Be carefull with large volume enemas

I have always been very careful not to overfill or try to see if I could continue set records for myself. As a result, my enemas are usually much smaller volume and more expels. I try to take my time and let each fill do its work before doing another fill.

I want to be able to enjoy doing enemas for a lifetime and so I really don't want to push the limits and do any harm. I really don't need to do large volume enemas to really enjoy all the sensations and effects they produce.

People CAN and DO take 2-3-4-5 quart enemas.

It depends on the person.

Everyone has a different capacity.

Three quarts is fairly common.

Only a few people can take 4 or 5 quart enemas

I wonder if enjoying my enema hobby in my youth resulted in an acquired megacolon?

I'm not a particularly large women, in fact I am smaller than what statisticians say is now average size for american females. Yet I relatively routinely take four quart enemas. It's clear to me that the water isn't staying all in my colon, but rather is migrating through my ileo-cecal valve up into my small intestine. Once my bowels are emptied I can routinely fill them with four quarts without much discomfort. I can't do that if feces or gas are taking up part of the intestinal volume, but once I have emptied myself of all the smelly brown stuff I can almost always drain a full Klystra one-gallon bag into myself. I am careful to always use a girdle to provide support to my abdominal wall if I'm playing with big volume. I guess there is as much variation among human intestines as there is about our faces or our heights, and I just happen to have large-volume guts!

Hugs,

Diane

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this answers many questions for me, I thought 4 quarts was the norm, I used to get frustrated when I could not take 4 quarts, so I started to use a oral cleanser first, takes a few hours but get things moving, but then 4 quarts are nearly always possible, but the next one I really struggle to get three quarts, and I do push it to try and get more in.

I think I should just calm down,

4 quarts is a large enough and comfortable enough enema for me!!!

I'd say my maximum volume is three and a half quarts and that is bordering on uncomfortable. I think I like three quarts as my normal volume. Like Susie says, everyone is different.

I used to do 4 qts of plain tap water, but of late I have been doing 5-6 qts. I take perhaps 1/2 to 3/4 hour to let it all in, so it is a comfortable experience. I do not try to hold it any length of time because I do not have extra time for that, buy I imagine that I could hold it for at least 10-15 min if I wanted to. I do not feel any danger from doing this.

hankb

Wow---4-5-even 6 qts.-----My max is 2 qts----and a lot of times a lot less.----I dont like the uncomfortable feeling with more than 16-1700 ml.

I think the most I ever had at once 3 qts . I believe I was in my 40's when I got that .

In my 20's I never had more than 2-2.5 quarts, unless the one BE I had was larger. I just felt I couldn't withstand any more. For some reason, though they were all water or saline, I remember having a lot more cramping in those years than later. My cramping seems to have gradually diminished with time, unless I'm using something that will usually cause more cramping for me like greater amounts of soap. I also suffered from fairly frequent bouts of truly intense spontaneous abdominal cramping unrelated to enemas from IBS, which may have played a role.

Fortunately my last known bout of IBS cramping was at age 30. Recently, now age 63, I've just felt I could hold more, so over the last 2-3 months I've gradually experimented with benign solutions and am very comfortable with 3-3.5 quarts, usually with next to no cramping with saline. After joining this group I became even more curious and about a month ago had a very enjoyable time slowly doing 4 and then 5 quarts on successive days. That will absolutely be my limit - I felt obviously extremely filled and distended which was enjoyable, but I'll stay with my routine 3-3.5 q now and have a very good time.

Any cramping I've had while actually taking it seems to be pretty mild, and it just means I have to try and relax and push my stomach out to to take more. For that reason, it's been pretty easy for me to work my way up, starting at a full 2 qts and then increasing to 3.

One day, when my system seemed to be a bit sluggish due to a cold, I actually managed to take 4 qts for the first and only time. It mostly seems to be a matter of dealing with the increasing pressure from how full I get and how it presses on everything else inside. I always stay within my comfort zone and don't push things to the point of pain. Once it's all in, I enjoy walking around and looking at the distension, but that's when the stronger cramps start!

High volume enemas (depending on the person - 3-4 qt or more) can have VERY SERIOUS results. Many people have diverticulosis (pouching of the large intestine) with no symptoms. This is a very weak area that can rupture with possible fatal results. Even with an intact colon, the pressure can push fluid/soap/waste back through the ileo-cecal valve and cause major problems in the much more sensitive small bowel. Stick with 2 qt and enjoy the great sensations of a full colon and expulsion. Please be careful so you can keep posting to the group!

I have always done at least 4 qts, maybe as many as 6, over the last few years and have suffered no ill consequences. I have not even died. So, I think that worries that others have about taking 4 qts are unfounded and recommend that you take as much as you feel comfortable doing.

hankb

I've taken four quarts barely and couldn't have taken one ounce more. I think there's some protective mechanism because it stopped running on it's own.

In any case when taking enemas small or large one must listen to ones body. Unfortunely in any activity one can have a run of bad luck and strange things happen.

I take a 3 qt. then a 4 qt after that

I take 4 qts all of the time, sometimes 5 or 6, though not often. Four works fine for me.

hankb

I sometimes take a two quart cold water enema and let it trickle in. It takes about an hour, all the while pleasuring myself. I feel it also is a better clean-out. Just make sure i'm not going anywhere for the next couple of hours. It's also very healthy since any toxins in the stool don't get a chance to be reabsorbed into my body. Many people get unexplained illnesses from being constipated especially with all the additives in today's foods.

I find that large enemas are completely relaxing once I'm nicely cleared out with some smaller 1Q and 2Q flushings. I can regularly take 3.5Q, sometimes moving to a full 4Q. I used to have a 3Q bag that I used in conjunction with a 2Q, but that was uncomfortable, and I wasn't able to retain for more than a few seconds.

As for the ladies posting that they can't get beyond 2Q worry not. Don't forget that you're likely physically smaller than the gentlemen in these forums that are taking larger amounts. Worry not. Enjoy!

BC

I can only manage around 3 qts myself I can seldom ever go beyond the 3 qts here

The amaunt of liquid supported during an enema is very interpersonal variable. Repletion of feces, constitution of the colon, and age are main factors to determine if the received liquid is excesive or not. Surpass the maximun tolerated amount is enter in risk of the severe intestinal rupture.

Since my 20's, I've been a "2 bagger", i.e, easily taking 4 qts. Once I tried more than that, but didn't get very far and decided against going there again. If I've already cleaned out the bulky stuff, 4qts is good for me and I can hold it for quite a while, though my belly is definitely distended.

My volume varies, depending on how I feel and the time since my last enema. If I haven't had one for a while it is about 2-3 liters, with regular use 3 liters is comfy. The most I have taken is 4 1/2 liters, that time I felt very distended indeed.

I can hold 3 to 3 1/2 qrts if i take a 2 qrt first have taken as much as 4 without much discomfort its a preference thing for me

I always take at least 4qts, sometimes 5 or 6, always clear tap water--nothing added. I can hold 4 for a long time, but more gets difficult. I have never had any internal problems with that much. I always do it with a 3' colon tube, which, I am told, gets the water into the transverse colon or ascending colon, whereas using just a nozzle does not do so well at getting the water in all of the way. I would add that others who know what they are talking about, such as Suzi, say it does not make any difference where you put the water in for it will fill the whole length of the colon. It does not make any difference to me because I enjoy putting the colon tube in anyway.

hankb

With a foot of my colon having been removed, 2.5 qts. is my usual. If I've been cleaned out with a PEG solution, I can take 3 qts., but no more. If I use soap 2.0 qts. is about all I care to take. I lean on the side of staying safe.

Jimmy--Perhaps 10 years ago, I had a non-malignant tumor in my colon and they took out 13 cm (9" more or less) of my colon. Somehow, I am able to take 4+ quarts without any trouble, but I sometimes wonder how it works that I can take so much with about 13% of my colon gone. All I can say is that it works.

hankb

With a foot of my colon having been removed, 2.5 qts. is my usual. If I've been cleaned out with a PEG solution, I can take 3 qts., but no more. If I use soap 2.0 qts. is about all I care to take. I lean on the side of staying safe.

Jimmy--Perhaps 10 years ago, I had a non-malignant tumor in my colon and they took out 13 cm (9" more or less) of my colon. Somehow, I am able to take 4+ quarts without any trouble, but I sometimes wonder how it works that I can take so much with about 13% of my colon gone. All I can say is that it works.

hankb

Jimmy, in my professional opinion, DON'T TEST YOUR LIMITS.

The emergency surgery and life you save will be your own.

I still do not believe that you need a very large quantity of enema to give results. Instead a comfortable enema to my mind is a much better option. After all, why not enjoy the experience rather than being in misery? I for one do not like cramping nor do I like having that feeling that I've taken so much that I can't hold it for any length of time. Maybe it was the way I was brought up, but the idea of holding an enema to allow it to work was indelibly etched into my mind.

Emom- you are right that you do not need to push your limits on volume. Besides leading to cramps ands messes on the floor, it can be uncomfortable and not so enjoyable. I am still experimenting with how much is enough or too much. Four quarts seem to be about the limit of what I can hold after the bag is empty, but sometimes I like or want to do more.

You are also right that you do not need to overfill yourself to get cleaned out because several smaller ones will achieve the same thing, but you have to have the time to do it. I have only limited time alone in the house while my wife is gone, so I have to work faster and put in more water than I would like.

As nearly as I can tell, these large volume enemas have not done me any harm, so I will continue to do them from time to time.

hankb