Thick and viscous solutions

First DO NOT use a colon tube. You need a very wide diameter tube if you plan to have it flow from a bag. 1/2" minimum ID diameter. Also it is best to inject it.

Second. you need more agar powder in your solution.

Third, the agar must first be boiled for ten minutes and allowed to slowly cool to about 150 degrees, then tempered down to 110-112 degrees before injecting it.

You DEFINITELY need to be cleaned out first, and having had a two quart enema that you held for 10-15 minutes to dilate the colon a bit is very helpful.

Wow, thanks for the quick assistance Susie! Your knowledge and sound advice for fellow kinksters in these forums is outstanding.

Yeah, the flow with the colon tube was pretty slow and it was hard to clean, but I was able to empty the bag. Looks like I need to head to a hardware store to scope my injection options. Otherwise, maybe a cake frosting bag or tool...

I'm going to do a test with 6 Tbsp agar to 1 quart of water as opposed to the prior 4 Tbsp. Based on how firm my last attempt was when I cleaned up, this 50% increase should be notable.

I'm sure I didn't boil it long enough since it appeared disolved. I'll be more patient especially since I'm raising the ratio.

I'll do a single 2 quart enema since I can tell I'm still pretty clean from yesterday. I was just concerned about remaining water in the colon diluting the solution.

My Friday is looking up now!

If using a bag, I highly recommend the Klystra bag.

You MUST remove the hose barb the Klystra bag comes with. It is ridicuously narrow and slows down the flow. Their hose barb can be hard to remove. In one case. I pulled the bag inside out to remove it, in another case. I was able to pull it our with pliers without pulling the bag inside out.

Replace the hose barb with a small piece of wider diameter hard plastic/nylon tubing with about 3/8"ID diameter a few inches long. This will GREATLY improve the flow rate.

I have a couple of 2 quart bags, but one is in poor condition. Anything particular that makes you recommend a Klystra? I've seen some mentions of them but not specifics. Is it the Klystra hanging or sit-on bag that you recommend? Which size?

On a different topic, if you are a colon tube user any you recommend? Especially if you've used any larger tubes. I love a high flow.

Most bags have a small diameter hose barb.

If you change the barb in the klystra, you can get very good flow rates. screw on tops of closed top or other bags prevent this important modification.

A couple nights ago I tried agar agar again after an enema to cleanout. I used 8 Tbsp (1/2 cup) of agar agar powder and 2 quarts of water. Once cooled sufficiently, it was about 1.5 quarts of solution. I had a hand pump that I was using to inject it, but discovered that I was pumping in air with the solution. This was uncomfortable and prevented me from injecting the solution as quickly as I needed to. By the time I needed to stop, due to discomfort from the air I had injected, the solution had become too firm to continue injecting it anyways. I held what I had injected as long as I could, but it wasn't quite long enough to firm fully. I had to let it out due to the pressure of the air. It was much firmer than previous attempts and felt great, but I wish it would have lasted longer and I could have had more in me.

Now I need to seek out a better way to inject the solution and I need to modify my solution recipe. The next batch I make with be either 6 or 7 Tbsp agar agar to 2 quarts of water. I've been looking for large enema syringes or bulbs so that I can efficiently inject large amounts of the solution at once. So far I've found:

http://www.klystra.com/store/enema/douche-syringes/bulb-type/black-750-ml-bulb-syringe - This is huge and would hold half the solution. I my have to cut and sand the tip down for a larger opening. It could also be a hassle to clean.

http://www.medicaltoys.com/enemas2.html#SYR - This would take 9 refills to inject all of the solution.

I looked around at more industrial options and found this: http://www.harborfreight.com/oil-suction-gun-95468.html.

Anyone have experience injecting thick solutions and have feedback on the ideas above? Susie, since you recommended injection, is there any particular device that you've used and can recommend?

I will probably use one of my current bags for my next attempt, unless I determine a suitable injection option before then. If using a bag is troublesome again, I may pursue a Klystra bag due to their adaptability. Wonder if a JBL sit-on bag could work? I've always wanted to try one, but I'm not sure how well a thick solution would work or how hard it would be to clean.

There are two products on the common market that I found that may be of interest here. One is Thicken, which is a powder that is mixed with liquids for people that choke easily. Thicken can be bought at Walgreens, and the company has bottles of thickened water pre-prepared. Travel enema, anyone?

Next up is Chia seed. Remember the Chia Pet that was available in the 70's? Lo and behold, whole foods afficiandos have found that Chia seed is good for you. Interestingly enough, the seed has a tendency to thicken any liquid that it comes in contact with. It honestly acts like little gelatin seeds. There is a recipe on the lable for Chia thickened pudding! These tiny seeds are 2/3 smaller than sesame seeds.

Have fun...

A syringe for cake icing has been talked about elsewhere for this (the kind with removable tips).

I really enjoyed my last attempt with the agar agar. It still wasn't exactly what I wanted, but much closer. I used 7 tablespoons agar agar powder and 2 quarts of water. It boiled/cooled down to 1.5 quarts. I used a "jerky shooter" that I got from Gander Mountain to inject. It was a real turn on to inject it this way, feeling how full my colon was. It still seemed to take too long to solidify inside me and wasn't more solid than jello. I finally had to expel and it was a nice prolonged expulsion and orgasm. Tonight I plan to do 6 tablespoons agar agar powder and 1.5 quarts of water, hoping for it to be a little over 1 quart of solution when I inject it. I'm hoping for the mold effect that Susie mentioned!

I'm also trying to reduce prep time since there is the cleanout process and waiting for the solution to cool. I was thinking about using glycerin, since I haven't used it before and read that it really cleans you out fully. I'm hoping that 4 oz glycerin, a few tablespoons of epsom salts and 1 quart of water will produce the effect. Then I thought a couple 2-4 quart plain water enemas would produce a clear return and remove any remaining glycerin. I don't want to draw water into the colon while wanting the agar solution to solidify. Am I playing it safe or are these not best on the same night?

Glycerine and epsom salts will draw in lots of water. If my experience is anything to go by, you will be going for hours. Plain water with a little salt might be a better idea.

Last week I determined that 1.5 quarts water and 6 tablespoons agar agar powder is the right ratio for firm molding internally. This was a lot of fun to inject because the solution was already thickening before I injected it. It was warm and felt filling as I laid still for it to solidify. I think I gave it about an hour. It was as firm as a medium-firm silicone toy on the way out. Large chunks, that were clearly a mold of my colon, though none were long. I couldn't resist pleasuring myself in the process. I will definitely be doing this more, but I will probably reduce to 1 quart with the same ratio. Based on how much I expelled, even the next morning, I think it was even in the ascending colon. I'd be fine with filling the traverse at most in the future. I want to push out a full sigmoid and descending mold, now that the firmness is right. I highly recommend trying agar, so long as you practice first!

Probably not the thickness you are talking about but I just read about using some bananas as a filler with some fleet enema solution. Filled then capped off with some Kotex to help seal, Sounded kinky and hot to me. If interested search Youtube for "banana dare". Let me know what you think. 😉

Permitdrab..did you ever find the right formula?What kind of syringe did you settle for? Susie,if you read this would it be safe for someone with diverticulosis?

I wouldn't use anything that congeals or gets firmer while inside the colon if you have diverticulosis. It could get stuck in a diverticulum, be dangerous and incite an infection or possibly cause a obstruction.

Thanks for the advise Susie.Seems they would invent a solution to fill in those pockets permently,permenatly,whatever 😃

permitdrab..did you ever find the right formula?What kind of syringe did you settle for? Susie,if you read this would it be safe for someone with diverticulosis?

Yeah, a ratio of 1.5 quarts of water and 6 tablespoons of agar agar powder. I'd start with half that, prepared in a bowl so that you can see how thick it gets and how much there is. Be careful and make sure you know what you are putting in yourself before you just inject it. I ended up using a "jerky cannon" or shooter from Gander Mountain. I came across mention of these being used by fisters for inserting lube when i did some Google searches.

Thanks for the info permidrab..Susie wouldn't a good enema session wash out those pockets?I'll try that if Susie thinks its okay, she seems to be kinda of a mentor for me 😃

Hiyall,

I'm very new to this forum. My girl and I have been into enema play a while and we have recently been pondering about using different kinds of food items. Could you suggest some recipe that is thick / semi solid but does not have any issues like drying out (or worse still, result in impaction). We do not want something that would act as a laxative either. Looking through the posts on this forum, I was able to come up with some possibilities:

1) Oatmeal: Seems like a lot of users have tried this without problems but then there were warnings about it drying up inside. Can somebody narrate their experience with oatmeal enemas ? Does it dry out quickly and cause problems ? We would like to wait around a bit before the expulsion.

Somebody suggested addition of oil to the oatmeal to help it flow out smoothly. Does that really help ? Does it cause cramps and/or bloating ?

2) Bananas: Seemed to be quite safe to use although (apparently) it can cause cramps and it can act as a laxative.

3) Whipped cream: Seems to cause bloating but is otherwise fine.

4) Yogurt: Seems fine.. may cause bloating.

Does anybody have any comments about any of these or any other suggestions ? Oatmeal + oil seemed like the most promising one to me provided it does not dry up..

Thanks in advance !

Welcome, Tobias. It seems that you spent time looking through and gathering comments and ideas on the above listed topics, so I would think that the answers are already there about comments or suggestions from people who have tried them.

I think anything you use, a lot will depend on each individual and how their body reacts to things. I believe anything with sugar in it will cause bloating. I have had bananas and even held a banana all night long and had no bloating. I have used whipped cream, but it didn't stay in long enough to cause bloating but it was a TON of fun and laughs and a huge mess. I recommend staying in the shower while doing that one for easier cleanup. I haven't done yogurt, but look for ones with the lowest sugar content, even plain yogurt has some sugar in it. I have have oil injected into me and it was not a problem. Just had to do a rinse or two after the fact. And I have never done oatmeal.

Thanks for the information petalsoft ! Does anybody else have any more advice... particularly about oatmeal enemas ?

You need to inject the thick solutions with a 60 cc or larger catheter tipped syringe. They do not flow at all.

If oatmeal is your focus, there are numerous recipes, tips, techniques, and discussion in these threads

http://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=15649.msg162674#msg162674

http://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=64175.msg449006#msg449006

http://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=364.msg28488#msg28488

Hey .. thanks a lot for all the suggestions petalsoft and susie.. 😃

I did a soap, "naughty enema", and a rinse yesterday. I hate mayonnaise but think there's a certain "naughtiness" taking a thick mayonnaise enema. 😳 😜

I've been reading a few stories and in some of them they include a jello enema. Basically the person has a enema of jello solution before it has become jello like so that it will become jello like in the intestines. What are the dangers to doing this if i was to try it even though I am fairly certain it would not work due to jello's melting temp being 95f. Is there a way to make this possible. Making the jello melt at a temp above body level

There are no dangers with Jell-O.

Jell-O will NOT become firm Jell-O at body temperature. It will stay liquid. Haven't you noticed Jell-O melting on the table when it stayed at room temperature?

There are other aqueous materials (agar agar and calcium alginate) that will gel in the intestine. I have posted about them in the past. Use extreme caution with them. They can form strong firm gels that you will NOT be able to expel (and you will end up in surgery to remove it along with a likely colostomy bag) if you make the solution too concentrated.

Unless you REALLY know what you are doing, stick with metamucil, oatmeal and bananas if you want to pump something in and have a shit (pardon my French 😁 ) consistency coming out.

Wouldn't the sugars in jello feed a yeast infection?

Wouldn't the sugars in jello feed a yeast infection?

NOT really a problem. Milk and molasses enema has much more sugar then Jell-O, so does a coca cola enema. If you're afraid of the sugar you could always use dietetic Jell-O. It's really a moot point because Jell-O won't do what he wants anyway.

I've seen it mentioned here and there, but would be interested in hearing from those who have actually received pudding enemas. How it's done, sensations, etc. Very curious but just not a great deal of first hand experiences out there.

I use a Jerky Cannon bought through My local outdoors store. Mixed mashed potatoes with 1/2 a banana and a melted glycerin suppository. It took about 30 minutes to kick in , then it was game over!