ivory would be. Haven't done that in a while. Maybe it's time to try it again.

Neutrogena does make a liquid fragrance free cleanser. It is described to be glycerin, hypoallergenic and oil free without harsh detergents. I am not sure if this is the same as the bar, but it would be a lot easier to use than trying to dissolve a bar.

The next question would be how much to use per quart of water . . .

@w_wolf_1957

It doesn't take a LOT of soap to significantly increase the poo power of a bag of water. I'd expect a teaspoon or two would really get you cramping. If the cramping is not strong enough for your taste, just hold the enema for a few more minutes. In general, the longer you hold the enema solution the better and more complete the eventual poo will be.

Whatever mommy or my older sister put into MY needed enema!!

Today I learned about glycerine soap, thank you!

I usually just like ivory bar soap, but I’m looking forward to trying glycerine soap now.

Neat glycerin squirted up acts very fast for sure. Solid glycerin needs to melt first, saddle soap very large amount glycerin so as melts with a lot cramping

Good morning nigel, I was up at 6, haven't shit for a few days, got out an empty fleets bottle, had a little bit of glycerin leftover in a bottle, poured it into fleets, an kept rinsing it till fleets was full, rubbed soap on my bum knelt down, inserted nozzle and squirted it into me, 5 mins and I was on the pot !!

I find soap way too irritating even hours after an enema. Liquid glycerin is available in the pharmacy here in the UK and I have used it occasionally after a series of two liter warm water enemas to help expel any remaining water. I use one of those lube shooters about half full of glycerin and I can say it woks very quickly. I have never had such strong cramps but it does the trick. It makes my bottom break out in a sweat while I'm on the loo. I suppose it would be right up someone's street if they were into the punishment side of things. I prefer the gentle warm water route, but like to make sure I'm all empty afterwards.

When my nanny didn’t have time for giving A bag enema, she had an effective little helper: a small 4 oz enema bulb filled with a mixture of glycerin, castile soap and a little very warm water. Very effective.

I used to buy glycerin in bulk quantities from an online craft supply. It's quite a bit cheaper if you use a lot of glycerin like I did.