Rigid Sigmoidoscope

Kennypan said:

To Moderator: Your reply to "zohe" was a bit judgmental, don't you think? Who are you to decide who should or should not have a particular medical exam? And this site is NOT just about "play" exams. People relate to their past or future exams with a definite eye toward sharing arousing exams. Let's get real!

As zohe hasn't replied I can reasonably conclude my presumption was correct - that she didn't need a sigmoidoscopy, just wanted to experience one. She will clarify that if she needs to. If she had presented to a doctor with appropriate symptoms then the doctor would have made a clinical decision and she wouldn't need to convince him or her.

Had you or zohe done an elementary Search you would have seen that there are several Topics discussing the subject of faking symptoms and having unnecessary examinations etc - one of them is at http://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=62970.msg435587#msg435587 and you will see from those that Moderators, members and ex-members alike object to time wasters on a number of grounds, ranging from increasing the cost of medical services, insurance premiums and not least denying a doctors time to genuine patients.

You ask who I think I am, to decide who should or should not have a particular medical examination. Well, I certainly don't decide who should have examinations but even as an ordinary member I would reserve the right to opine on who should not and that is those who don't need them but simply want one.

Yes, in this matter I am judgmental - just have you have judged me to be so - I make no apology.

I have never had a sigmoidascopy, but I have performed many. I had a three month rotation on the GI service, and back then the prep was castor oil, and the dreaded 3 H enema series. The sigmoidascope is 25 cm (10 inches)of gleeming stainless steel , and about one inch in diameter. This was before the comfortable flexible colonoscopes, and twilight anesthesia with Versed. The doctor was expected to insert the scope to the hilt. He could then report " Clear to 25 cm."

Never TRY THIS AT HOME ! The scope must be guided with direct visual control. Without visualization , it is all too easy to rupture the colon. The scope had a rounded egg like tip called the Obturator. This allowed insertion into the rectum, at which point it was removed.

The patient was made to kneel on a shelf of the Procto table, and to lay across the table. The table was then raised and the head lowered so the patient 's bottom was convienently at hand. The head was lowered to take the pressure off the abdomenial contents. One could not help but feel exposed and vulnerable at this point. The GI docs called it " Being ridden by the Siver Stallion. " This was an overtly sexual reference implying that the patient was being butt fucked by the scope.

Then came the insertion, and sliding the scope. This was only possible by inflating the colon with air from a hand pump. So not only did one have a large tube inserted, but one was pumped up like a balloon. More later

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Rhondo, I remember having a scope done one time back in the 70's that occured just exactly the way you describr it being done.

Here's Part 2 on the rigid scope. To be titled " Tales from the Procto Room." or perhaps "Tails from the Procto Room." Well I suppose I performed well over 100 of the prceedures. Most patients were moderately uncomfortable to very uncomfortable . Sometimes the nurses had to hold them to stop the squirming, which could cause damage. Some of the procto nurses enjoyed watching and restraining . When your fanny is high in the air, and your head is down, there is no doubt who has the power.

Most were done on older folks, but I remember four attractive women. The scope would be lying on a tray just beside the Procto table. Two ladies took a long look at the scope and shuddered. Then they asked if I was really going to insert that tube all the way inside. Of course, I made some appropriate medical reply like " yes, it is necessary, but it won't be too uncomfortable. " One lady said that if I did insert it, we would have to get married." I always admired her spunk. Rhondo

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I remembe being on the tabel, head down and the doc sliding the tube in and feeling likke I was going to fall on my head, which of course did not happen. I also to remember the assisting nurse staning behind the doctor taking in the view of a "full moon".

Had this done a couple of times pryor to colonoscopy. Kind of uncomfortable, I think she used air to inflate the area around the scope. She and the nurse were both telling me to take deep breaths while the doctor examined me. When she was done she let the air out and the discomfort immediately went away.

In college and in my 20's, I rode the 'Silver Stallion', due to some unexplained diarrhea issues. I went to the doc, who had me give a specimen for testing. The specimen came back negative for any parasites, or anything else that would cause the diarrhea. He suspected some type of ulcer, and scheduled a rigid, along with a barium enema for the same day. After a good flushing out at home, I went to the doc for the scheduled exam. I had the usual check in, and escorted to the exam room. There, he had me strip everything except my socks. I cannot remember which position he had me in, but I was either bent over the exam table, or up on all fours, with my ass in the air and my head resting on my folded arms. Either way, I was fully exposed, and I do not remember wearing a gown. None of it mattered to me, as I was desperate to find out what was causing the diarrhea. The exam could have been held in the clinic parking lot, and I wouldn't have cared. He lubed me up, and slide in the scope. I cannot remember how far, but I do remember the nice, cool feeling of the metal on my anus and rectum. My hole was on fire from being cleaned out, the coolness was welcome relief. He spent a good 10 to 15 minutes looking inside, and then determined that there was nothing wrong with my colon, and cancelled the barium enema. Based on the answers I gave him concerning stress at school, he then wrote me a script for some anti-diarrhea medication, which did the trick. The barium enema experience came later in life, and I'll post it on another thread.

In two days of play exams with a gi "doc" I had many experiences, including at intervals during the first day the introduction of three differently sized rigid sigmoidoscopes. I am a small woman, so there seemed to be a kind of pride for him in getting something so large inside me. He described them, as pediatric, adult, and surgical. On the second day, he had converted his table. It was an interesting table that moved from a regular exam table complete with stirrups, which on day two was converted to a protco table, which I had never seen before. I was told to kneel and hold onto some handles on the sides. He raised the table and tilted it forward uncomfortably far.

I, of course, because of the situation and the trust established, I was not asking questions but concerned. I could not see what he was doing. He first inserted the scope that he had called "pediatric". I was sore inside from other things we had done the previous day and all the enema preps. After he removed the smallest one, he inserted the next larger one, identified as "adult". Finally, you guessed it, the last largest one, he had called "surgical". I was hanging onto those handles for dear life not to cry out. Fortunately, he did not linger. I was well prepped, so the discomfort in receiving was all related to my tenderness from the barium enema, the colonoscopy, etc. from the previous day.

I had a great time. I shall never forget it.

I remember my experience with it! I was also in my 20s. This guy came out, he looked like a bald Frankenstein. He got me on the table and flipped it head down ass up! In went a finger, then a cool piece of metal. Not so bad going in, but on the way out he was looking at the curves. I only remember him doing something that really gave me a cramp, I jumped, and he shoved me back down on the table stating " easy boy, you going to hurt yourself! Knock me out will ya!

My only experience was .. Well... I purchased a couple of scopes online to use on my "patients" and though I should know first hand what my "patients" would be experiencing. So.. I took them out of the packages, cleaned them thoroughly (I'm a bit of a clean freak), lubed up and used them on myself. OMG.. I couldn't wait to use them in a play exam. A rigid sigmoidoscope is one of my favorite pieces of equipment to use during an exam. For anyone who is interested......I have openings in my schedule 😃

My GI play doc always does a rigid sigmoidoscopy. My sister has Crohn's so she had lots of them when she was younger but I had never had one. I was scared the first time because she said they really hurt but it wasn't that bad. He is very gentle and knows what he is doing so the instrument didn't hurt too much but the air he inflated me with sure did. And I wasn't exactly expecting every last inch of the thing lol.

The second time we played he used the standard adult size first and then the surgical one. The first time he used a plastic disposable scope but this time they were metal which felt much heavier inside me. The standard one was okay and he was in all the way in only a few seconds. It was so quick it took my breath away lol. But the surgical one was almost more than I could handle. And he had it in *all the way* just as quick. That thing is huge! And really cold! It hurt because it was so big and you can feel your guts being wrenched around but again the air is the worst part, for me anyways. Maybe if the air went in slowly but it feels like it FORCES things open and thats what really hurts. Not that having your guts rearranged by a big metal tube doesn't hurt but the air is a really nasty pain that lasts quite a while after its done.

Now that I have had a few rigid sigmoids I know what to expect. A regular adult size doesn't bother me at all but I really tense up if he says he wants to take a "closer look" because I know he is going to use the surgical scope. An exam is never over unless he looks at every last inch and he always comes out a lot slower than he goes in.

I have had several as part of medfet exams and I enjoy them. I also do them when I am doing a play exam for a woman, if she is interested in one. I use a prep of a soapsuds enema followed by a fleet enema. I have a 25 cm (10") scope. After the patient assumes a knee chest position, it is introduced under direct vision as far as is comfortable. Air is also introduced to expand the colon to make the scope easier to introduce. Afterwards, I offer a saline enema to help expel air. One should not do these exams unless one has had some instruction on doing them, as they can be harmful if not done correctly.

Had it done when I was 18yrs old for nervous stomach problems. Dr referred me to specialist and I was scared out of my mind. There was actually a hospital in this city for anal and rectal problems. Was told to have only liquids for 12 hrs and was given 2 or 3 fleet enemas to take at home before going for the appt. Older nurse told me to strip down all the way and lay on table and put this small hand towel over my middle section. Dr and nurse came into room and told me what they were going to do then had me turn onto my left side. The small towel was removed/fell off . The nurse stood in front of me on that side of the table and had me put my feet and lets forward til they were off of the table from my knees down and kept straight, while the dr pulled my hips all the way back til my butt was at the edge of the table. The nurse put herself between the table and the back of my calves keeping my legs straight and off the table. Dr started inserting some q tips dry and telling me it would hurt a little bit because the culture swabs could not have any lubrication. I couldn't hold still and lurched forward and stiffened up. I could feel them going just inside a little and him swirling them around. He apologized. I was not given any sedatives etc. Then my rectal temperature was taken by the nurse while I heard the dr placing items on a metal tray behind me. Then dr said he was going to give me a visual examination of my anal area and spread me way open and prying cheeks way open and then trying to open my hole, with nurse helping with this. He told me to take a deep breath and bear down like I was trying to move my bowels and then hold it , then relax, and then he wanted me to squeeze my sphincter real tight and relax. I had never been looked at down there before for such a long time and so deeply. Now he said he would be begin to visualize inside with the use of a metal scope. I was so scared I was actually shaking. he said not to be afraid that I would feel him apply some lubricating jell to my butt. The jell he applied to my butt hole was real cold and he kept sliding his finger up and down and finally slidingit inside all the way and twisting it all around. It was actually not as bad as the q tips. Then I felt a cold metal scope tip start going in slowly and making sucking noises as he pulled it back and forth and turned it around and around. It was far inside and I could feel a cold piece of metal up against the back of my balls which I later found out was the handle. The nurses job was to keep my cheeks spread open and then to keep pushing the scope tightly inside me which she did a good job of cause I could feel the handle firmly up against the back of my balls. I am not sure but I think that the big scope was passed thru the smaller one that the nurse kept pushing inside me. This scope was miserable and long, the air they keep pumping in caused bad cramps and made me have lots of poking around pain all up inside me. I was sure I would pass out. They kept talking to me saying I was doing good etc. and to keep breathing real deep slow breaths. I thought it was real brutal how they moved it all around in different directions and pulled it out and continuously rammed it back way into my butt. I couldn't hardly hold still and kept moving my feet against one another and pounding my fist on the table. While all this is going on, other medical people came into the room to get things out of cabinets. After about 15 minutes of this torture they took out, and layed it on the tray and said he was successful in visualizing the lower 22 centimeters of my gut. I don't know how many inches that is. I think about 10?? Then they took out the small scope and wiped about a gallon of grease off my butt and balls. Told me to lay there on my back and relax for a while and gave me some water. Before I got up, the dr told me to lay on my left side again while he spread me open again to look for any signs of bleeding. Then I was told I could get dressed and leave. I wondered if my butt would ever tighten back up again, and felt violated for sure.

I have to go to Hospital for a Flexible Sigmoidoscope Exam in two weeks following an incident 2 weeks ago where I had Blood in Diarrhoea.

Please can anyone go into detail as to what is involved and what the difference (if any) is between that and a rigid.

By "Flexible" I assume its a bendy tube like the ones they use to look inside stomach.

My examination when in A & E consisted of a very thorough DRE, Prostate and Genital Exam including having my prostate examined, Meatus spread and Testicles pushed up high into their cavities.

This happened twice within 6 hours, once on initial examination and then again by the Doctor before been discharged.

Very interesting exam and although I naturally assumed I would get a rectal, I definitely was taken aback at getting two very intimate genital exams.

So totally unexpected but absolutely wonderful and embarrassing to boot.

You are right, the scope is flexible. Scope is inserted and pushed inside. They also inject air, which is uncomfortable. Cramps are pretty intense.

I've had the flexible sig several times, but I've never heard of the rigid sig.

With the advent of flexible scopes and the retirement of older docs who weren't trained on them, the rigid scopes have gone out of favor. They were substantially more dangerous.

Yeah, I had it done twice, but it was a flexible scope. Had to clean myself out prior to my appointment, but that wasn't so bad. Nurse had me put in a gown. Doc came in, laid me back on the exam table, mounted my legs which exposed my anus, and proceeded to insert the tube. Nurse was standing behind him, so the gown generally covered my body. Wasn't so bad, although the air pressure was uncomfortable. Took about 10 minutes or about, but didn't have any problems. However, got home and really had to crap; had the runs. Didn't find anything unusual, fortunately.

In 1973 or 74 I had a 'rigid' sig exam/ It was done by the doctor, who was a bit introverted and didn't say much. I don't remember all the instructions prior to the exam...must have been tho...I probably did a couple of enemas. Of that I'm sure. Anyway the doctor kept saying, "Am I hurting you....am I hurting you?" I would reply in the negative and then added that I would tell him if he was hurting me. --but he kept repeating.

Tiring of his not abiding my comments I finally just said, "No, but I think I'm falling in love!"

The nurse practically fell to the floor in hilarious laughter...the doctor turned bright red and the exam was over.

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In 1973 or 74 I had a 'rigid' sig exam/ It was done by the doctor, who was a bit introverted and didn't say much.

Why do you think someone goes into what was called proctology back then? Assholes don't ask questions.

Most of the details have been covered. There's another use for a rigid scope. It can be used as a sort of colonic irrigation device Details snipped but they can be modified for a water inflow&outflow simply by using a suitably hose modified CORK after removing Obturator.

"The Deep Lavage is performed by using a rigid long scope and a Lavage stopper kit connected to a colonic machine"

I have never had a rigid sigmoidoscopy, but back in 1973 I had a friend who was extremely anal retentive. When his doctor advised him that he needed to see a proctologist for bowel problems my friend was experiencing, my friend told me he was going to cancel the appointment his doctor had made. I advised him that that seemed like a bad idea, since something major might be wrong with him.

Being the voyeur that I am, I offered to go with him for the exam. I was sure the proctologist was not going to let me go into the procedure room with my friend, but when my friend insisted I go in there with him, the doctor said it would not be a problem.

I was a little nervous because I didn't know exactly how my friend would react to the procedure, since he was extremely sensitive to anyone touching him "down there".

Actually, he endured the procedure much better than I had anticipated.

As soon as the nurse escorted us to the procedure room, she told my friend to undress from the waist down, and take a seat on one of the chairs, covering himself with a sheet she had provided him.

Within a matter of minutes the doctor came in, asked my friend to come to the foot of this special tilting table, and to kneel on the protruding shelf. My friend knelt on the shelf, then the doctor stepped on a pedal that made the table raise up a few feet, then started to tilt until my friends' head was almost touching the floor, and his butt and feet were in the air.

As I was sitting there I started having weird thoughts . . . like, when a person is asked to undress from the waist down, why do they usually take off their socks? Logically, leaving your socks on would keep your feet warm, and there would be absolutely no reason to take them off.

But my friend looked so pathetic, with his butt and bare feet sticking up in the air. It was also weird watching my friend struggling with the fact that he now had to either face me or the doctor standing beside him. Ultimately he chose to face me, and when the doctor started to insert the scope, my friend's face just went ashen. His mouth dropped open, and his toes curled up. All he could say was "Oh, God!" And since he had never had anything inserted into his butt, he was completely overcome by the sensations. He just kept repeating "I have to go to the john!". The doctor tried to reassure him that it was just a sensation, but everytime the scope was advanced or moved, my friend insisted again that he needed to "poop"!

When the scope was finally removed, my friend looked like he had been hit by a truck. His face was flushed, there were actually tears in his eyes, and as the doctor lowered the table, my friend was told to just lie still for a few minutes until he could gather his composure.

I know my friend was really embarrassed and ashamed that I witnessed his humiliation, but I tried to reassure him that I was sure most people would react the way he did, but he knew better. Obviously, that exam was never mentioned by us again.

I have had 4 or 5 examinations with the rigid sigmoidoscope. My doctor made them a part of my annual physical. I loved every one of them. I found them extremely stimulating. Since then I have gone through the flex sig and find it nowhere near as satisfying as the rigid. Additionally I find that the flex sig is being used less and less in favor of colonoscopies. The only thing I find rewarding about a colonoscopy is the prep. I always fake not being totally cleaned out so that the nurse administers an enema prior to the procedure.

My most rewarding experience regarding rigid sigmoidoscopies was being in the room when my wife underwent the procedure during her annual physical. Watching the doctor lubricate her with his finger and then sliding the scope into her bottom gave me a once in a lifetime thrill.

Ouch without a doubt, can do that again though.

Had a doc once who did this every time I had a complete physical (about once a year). Gave me a fleet enema, then led me naked to a bench (in another room) that put me in a "v" position with my ass in the air. He lubricated my rectum and inserted a tube (which he later showed me, and I would never have expected it to be so large), and examined my colon while his nurse held a hose over the sink to receive the expelled fecal matter (I'm guessing).

Oh no my meter is registering again.

Notunrestricted said

Had a doc once who did this every time I had a complete physical (about once a year). Gave me a fleet enema, then led me naked to a bench (in another room) that put me in a "v" position with my ass in the air. He lubricated my rectum and inserted a tube (which he later showed me, and I would never have expected it to be so large), and examined my colon while his nurse held a hose over the sink to receive the expelled fecal matter (I'm guessing).

NOT GONNA HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE

We have a section for stories and fantasies.

Please use it.

Yes I had the test done by my gastro doctor to check my sigmoid colon, I didn't like the test at all it hurt and was very uncomfortable for me. I was being tested because my sigmoid colon was going in to spasms.

Had it done when I was 34 years old. It was done in local sanatorium by female doctor, nurse gave me 2 liters enema 1 hour before that exam. I felt full when instrument was fully inserted, there was only me and doctor in exam room, I was on all fours.

I have not had the procedure done by a doctor, but rather a well practiced friend. She is very skilled at it as she has had extensive previous training.

She does it in such a gentle way, I am at a loss as to how to describe the loving technique she uses, but it is convincing to say the least.

I truly love this instrument. I own 2 of these and enjoy them on occasion, being properly and most carefully inserted to the full length, in preparation of the long colon tube.

It is a most pleasurable sensation that is like no other and considering I enjoy 40-50" of colon tube inserted for a thorough enema session,

I originally had no kind of expectation that this metal tube would produce more pleasurable sensations than even the deep insertion of the much longer colon tube, again....in a much different way.