Colonic Hydrotherapy

Washnit...the only thing in common with a colonic and a colon tube is the word 'colonic'. Back in the 20's and 30's some practioners used what is known as a cecum tube, which was the length of the large intestine and varied in thickness. It required considerable skill to snake those monsters up into your colon and with it came considerable risk of perforating your intestinal wall. The therapists today would not attempt such a procedure. The whole point is getting water to the end of your large intestine and they can accomplish this with a small nozzle and some pressure behind the flow.

So the colon tubes that I see advertised and what not are not necessarily long, just capable of delivering high volume. Is that correct?

Washnit...the colon tubes come in lengths of 20 to 30 inches and vary in thickness.

Size 50 french is probably the thickest and the smallest is about a size 18. Anything smaller is a catheter. Hospitals may use colon tubes, but colonic irrigation therapists can achieve high volume with repeated water inflow and outflow that will eventually get rid of all the impaction.

During a colonic, a nozzle about 6"-8" long is used, NOT a colon tube. It is called a speculum and allows water to flow in and out as directed by the therapist. I have had several colonics, all with a "closed" system. No odor, no noises. They made me feel very good afterwards, however the are very clinical (not erotic) and a bit costly.

I think everyone here knows what an enema is, so here is the difference between the open and closed types of colonic machines that I have used.

There are two main types of colonic machines. In the "Closed" type colonic, you lay down on a table/bed and a therapist inserts a tube about an inch or less in diameter into your rectum about 2-3 inches. This tube is connected to a thinner water tube and water flows into your intestine. When you feel full, the therapist switches a valve on the colonic machine and the water and waste flows out of you. The tube is basically a Y shaped tube where one arm is thin-where clean water flows and the other two arms of the Y are thick where water and waste flows out. The tubes stay in you while you have a colonic. I like this type of system and have about three a year like this. The other is an "Open" type of system. In this, you lay down on the bed and there is a small nozzle about 1/2" or less in diameter that is inserted about 2-3 inches into the rectum. The water flows continuously with this system. When you want water to flow in, you just squeeze your anus closed against the nozzle. When you feel full and want to expell, the nozzle stays in also, and you just push out the water, just like with an enema. Open and closed system both work, but I like the closed much better. One of my complaints about the open system is that sometimes the waste pushes out the nozzle and you have to re-insert it during the colonic, This can happen a number of times during a treatment, and is one of the reason I don't like it. I also find the closed system to be much more relaxing. Other people might like the open type better.

Another difference between the open (Libbe) and closed systems is that the open system is often a 'do it yourself'. The colon therapist may set you up and start you off, but then leave the room and it becomes a self administration process. The therapist may come back and check on you every 5-10 minutes, but really plays a passive role. The closed system requires the constant administrations of the therapist. Guess which process I prefer...........

Well the main reason I started this thread was not to discuss the mechanical differences in the processes of an enema and colonic but for people to describe the inner feelings of fullness that you get during both procedures and how they differ. Since a lot more water goes into you during a colonic, do you get a fuller sensation that you would during a two-quart enema (even though you don't retain the water during the colonic)? Also, does your belly distend noticeably during a colonic?

Unsure,

In terms of internal 'fullness', pressures/intestinal distentions are less in a colonic (my opinion). A closed-system colonic with a skilled therapist will not go above 2.0, maybe 2.25 psi. The therapist just won't allow it for fear of participating in something harmful and potentially injurous. This despite all the admonitions that "I can take it, keep it going...."

In an open system colonic, the pressure is even less because there is an open outflow hose that simultaneously drains as the fill occurs.

It's hard to say whether a colonic noticeably distends the abdominal area more than an enema....colonics are adminsted with the patient on his/her back. I've never had a colonic in any other position. Being on your back, the degree of distention is not as noticeable as in a Simms or knee-chest position for an enema.

If distention and pressure is your goal, I would suggest going the enema route.

From the perspective of pleasure (not medical), can someone tall me if

they enjoy a long enema or a colonic?

You frequently see cautions about electrolite loss, adding salt to enemas, etc. But the flow, volume and length of a colonic would seem to make them even more hazzardous from that perspective. Any one experienced know if they take that into account or if it reveals that the issue is really

more an old wives tale for normal enema receivers.

Between the two, I'm more interested in the question about relative pleasure than electrolite loss:-)

There are two types of colonic systems (see elsewhere in this forum for the descriptions) and I have enjoyed both. But to answer your question concerning pleasure of a colonic versus an enema: that would depend on what aspect of the overall experience you enjoy most. Me, I enjoy the feeling of being filled (so, that would be mounting pressure.) Others might enjoy the repeated penetration of the nozzle as it is first inserted for the enema and then removed to allow you to empty.

( Which is why some folks really get off on using a bulb syringe - that requires many in/out sequences to get full. )

So during my colonic sessions, after several fills and empties, I attempt to take as much as possible without allowing any water to be released.

Hope that helps.

Actually we are comparing apples to oranges in terms of sensations and unless you use a colon tube results as well. Most colonic specialists will revers the flow before you get the feelings of a fullness that you get with an enema.

I do enemas weekly and colonics about once a month. -- DD

For me, the advantage of a colonic (closed system) is having the therapist working with me to achieve a thorough cleansing. The chitter chatter and the massaging of my stomach are plusses as well (vs. doing an enema solo). The big disadvantage of a colonic is $$$....a one-hour session is $100 for me. My therapist is a retire RN and totally professional. On two occasions over the past five years she has given me two hour long sessions prior to colonoscopy which avoided me having to do the dreaded "GOLytely" routine the night before.

I believe what you say about reversing the flow before the client feels full is only partially true. I have had several therapists who would fill me high, all of the way to the illieo-cecal valve. I have also had the ascending colon become quite firm. Thus I felt quite full and ready for release after a colonic massage.

I have also had therapists that only partially filled my colon in fear of injuring me. For the most part, they do what you ask them to and like the enema, a colonic is an act of caringand a gift from the practicioner to the recipient.

It is the best combination.A good Colonic Therapist will always try to be friendly. Probably the best opportunities are to be found in the London enema scene.

BOBC

I am getting older and wanted to experience a colonic. I talked with my Dr and he recommended a clinic. I had one and signed up for 5 more. I really enjoyed it. More clinical than an enema, but is a different feeling. Very relaxing and soothing. The clinic has cut back to a 40 minute colonic instead of an hour. The cost of inflation.

Jagson

I believe the difference is: Colonic involves a very long soft rubber tube that is inserted way into the colon, with a paralleling tube that returns the water out of the system after flushing your colon. Therefore, there is no need to use the commode for natural release of water. Enema is water injected into your rectum with a hand syringe or a nozzle attached to a tube from a hot water bottle type bad. Gravity injects the water, then the nozzle is removed for the water to be expelled. It is more fun with a enema, because you feel the nozzle going in and out, and the water flowing in and then the release on the commode. Corrections if I'm wrong.

A colonic is likely to be done in a very clinical fashion that may involve some good interaction with the therapist. Those who take or administer colonics are likely not adverse to good old fashioned enemas as part of good colon health.

A good colonic, with either an open or closed system, can be very relaxing and enjoyable. A massage will enhance the overall experience. A good enema though, given in a sensual manner or setting, is always superior to a colonic in my mind and is the essence of my fetish.

I setup my enema bag to be continuously filled by the showerhead and commenced to flush myself for a very long while. Wow, what a difference cleaning myself out in the bathtub. I have had a hard time just letting it go in the tub until today, and it was liberating. It is by far the most water I have taken, and I feel wonderful.

My question is at what point do you go from taking an enema to doing a colonic, I must have moved 10 gallons of water today.

I had about three colonics quite a few years ago.The lady ran the colonic business from an apartment in my home town.I saw har ad in a local paper and gave her a call.I told her how much I love enemas and I have doing them for many years.We made an appointment to discuss the proceture,she was a hippy health nut, kind of wierd.On our first meeting,she was'nt sure if she wanted to give the colonics because of my enema fetish but the more we talked the more anxious she got to give a me colonic,she only charged 15 bucks a session,so I gave it a try.

I found the colonic very soothing and confertable,during the session I would ask her to fill me up a few times,she smiled and said sure,as she filled me,I would say,oh that feels so good.She filled up a couple more times until only clear water came out.It was quite an experiance for sure.Let the good times flow.w/m72yrs/Western Ma

As an enema enthusiast, I had never had a colonic until the early 1980's. I went to a professional colonic therapist and it was a pump machine and actually not that erotic. Later in the late 80's I went to a woman who specialized in sexual enemas, catheters, and colonics. She made it a very pleasurable experience. She gave me a conventional enema first with about a two quart bag, hung about four feet above me using a douche nozzle; she had me lay on my left side. She threatened me not to touch my penis or masturbate during my release. After I dumped the first filling, she got a large, three or four quart bag with a long colonic tube, the end was closed and the opening on the side. She hung the bag barely three feet, probably less, on a music type stand and had me lay on my left side. She emptied the air in the hose and applied a liberal dose of KY jelly to my anus and to the hose as she slid the thing into my rectum. Then she started the flow, it was very subtle due to the low pressure. She continued to slide the hose into my bowels and after a minute or two she had me roll onto my back and position my legs bent and apart. More KY and more insertion. After about two quarts, I began to feel full and my belly was showing, my penis was also becoming very stiff. She spoke to me as a mild dominatrix, chastising men as only good to make sperm and how easy it is to get a man to spit his load, etc. As the bag become nearly empty she massaged my colon which was a most unique feeling, a strange uncomfortably full sensation with a pleasure tinge, it was different.

The pressure on my prostate and seminal vessels was intense and I was leaking a lot of pre-cum from my urethra. She them informed my it was time for my orgasm and slipped one hand up and down my belly and across my nipples while she pumped my pens with her other hand. I came almost instantly, not so much in spurt distance, but a great deal of semen. The colonic hose slipped out of my anus with each ejaculatory pulse/throb. She then removed the remainder of the tube and handed me a towel and said: "Clean up that nasty man juice and go drain your guts." When I came back from the toilet, she said in a much nicer manner: "I'll bet your insides feel all nice and clean and your front business all drained and relaxed." Truer words were never spoken. Octane

Several years ago a colonic clinic in Denver spread I believe typhoid or some very serious disease through the use of improperly sterilized equipment. It resulted in the death of at least one person, and the cause was definitely established to be the fault of the clinic.

The incident of the illness ans death was from a therapist in Montrose, Colorado. I had used this lady one time and never went back as the equipment she used was old and in bad condition ans mostly homemade. That incident happend in the late 1960's. Since that time the USDA has set standards for Colon Therapy Equipment. Now all hoses ans speculum's are required to be disposable.

I have been taking colonics and high enemas for 60 plus years. On occasion I have experienced similar problems as Shemda. I will usually then do 2 or 3 colonics to clean myself out. This works for me but I am not medically trained so can only state what works for me. But colonics have kept me going for years Vs Colon surgery and a colostomy Bag.

I hope you get to feeling better Shamda.

I thank you for posting this because it's just one more thing to dissuade me from getting a colonic. I had a gravity-fed colonic a few years ago but I don't believe it was performed properly because the water was barely in me and was allowed to exit through the exhaust tube without even going into me. I've wanted very much to get a machine colonic to experience a great sense of fullness but am afraid of the side effects.

Earlier this year I had my first bag enema and I believe I experienced water intoxication from it because I felt very odd for a day afterward. If you consider that a colonic is equal to ten or more enemas, that's a big risk of a similar reaction and your report just reinforces my suspicion that colonics can be risky, at least for certain people. Plus, you now have to go to your doctor and say you had a colonic, which will probably be embarrassing. I don't know if I need to have that kind of bad experience just to feel a rush of water in my intestine!

Welcome to the colon therapy club. I have been doing colonics for 50 or so years. During this time I have had just about every type of colon therapy or high enema equipment used on me that was actively at that time.

One of the best colon therapist that I went to was a medical doctor trained in Germany, She use gravity flow equipment consisting of 2 glass conical shaped containers that held about 5 gals. of water. She filled one with 105 degree water and the other with 85 degree water and she alternated between the two.

But the most outstanding part of her therapy was that she used a 5 or so foot 1/2 inch colon tube that she would slowly work all the way through the colon to the cecum. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NO ONE OTHER THAM A PROGESSIONAL SHOULD TRY11 Once the tube was in place she alternated hot and cold water as she massaged the colon. Even though the colon was being washed out as she worked the tube in, it was surprising how much more fecal matter was worked loose by her massaging the colon through the abdomen wall. By the time the treatment was over she had rum at least 25 gallons of water through your colon.

She gave me a glass of lemon flavored drink before starting the procedure and one after she had finished. She ended the treatment by filling your colon up with water and sending you to the toilet to empty out. And even them you still passed a lot of brown stuff.

I now have my own professional colon therapy equipment at home. I have taken several colon therapy classes so that I am prepared to administer colonics to myself, which I have to do every other day. The alternative being having a large part of my colon removed and using a colostomy bag.

Since I have always enjoyed enemas and colonics this is a much preferable procedure for me.

Anyone considering doing colonics, should look for an I-ACT trained professional.

Yesterday July 7 I had my first visit with a Colon Hydrotherapist in New Paltz New York. I really didnt know what to expect and was a little hesitant to go at first. I expected to meet an older woman 60ish. Upon arriving i had to fill out some forms and a general health questionaire. Then the therapist came in and i was totally surprised to find that she was maybe in her late thirties. She explained everything she was going to do and put you very much at ease. I found her very professional and very competent. She was relatively very inexpensive $100 for the first session and $85 dollars for any subsequent session. Her equipment was very new and very clean. Her office and exam room were very clean and neat too. She used new tubing on every patient. I was very impressed and enjoyed my session so much that I booked another session in a few weeks.

The New Age Spa in New Paltz also offers colonics. I used to go there and spend the day taking advantage of the grounds, the exercise room, saunas, pools, etc. Highly recommended.

Now hydrotherapy is something that really fascinates me. But I would find it so erotically charged that an erection would be hard to hide. Therapists must have to screen potential male patients carefully to make sure they are there for "health" reasons. Too bad. Because otherwise what a turn-on!

I am sure that by now my colonic therapist has figured out that I am not there for a colonic! After visits to her over the years, and graduating from her just giving me a colonic to me asking her to give me an enema is reason to believe that she knows that many of her clients, mainly the men, are there for sexual gratification and the benefits of a colonic irrigation.

Like David, I've had many colon therapists over the years in Europe and the U.S. I think it safe to say that no therapist with half her/his wit believes that all their male patients have health considerations at the top of the list of reasons for needing a colonic.

As I've struck up conversations with the therapists over the years, the one common denominator is that they were all receivers of colonics before becoming practitioners. Some favor enemas before the session, and my current therapist of 7 years offers a plain water enema before the colonic session (with disposable bags...no need to bring your own), but I generally do this at home before going to her office. Having her give the enema takes too much time away from the colonic fills and releases. We talk about our own enema preferences during the colonic session which makes for interesting conversation. I consciously avoid turning the conversation to anything in a sexual context, and think the therapist respects this.

If I understand your question, you are asking at what point do repeated enemas become a colonic? If you have moved 10 gallons of water through your system, then you should have achieved the desired result of a colonic i.e. having water fill and flush your entire large intestine. Remember, an enema is taken to get relief from constipation and may require only a few pints to achieve a bowel movement, whereas a colonic irrigation does just that...irrigate the entire colon. Every person may have a different capacity for filling their colon so there is no set volume that will distinguish between enema and colonic. A colonic irrigation therapist may spend 20 minutes or a full hour with you depending when she or he sees a clear return from your evacuation. It's not about volume, but about clarity.