Cleaning or Care of Equipment

I'm not fond of bleach. I make a natural mold/mildew killer from white vinegar, tea tree oil, lavendar oil, rosemary oil and lemon oil. I've never used it on enema equipment, just soft surfaces like carpet and rugs, under sinks and on the bathroom and kitchen floor. It is effective for use around the house. I don't know if the ingredients would be fit for using on enema equipment, but wanted to pass along a more natural recipe.

USE THE BLEACH. ---- I'LL SAY IT AGAIN ---- USE THE BLEACH.

USE IT STRAIGHT FROM THE BOTTLE. LET IT STAY THE BALLOONS FOR 24 HOURS. WHEN YOUR DONE, RINSE WITH WATER AND DRY.

BLEACH IS FINE IN CONTACT WITH SILICONE.

It's going inside the balloons, not inside you.

The way to get it in there is to use a large syringe or an oven baster that has a tip that will fit in the balloon tubing.

The way you keep the balloons inflated is to put the bleach in with the syringe or baster and while the balloon(s) are inflated, use a hose clamp to hold the bleach in the balloon. It's no problem. You don't have to put a zillion cc's of bleach in there either. Just about 100cc should do it. You want the bleach in full contact with all the flutes in the balloon, you don't need the balloons widely inflated. You do however, want the tubing feeding the balloons to be filled with bleach, so after filling, bleed the tubing to get bleach all the way back up to the hose clamp on the balloon tubes.

I use a small hose clamp in addition to the squeeze bulbs to keep the balloons inflated while the double balloon rectal catheter is inside me. It ensures the balloons don't deflate while I'm taking a long relaxing extened enema.

Once the bleach is inside, you can massage the inner walls of the balloon with the bleach solution.

Your balloon catheter will be completely fine. DON"T THROW IT OUT.

In the future, make sure your squeeze bulbs and valves stay dry and that the balloon tubing stays away from water.

BY THE WAY---GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT DOES NOT WORK AT ALL. THE PRESERVATIVES USED IN PRODUCING THE GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT IS ACTUALLY WHAT HAS THE ANTIBACTERIAL ACTION. IN ADDITION, GRAPEFRUIT EXTRACT SOLD BY EVERYBODY IS BASED IN GLYCERIN, AND THAT CAN SUPPORT BACTERIAL GROWTH.

The use of grapefruit seed extract is a lot of bunk. Here's a scholarly, scientific, refereed journal reference:

http://www.enemas4fun.com/forum/index.php?topic=532.msg7593;topicseen#msg7593

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&uid=10399191&cmd=showdetailview&indexed=google

I don't believe that the bleach will significantly attack the latex. One modification I would make is to fill the balloons for maybe 10-20 minutes and see if that does it, then rinse with water, if not, do it again until it comes out clean.

I've never used the vinegar on anything other than the surfaces I've mentioned, so I don't know if they would compromise the integrity of the latex balloon. If forhealthtoo isn't in too in a big hurry to repair the balloon, she could experiment with bleach solution and a vinegar solution and any other solutions that are suggested. Label a condom with the name of the solution being tested and fill it with an inch or so of the solution, tie it off at the top like a balloon and let them sit for a few days. Whichever solution causes little or no damage may work the same for her balloon nozzle.

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The other thing is that in the past, I've found egirlky's suggestions to be very good. She is very well educated in the areas she speaks about, or she doesn't speak about them at all.

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Thanks, Allan. My suggestion was purely theoretical. I don't have a double balloon rectal catheter and have no experience in their upkeep. There are far more experienced and knowledgeable people than me in this area.

Thanks so much enema friends for jumping in and offering advice!

I went ahead and used a bit of simple green to try and wash the mold out of the balloons. It was tricky, but got the dark stuff out... still i worry about the mold reappearing.

I am going to do as egirlky has suggested and do a test run with bleach and vinegar solution. i have some extra amber latex tubing and am going to use that for the experiment since it is the same exact material as the nozzle.

Will update.

Thanks again!

Well gee, the dark spot is on the inside of the balloon and you're on the outside, so what's the problem? If you put any liquid inside the balloon it's never going to be completely removed, and will never dry, because there's no air circulation. Personally, I'd leave it alone, rather than take a chance and damage it.

(With urinary catheterizing trays as used in a hospital, there's a syringe pre-filled with sterile water, to use for inflating the balloon on the retention catheter.)

After I use my enema bags a while, I usually clean the insides with some warm water and a capful of laundry bleach. Close the top and shake the bag. This will kill any bad bacteria. Then rinse the bag several times and you're good to go.

That's the right way to do it. A small amount of bleach and rinse very, very, well. It is also important make sure the equipment is dry before putting it away!

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Well gee, the dark spot is on the inside of the balloon and you're on the outside, so what's the problem?

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I could go along with that.

It shouldn't be hard to clean a four quart Klystra bag. The top opening is pretty large.

First, take a wet, soapy sponge and drop it into the bag, which should already be wet and soapy. Then make believe you are going to "fist" your bag. That means extend your fingers and tuck your thumb into your palm, just like the initlal anal fisting position! 😁 😁

If you're cleaning the bag, you should soap up your hands, so they will slide easily into the bag (just like fisting 😁 ) so once you're in, you can just rub your hand against the entire inner surface (again, just like fisting 😁 ). God, I never thought cleaning a bag could get me so hot!

Anyway, once you've thoroughly wiped the inside with the sponge, gently remove your hand (you know, just like. . . ) and rinse the bag. The rubber of the bag should easily allow you go do this. If your forearm feels tight against the rim of the bag, remember you can use your other hand to push the bag against your hand inside the bag so all surfaces can be wiped.

You shouldn't have any problem with this.

If it's an open-top bag, the best way is to just put the hose in the bathtub, open the valve, set the faucet fairly hot. and hold it under there until it runs clean, then hang it from the shower rail, and let it finish draining. Then wash the outside with a damp washcloth, and put the washcloth immediately in the laundry. If someone else has used it since you have, put a quarter cup of bleach in it first! In that case, once it runs clear, go to cold or lukewarm water and keep it flowing until you can no longer smell the bleach.

Wash it down with soap, rinse, the use Peroxide to disinfect.

Just make sure that you rinse the bleach off soap wouldn't be a problem

On the weekend, usually sunday night, I run some dish soap through the hose a few times, then soak everything in a bleach solution, actually the one that naughtydoc said, 1 cup bleach to 2 quarts water.

I had an unpleasant experience a few years ago when I ran water through the hose before filling the enema bag. A lot of black slimy stuff came out and scared me. I didn't want any of it going inside me. At that point I just through everything out, and just kept my bulb syringe for enemas.

Does anyone have any ideas what is best to clean hoses if I buy another fountain syringe? I assume the problem was mold or a fungus that grew in a moist environment inside the hose. How can one get the hoses to be perfectly dry without going through a lot of trouble?

Excellent question ! 😃

On my silicone hoses I can see "buildup", which must be happening without visibility on my other hoses. Certainly seems like a good idea to also clean out the equipment we're using for our cleanouts.

I've used GSE (grape seed extract) to sterilize / clean out my bulb syringes.

I just Googled "hose brushes" and came up with some good sounding solutions used for home brewing hoses. Anyone have experience using these or other hose cleaning devices ?

Enema equipment should be cleaned and disinfected after use, dried as well as possible and stored in a position to drain any water that remains. Clean everything first with a soapy solution; I use a fuel primer bulb to vigorously flush the hose. Pipe cleaners work well for nozzles and the end of the hose. If you must scrub the inside, a soapy pipe cleaner (double the ends over & wrap to blunt the ends) propelled by compressed air works. Rinse, then disinfect in bleach 1:10 with hot water. Soak in this solution for at least two minutes. Rinse again, then dry. Rinsing with a bicarb solution (maybe 1 tsp/qt) and drying without rinsing out the bicarb can also be done to further inhibit the growth of unwanted invaders.

Re the deposits on the inside of the silicone hose: It may be soap scum that is accumulating. Vigorous flushing with a bleach solution may remove it.

Closed top bags take a LONG time to dry. Closed top bags should be hung with the tube side down so it can drip. Open top bags should be hung right side up for best dripping and air access. An open top bag will obviously dry faster. You want it to dry fast, so make your final rinse with hot water and shake it out the best you can.

Closed top bags can be filled with detergent, like dishwasher detergent because it doesn’t foam and cleans very thoroughly. Rinse the bag a few times with clear water and hang it upside down to drip dry. It should be very easy to clean a four quart Klystra bag. The top opening is pretty large. First, take a wet, soapy sponge and drop it into the bag, which should already be wet and soapy. Then make believe you are going to "fist" your bag. That means extend your fingers and tuck your thumb into your palm, just like the initlal anal fisting position!

If you're cleaning the bag, you should soap up your hands, so they will slide easily into the bag (just like fisting so once you're in, you can just rub your hand against the entire inner surface (again, just like fisting).

Anyway, once you've thoroughly wiped the inside with the sponge, gently remove your hand (you know, just like. . . ) and rinse the bag. The rubber of the bag should easily allow you go do this. If your forearm feels tight against the rim of the bag, remember you can use your other hand to push the bag against your hand inside the bag so all surfaces can be wiped. You shouldn't have any problem with this. After use, fill your bag with very hot water and flush out the colon tubes and hoses very well.

Soap and water or bleach diluted 1:5 or even 1:10 with water is fine for cleaning enema equipment. Boiling is not necessary.

To scrub the inside of tubing, you can take a long piece of bare copper wire (longer than your tube) from the electrical department of a hardware store and bend a very tight loop on BOTH ends. The first loop is to make sure the wire end is smooth and the other end is used to crimp on a tiny piece of gauze or sponge. The wire is first threaded through the wire al the way to the other end and is used to pull the end with the sponge or gauze attached all the way through the tubing. That will effectively wipe the inside walls of the tubing. You may need to experiment a bit to find the exact sponge size to pull through the tubing. Start with a small piece and work up in size if necessary. You don't want a piece of sponge falling off or getting stuck inside the tubing.

Colon tubes, double balloon rectal catheters, and other tubes should be hung straight and vertically, NOT coiled until they are completely dry. Coiling will dramatically slow down drying and promote mold growth.

I often clean the bag and tubes in the shower, with the exception of a double balloon rectal catheter. The double balloon rectal catheter has to be cleaned in the sink and the valves kept dry.

Our S&M / enema equipment room looks like a meat locker with everything just hanging straight down from hooks. None of our equipment is ever stored coiled except for our ropes.

The use of grapefruit seed extract is a lot of bunk. Here's my post and it contains a scholarly, scientific, refereed journal reference:

http://www.enemas4fun.com/forum/index.php?topic=532.msg7593;topicseen#msg7593

http://www.enemas4fun.com/forum/index.php?topic=532.msg7593;topicseen#msg7593

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&uid=10399191&cmd=showdetailview&indexed=google

After you washed your equipment make sure it dried properly cause moldy enema equipment is not really our best friends....i'd get a new bag every 6 months anyway, especially if you change partner!

I thought running a clorox and water solution thru the hoze helped. I also stuff paper towls in the box to dry it out 😃

I have an idea, might work on the hose. Go to your favorite sporting goods or gun shop and purchase a rifle cleaning kit. It consists of a series of aluminum rods that screw together and have attachments that will accept brushes or a cloth cleaning patch. I don't know if you would want to run the wire brush through the tube, but who knows, haven't tried it. You could use the small nylon attachment to push or pull a small cloth cleaning patch through the tube. The cleaning rod will probably be too short to go all the way through, but you could go from both ends. If you wanted to spend a little extra, buy two kits and combine the cleaning rods.

It seems like a lot of effort though, you could just clean the hose with bleach and water periodically or just buy new hose. For silicon hose, that could get quite costly.

Hoseman

A partner had wanted to clean equipment with rubbing alcohol. I wasn't sure whether this was was a good or bad thing and held off. Any thoughts?

I use a capful of liquid bleach per rinse to clean out my bags before hanging to dry. I do that several times before hanging up to dry. As for my hoses, I fill my bag with hot water, bleach(capful). Then I attach the hose and let drain. I repeat this a few times. Then I turn on the tub foscets. And take my hose still attached to the enema hose adapter(without being attached to the bag), and hold the enema hose adapter directly under the foscet. This forces the hot water through the hose. I do this a few times. Afterwards I disconnect the hose from the enema hose adapter and hang to dry before storing away. After a month or so. I buy and replace my old hoses with new ones.

Use a bleach solution, 1:10 or 1:5.

I have a question about cleaning my green flexible nozzle after using. I use vaseline as a lubricant, not KY Jelly.

After each use, I clean it thoroughly with warm soapy water, use Q tips to dislodge any material or vaseline, and then immerse it in 90% alcohol.

Any suggestions or recommendations from anyone

would be appreciated.

I just use warm soapy water as I always am able to get any waste off the nozzle as well as the hose

Another good way to clean out nozzles is by using pipe cleaners with anti bacterial soap and water....

You can't just rinse with warm water. At least use peroxide.

Just don't put the bleach in hot water 😃

I just purchased a paris three quart bag set and extra nozzle from klystra. I was wondering what kind of cleaning solution or soap does everyone agree here is the best to keep my new equipment in top shape. I have been using homemade device up until this purchase and I have been cleaning them with foaming anti bacterial soap from bath and body works and then rinsing the stuff in very hot wateruntil all the smell is gone. I like ease of maintenance and quick cleanup. Id really like to just have a special 5 gallon pail I can put some mixture in and toss all the equipment in there and wash it off and then do a nice hot as hell water rinse. I'd like to try some bronners peppermint soap but I read that the oil in that soap can cause rubber bag problems; is this true?