Volume limit

Although I've done a full 4 qts in the past, I generally find that mutliple 2 qt enemas more satisfacory and enjoyable.

Everybody's capacity is different. I have no trouble taking 4 quarts. It makes me feel very full, but there is no pain or serious discomfort.

I also agree that the body type & experience will determine how much volume you are able to take. I usually max out at 4qts but every once in a while I will fill up with 5-6qts. Taking numerous 2qt enemas are my starting point for cleaning me out & for retention. 3-4qts is a for slow, erotic, cramping fun with my dom. and 5-6qts are truly a painful, distended, punishment.

Most people find two quarts as their capacity for an enjoyable enema. There are some who want an enema as punishment I have used as much as four quarts with a retension device inserted for as long as 15 minutes for punishment. If I am using a colon tube I usually give three to four quarts for a really deep cleaning

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Colontherapist,

With diverticulosis it's easy..... All this condition means is that there are wounds in the lining of her colon that can get irritated, inflamed and infected. The enemas have probably been preventing a lot of this from happening so don't sweat it. As long as the enemas aren't huge and distending her colon she should be fine. Keep it at 2 quarts and make sure to take things slow and really listen to her body if she wants to hold more than that.

I have a white Klystra 4 qt, which actually holds a tad over 4 quarts. If I go very slowly and shift positions, I can take it all about 2/3 of the time. Usually, I don't "last" long enough, though...

It takes a long time, but I can take over 4 quarts after some preparatory enemas. But if there is any real pain, not just discomfort, I think one should stop wherever they are.

Usually two quarts is my limit, but have done a bit more if fairly clean and the flow is constant but not too fast

Keep in mind:Whatever your volume limit is, it is LESS with poop still in you! Also, the stomach empties part of it's contents into the small intestine every 20 minutes or so. Likewise the small intestine empties part of it's content to the large intestine about as often, though not always at the same time. You want to make sure you are fully cleared out before trying to go for the limit.

I have done from 2 to 4 qts..2 qts for some fun..4 qts for some punishment

4 to 5 courts for me. A full JBL is a nice fill.

I was once up to 4 fairly easily, if relaxed and cleaned out, but for some reason my limit seems to have dropped to 3 in the last couple years. It still feels just as full though, so I'm happy.

I have done 4-qts on several occasions, but in reality, I find two 2-qt enemas more pleasurable and satisfying.

I do 4 quarts on my first daily enema and often more if i do a second or even a third enema.

3 litters and sometime 4. Hopefully I will reach more over time.

I used to be able to take 6 quarts regularly, but then not getting filled really full each and every time, my volume shrank some. I need 2 to 3 quarts to get cleaned out. Then I can usually get 4 quarts with no problem. If I try for more, usually I can get another quart in me, but the 6 th quart is iffy. On some occasions I can get back to 6 quarts, but only once in a while. So for now I get cleaned out, get empty and then go for the 4 quart fill. Maybe by 2014 I will be able to get back to a regular filling of close to 6 quarts. That really fills me up full and feels great. I love the feeling of being so full I am about to burst, yet once I sit down, it all comes out really quickly.

Usually I take 2 quarts supine for clean out, etc. Sometine I let out only a little, then go for another 2 quarts. If I take 4 quarts at one time, it will cause a hands free orgasm at about 3.5-3.8 quarts. Never fails. Interesting feeling; First I feel cramping and distention, then just before the orgasm starts I get the feeling that I need to pee, then as soon as clench down ejaculation starts. Then a big release of water.

Most of the time it is 4 qt. If several are taken in a session, 5 qts. I can accomplish with a great deal of fullness and discomfort, but no pain.

Depending on how full I feel I'll give myself a small enema first, to clean some out of me. Than I will give myself a warm 2 quart sse followed by a 3 quart clear water enema. I tried 4 quarts once, but it was too much for me.

I also wonder about the safety of pressure. I just read an interesting post in another part of the site (there are so many posts I don't know if I could find it again) wherein a doctor allegedly stated that if the bag was no more than two feet high there should not be a problem with pressure. Anyone heard that before?

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Just take what you can take from a bag 2 feet above your head. Look it is what it is. Laying still and taking it over a period of time will enable you to hold more. 3 liters is what "gets it done" for me so why try more???

I am lucky enough to have a very safe and experienced local enema nurse. She is very careful and understands my limits. I usually receive a series of 3. First is 2 quart with soap. Second is 3 quart saline. Third is 4 quart rinse. She often uses 30" 32fr colon tube for the 4 quart. Never cramping, discomfort, etc.

I am in the same boat as Czorro as last summer I did not take as many enemas as I usually had done and am having trouble getting back to 6 quarts. I can get there sometimes, but usually have to settle for 4 quarts.

Bill

I don't understand why anyone would take the chance of hurting themselves. I like switchablesusie comments, it sounds like she is very knowledgeable on the subject. Personally I find 2 quarts is enough. But(isn't there always a but) when I use my JBL for some reason I can comfortable take a lot more without pain or cramping too badly. Anyone know the reason for this?

I've gotten to 3 quarts a few times, but just under 3 (a full 2500cc E-Z-EM bag) is usually more than enough. Just over 2 is best for my pleasure.

Now that JBL comment.... this is an observation, I think your colon will take more when it can't stop the flow due to the pressure.

I have one of those flow indicators on one of my bags, and even with the bag hung high, say 5 feet, I can stop and reverse the flow. With a JBL or shower shot the pressure is high enough that isn't going to happen, and you take more. Obviously the down side.... you could do some damage.

You might also be opening the ileo-cecal valve and getting water into small intestine.

When some experiments were done with retrograde enemas, they could always tell when the small intestine was full because when solution would flow into the stomach the patient would vomit.

I have a couple of the Italian made clear buckets (I love them because I know EXACTLY how much solution is in). At an E-Fest a few years ago my enemate came in second taking 5+ quarts, she is about 5' 4" so that amazed me, of course I had really cleaned her our first. The winner, a male, about 6' and probably close to 500lbs took over 6.

A few weeks later she wanted to try to see if she could get to 6 quarts. This gave a whole new meaning to "blowing it out of both ends." She didn't quite get to 6, and after the ordeal the only side effect, she was starved.

I have a couple of 1000cc piston syringes, always easy to get a fill with no cramping, but it is also interesting to feel the back pressure on the syringe handle.

The pressure in the JBL bag is limited by the receiver's weight.

The maximum pressure from a JBL bag is your weight divided by the square inches of the bag you are sitting on. The resultant PSI is pretty low--1 to 2 psi max unless you are grossly obese.

Furthermore, you are sitting on the bag, so the pressure of water in your colon is pushing back on the water in the JBL from a height higher than the bag, unlike using a hanging bag where your colon still creates back pressure, but it is below the level of the water in the bag

I was thinking it was a bit more, but lets put this in perspective....

A bag at 1 ft would be 0.43 psi, not usually much flow at this height.

2 feet, which is probably a good number if the outlet is at the recommended 18" = 0.87 psi

3 feet - 1.30 psi

4 feet - 1.73 psi

5 feet - 2.17 psi

6 feet - 2.60 psi

These numbers would be the head or top of the water, which means pressure goes down as the bag emptied.

I was thinking JBL pressure in the 5 psi range, but your numbers make sense and now I've got to do some tests to confirm, however the laws of physics are laws.

Where the shower shot is dangerous, you could be looking at 50 to 100 psi!

What is interesting is the flow rate... quite often the lower flow rate allows for longer retention, especially with a full colon trying to get around the contents.

Once cleaned out 2000 cc fill time is about a minute 10 seconds for me with the standard hose, about 1/3 less with the XL set-up with the larger diameter hose.

Now I've never had very good luck taking an enema in the siting position, except with a JBL, so there is something going on that needs to be accounted for. And would a check valve in the hose help for those time my colon is generating enough back pressure to send water all the way back up to that bag at 4 to 5 feet. One time I did use a y-connector and a piece of clear hose watch the fluctuations in pressure as the colon fills. I did see pressures equivalent to the head of the water or higher. But I don't think I've hung the bag at 6' very often.

Kind of scares me, my neighbors mom would hang the bag from the shower curtain rod and have her knee-chest in the tub. She would take well over a quart without batting an eyelash at about age 6.

Lincster, from a height of six feet, you only get a pressure of 2.6 psi if your colon [not a feces clog in a nozzle] is stopping the flow of the water creating a static pressure. You won't have 2.6 psi if the water is flowing, and since the 6 year old will complain of the pressure before the water stops flowing, the 2.6 psi is never reached inside the colon. Once the pressure in the colon is 2.6 psi, the flow stops.

Lincster, an interesting point regarding age and ability to tolerate enemas.

As a teenager I made my own gear, essentially an open top can, from an old coke bottle, a piece of garden hose and liberal amounts if duct tape. The release was a plug attached to a piece of string, lodged into the opening of the hose inside te bottle (with the bottom cut off). I then filled the bottle with water and inserted the nozzle. On tugging the string it released the plug and 2 litres flowed into me pretty quickly. The diameter ofthe hose meant the flow rate was high and it always emptied in less than two minutes.

Not once did I not manage to take the whole lot.

Contrast that with now. Quite often I'll get a bit of cramping after half a quart. This is witha narrower gauge hose and a more controlled flow. I do wonder how age plays a role in this.