Ivory Soap Flakes, where to get ?

I like using liquid Ivory soap, it is gentle and soothing but you only need to put in a small squirt of the liguid soap to do the job. I like a 4qt enema the best and retain in for 5 to 10 minutes but most should start out with a 2qt one first before trying a 4qt.

I've read that the proper way is to allow the water to flow over a bar of pure soap while filling the bottle. This prevents from getting too much soap. Works fine for me.

You should not use ivory liquid because is is stronger than the ivory soap bar.

I had my sub grate(I have a special grater just for this job) a bar of Ivory soap. I then put about 2 tsp. to 1 T of the flakes in a yogurt container. I fill it about 2/3's full of hot water and stir to mix. I let this sit for at least a day. Then I mix most of this with the enema water I am going to give him. It will be a bit solid, yet soft. When enough water is mixed with it it will flow through a hose and a nozzle. I have even taken a syringe and slowly injected the soap mix into the flowing enema hose (my sub is a handy devil when it comes to making things to play with). He can lay sprawled out on the bed watching the thicker soap travel through the clear tube. (he enjoyed that alot). You do have to be careful to start out with a small amount of soap the first time. You can always add a bit more the next till it reaches the point you find it uncomfortable. But be sure to take a clean water rinse to remove any lingering soap residue. Happy playing.

I have used both. For a good cleaning out I find the liquid does a much better job. I use 1 tablespoon per quart of water. I have used it for years and have never had a problem with it.

I'm going to give myself my first bag enema tonight, using ivory soap. so i'll let you know!

Don't use the liquid Ivory -- it's really a detergent.

If you take a new or dry bar of Ivory and a good sharp knife, you can gently shave the bar and get a powder of soap. Too hard on the knife, and it's shavings, which I agree are too hard to dissolve. But you can put them in the bag anyway, and they'll probably end up in your butt.

I still do Ivory sometimes, but usually I use Dr. Bronners because it's so easy. And, right now is the time to go up and fill a bag with DrB and come back down here and read more of this wonderful insanity. I know the time's right because the little blue pill has just started kicking in, and I now have about 4 hours to play while the old equipment is really working. 😉

Ivory soap or any soap or additive is something I don't use. I will answer your question with a question, "what does soap do to your circulatory system, renal system or brain once it enters the blood system. I have for years received great results from plain water or normal saline. The addage,"if you wouldn't put it in your mouth, don't put it in the other end either" rings true for your rule and guide.

Enjoy your enemas for their health benefits, but play safe!

I love the smell of an ivory soap enema and yes I use the bar. I also love Dr bonners peppermint soap

I have always used the liquid Ivory soap. It works well for me, if I do not use too much 😉

Ivory soap is a mild soap purer than many (fewer chemical additives) which dissolves easily. Like any soap, it tends to irritate the colon, causing the urge to evacuate--which is, after all, the purpose. So yes, an Ivory soap enema is harder to retain than one without.

Some people claim it burns. Others claim mild irritation. Still others don't seem to feel it much.

You don't want to retain any type of soapy filling for long, since your colon is way too good at absorbing what's in it. You also want to administer a rinse enema soon after you empty the Ivory one, to rinse the colon walls.

By "Ivory," yes, people mean the cheap soap the smells sweet and floats and is available everywhere.

Put a bar on a plate in the microwave and nuke it on high for 90 seconds sometime. What it does (I won't spoil it, but I will say it's freakin' amazing) makes it easier to get a reasonably-sized portion to use in your bag without having to whittle the bar.

Merlot, font of info on occasion

I don't have any tools, any recommendations on things that I can easily buy at a drug store that aren't suspicious, or things around the house to get this stuff in?

It's a little harder for a guy, since he can't just mutter, "Female problems" when someone finds a bag and hose.

Several of the men I've known online over the years had fairly good hiding places for their equipment, and kept it to a minimum. Often it was among tools, in a garage, basement, or workroom, among hobby supplies, pool chemicals, anywhere the household members were not likely to snoop.

At least one kept it in a metal toolbox, old and rusty, which he kept locked with a stacked-steel padlock. He worried about the worst-case scenario in which he died and his wife and family had to go through his things. Finding a locked box, beat to hell and rusting, and no key, he hoped they'd discard it. I remember he picked up the box for next to nothing at a garage or estate sale and knew exactly what he'd do with it.

I'd recommend visiting a discount or drug store, maybe not your neighborhood one where they know you or you could see a neighbor, and buying a douche bag like this one: http://www.drugstore.com/qxp72138_333181_sespider/goodhealth/faultless_premium_combination_douche_enema_and_water_bottle_system_2_qt_capacity.htm Naturally, you'll also want to pick up some toothpaste, a magazine, some light bulbs, Scotch tape, and enough other miscellany to deflect undue attention from your main purchase, right?

The same system is sold at many online stores, too, including Amazon. If you make a purchase from an innocent online retailer in the next month or two, you can always act like it's a Christmas gift and refuse to let anybody see what's in the box. (Aren't you smart!)

Merlot, semi-devious

Get a closed top bag that doubles as a hot, or cold, water bottle. Just claim that you need it for aches and pains. Of course, you just never got around to tossing the hose and other stuff. No worries.

For the soap, use the fine side of a box grater. One, two, three, and you have a lot of soap that will disolve quickly. Grate it onto a sheet of typing (printer paper) and it becomes a funnel to get it into the bag easily.

Ivory soap the same as you find on the shelf at the grocery store. There is also Kirks Castile soap and Conti castile soap. Ivory is really mild but is really irritating for some people , Kirks castile is coconut oil based and really dried me out. conti is mild but still irritating. After using any of the above for an enema a rinse enema with baking soda is recommended as it will stop the irritation and is quite soothing.Goat milk soap is the best that I have found for an enema.It can be mixed very stong and does not 'burn' like ivory, it will produce good results and a rinse is usually not necessary, unless you really want to. I do

You can also find ivory in liquid form sometimes. Any kind of castile soap works well.

I've found it hard to retain with any soap but ivory is mild an gentle. Not as hardcore as say Castile Eucalyptus.

I think I read somewhere that Eucalyptus wasn't good to take internally.

My favorite way to do the ivory is to put a whole bar into the bag (open top), fill about 1/4 full and then mix, shake and stir (with douche nozzle) until a nice frothy mix is achieved. I like mine strong and usually take multiple fillings with the soapy water (4-6) before a clear water rinse. There is some mild cramping, but I kind of like that. I've never had any after the enema bowel problems with the ivory soap. Tried castile a couple of times, but I think the irration and cramping went way beyond pleasurable. I'll stick with ivory.

If one is looking for a good SSE cleanout without worry of irratating the colon, I found that using Dr. Bonner's Unscented Baby-Mild Pure Castile Soap to be very effective.

I use one tablespoon to two quarts of water. Try using more or less to your needs.

Does anybody know how to make an Ivory soap enema that repeatably has the same strength. Using a bottle of liquid castile soap you can measure the amount of soap used, take the enema and judge if the soap amount was too little, too much, or just right. (That is what Goldilocks experienced with the Three Bears. The enema water in Poppa enema bag was too strong, in the Momma's enema bag it was too weak but Baby Bear's enema bag was just right. At first I was going to say the temperature was too hot but that was the porridge.) Allot of variables seem to affect the strength of the soap solution. Depending on the water temperature, the moisture content of the soap, the surface area of the soap bar and the soak time, the soapiness of the solution can be all over the place. The milkiness of the solution is a hint as to the strength of the solution but is hard to judge. I find a newly unwrapped bar of soap will make an enema with a lot more zing to it, even though the solution has about the same milkiness to it. I tried keeping the soap in a container of water and letting it dissolve but the soap seems to chemically change (it seems to loose its soapiness). I was hoping to come up with a liquid version of an Ivory soap bar that I could measure out, like liquid castile soap I mentioned above. The other problem with liquefying the bar soap is that the liquid is not the same strength (The weaker solution floats to the top and the bottom of the container is very thick.) The difference in the thickness is enough that shacking does not really help.

I have tried tasting the enema water (before any has been given) but it seem to take about at least 5 minutes before you can judge the strength of the solution. It seems to get stronger over time. I think the soapy enema water had the same effect inside of you. This is why is is possible to administer the enema without too much difficulty but get harder to retain the longer you hold it. Plus it is hard to get the soap taste out of your mouth.

I thought about cutting the soap into small same size pieces. If you then let the pieces fully dissolve in a fixed quantity of water you could test the resulting solution and tune the size of the pieces to get the solution to the desired strength. The problems I see with this method is the pieces are fairly small. How many test enemas will you have to take to get it right. After a test enema you have to wait a while for you insides to recover before you can judge a change in the solution strength. You have probably noticed it is harder to take each successive soap enemas, if you are taking series of enemas. This iterative procedure may have to be repeated for each new bar of soap. Weighting the quantity of soap used would probably work better, if you can get a scale with a fine enough resolution.

I think your bodies reaction to the soap has to do with the alkalinity of the soap. Does anybody know of an easy, cheap method of measuring how base the soap solution is, in the range and with the resolution needed. I think the body has a pH of about 7.4. I do not know how far off this number you have to go for the proper strength of solution. I know you do not have to add much acid (lemon juice or vinegar) to make an enema that is hard to take. The interesting thing about acid is that the body reacts to the acid right away. This is why it is so hard (many cramps and the body instantly rejecting the fluid, the need for higher injection pressure and for a retention nozzle or much clenching of the anal sphincter) to take the enema. With a soap enema the soap increases its alkalinity over time when it is in contact with water.

I am wondering if testing the specific gravity of the solution is a practice way to measure the strength of the solution. If so you could start dissolving the soap in the water while monitoring the strength of the solution. When it gets to the desired strength remove the soap bar.

This strength of solution issue is important if you are giving somebody else the enema. You will probably not be giving that person to many more enemas if you burn the shit out of their insides. You are trying to get the shit out of their insides but with minimum amount of chemical burns and a controlled amount of tears. You could let them make the enema solution them self. That way they cannot blame the giver if it is too strong, but half of the fun of receiving an enema from someone else is that they are in control of the whole procedure.

Any thoughts or suggestions appreciated.

I would'nt get too crazy about exact measurements with Ivory soap because you are dealing with bar soap.Even if you soak it in a jar as I do,there will be slight variations as to thickness and constasistency.I believe the soap/water ratio is simply a trial and error thing.

Here's what I do;In a 16oz jar,I use two packets of castile soap,1oz of Ivory liquid hand soap,1 oz of Ivory bar soap that has been liquidfied in another jar.Each 16 oz jar of the mixure just discribed will do for four enemas.That means,4 oz for each three and a half quart enema.

I don't pour the soap mixure into the enema water directly,instead,I have a twobagger sytem.I use plastic homemade containers instead of enema bags.The soap is in a seperate 14 oz container,the water in a 3.5 enema container,both connected with a T connector and seperate clamps.The soap is not used until about half og the solution is taking,this way,I don't have the urge to expel right away.

If you are worried about controlling the amount of soap in your enema,this system may work best for you.Just contact me through this site for more info.

Let the good times FLOW.w/m73yrs/Western Ma

It is EXTREMELY EASY to make the same strength soap solution from a bar of ivory soap every time.

Take a bar of ivory and a medium to fine cheese/vegetable grater and grate off the same amount from a bar each time. (You can use a ruler to measure the length of the bar.) It dissolves very fast in warm water and is much easier than storing a large container of water with the bar soaking in it because that gets slimy and takes longer to mix that into the rest of your enema water than shaved flakes.

When I do that, I decide if I want a mild, medium or very strong soap solution. I will grate off between 1/8" to 1" of the bar and let it dissolve, and as I said, it dissolves very fast once it is grated. I would start with 1/8" and increase the amount until you find what's best for you depending on your mood.

Probably, for most people, 1/4" plus or minus, will be about right.

I agree, doing the way switchable susie suhggsts is how I do it.

If you can't measure the bar itself, try a medicine measuring cup. Try differnt amounts (5cc, 10cc etc.) until you find what you like.

Keep on grating!

Ciao

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I agree, doing the way switchable susie suhggsts is how I do it.

If you can't measure the bar itself, try a medicine measuring cup. Try differnt amounts (5cc, 10cc etc.) until you find what you like.

Keep on grating!

Ciao

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Got a ruler? Just make some scratch lines every 1/4" on the bar of soap when you unwrap the bar--then you're set for a long series of enemas.

Susie

if you put the whole bar in the microwave it blow up

you can then crumble it into powder and measure what you need from the powder

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Susie

if you put the whole bar in the microwave it blow up

you can then crumble it into powder and measure what you need from the powder

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That's true, but then you still have the storage problem of the large mass of superpuffed soap. I'm trying to keep the storage down to a minimum.

I have heard that medical professionals do not suggest soap. Warm water and salt does just as good, without the irritation to the bowel. I don't think soap was meant to be put inside the body.

Wonder if anyone remembers the old Ivory Flakes, that used to come in a box....?? We had those for enema use when I was growing up..

Amy

I have cut Ivory suppositories from a bar of soap and inserted them - they do burn a little bit and I couldn't hold them as long as I can hold a glycerin suppository.

I followed it with a very mild enema (no soap!)...I would probably do this again but I don't think I'd put soap in the actual enema.