Double balloon nozzle

Where did you get yours? Optimal health network? I don’t want to get the one I see on Amazon.

I think so, but it was years ago. I think Optimal Health sells the same Cleanstream now as Amazon and Extreme Restraints do.

Hi , I have been wanting to try the ‘Cleanstream ’ inflatable nozzle that can be bought either at Optimal Health or Amazon. I have been reluctant to do so because of all the mixed reviews. One reviewer on Amazon showed a picture of the nozzle actually separating at the portion where the 2 balloons are situated. Because that would be an obvious nightmare if the inner balloon separated inside the rectum.

Can anyone who has used or tried to use offer some advice and guidance ? I would be truly grateful.

I do know that over inflation could cause the inner or outer balloon to burst causing possible damage to the device itself and if it was the inner balloon it could cause damage to the lining of the rectum. I would know not to over inflate and would try before use, however that might not be a clear indicator as to the reliability when used under the external pressure caused by the rectum or even involuntary peristalsis.

Any thoughts or advice would be grateful and very much appreciated, thanks in advance.

I’ve gotten two on eBay. Both have been good quality and easily used. I got a third one with plastic shut off valves which was terrible. It was so floppy I couldn’t insert in my rectum by myself.

The ones to get are the ones with metal shut valves. unfortunately the last time I looked only the plastic valves were available. They would work fine if someone inserted it for you. The other to remember is never use silicone based lubricants with them. My girlfriend at the time did so and the inner balloon ruptured. A mess ensued!

The Cleanstream double balloon nozzle has an inner balloon that is much bigger than the outer one. I very much doubt anyone could over inflate that balloon when it's inside them. In fact, I find the inner balloon to be too big and the equal size of the old style latex double balloon nozzles to be preferable. I think the silicone double balloons I've seen are really more sex toys than for actual enema administration.

The latex balloon catheters can still be bought, although I've not seen a double balloon version. IMO, the Fr 30 or Fr 32 work really well as a retention aide and are big enough to fully seal the anus. Also, they are usually inflated with water I use about 50 to 60ml in a balloon rated for 30ml. When the balloon is first inflated, the warm balloon feels great IMO. It's a prelude to what's going in very soon.

Finally, since the balloon is filled with water rather than air, it's a lot harder to poo it out before the bag is empty and the full dose of solution has been given.

MO

For Tappy I purchased a double balloon nozzle about 18 months ago from Optimal Health. The first one failed after 2 or 3 uses where the folds in the balloon are located on the inner balloon. To the credit of Optimal they replaced it for me. The second one made it to 5 uses and separated where the inner balloon is bonded to the hose between the two balloons. In my situation I have a wife with a complex health problem and a balloon nozzle would be helpful. The failures were both aggravating and messy to say the least. Prior to that I had a couple of single balloon latex nozzles made by the B company. They lasted for nearly 20 years and just died from age. My suggestion is that you find the other posts about all of this and purchase a quality balloon nozzle from the German firm that is mentioned many times. They aren't inexpensive, but if you really want one you get what you pay for. Good luck! I've given up on balloon nozzles.

Proper latex double balloon nozzle from https://www.medtech3000.de/

Website is in German, but they answer to emails in English. They can be found on eBay, too - https://www.ebay.com/str/medtech3000

The double balloon catheters offered by Medtec use one bulb to inflate both balloons Not really an issue, but a matter of choice.

@Sean

The double balloon catheters offered by Medtec use one bulb to inflate both balloons Not really an issue, but a matter of choice.

They sell those too, as well as those with individually inflated balloons. Check their website.

https://www.medtech3000.de/Doppelballon-Darmrohr-mit-2-Geblaese-Darmkatheter-Ballondarmrohr::409.html

@gauguin

Thank you. I've not shopped recently.

Hi , I have been wanting to try the ‘Cleanstream ’ inflatable nozzle that can be bought either at Optimal Health or Amazon . I have been reluctant to do so because of all the mixed reviews . One reviewer on Amazon showed a picture of the nozzle actually separating at the portion where the 2 balloons are situated . Because that would be an obvious nightmare if the inner balloon separated inside the rectum.

Can anyone who has used or tried to use offer some advice and guidance ? I would be truly grateful .

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Any thoughts or advice would be grateful and very much appreciated , thanks in advance .

Don't waste your time and money. I have one but don't use it - I've had to repair it twice from tears. Cleanstream doesn't use a good mix of silicone and design, and there are some highly stressed areas. Also the ridges are a bit annoying. My Cleanstream broke after about a year of occasional uses, a latex one from Medtech3000 is going on 4 or 5 years of much more frequent uses and is still fine (though I've heard they may have changed suppliers). One of the EZ-EM single inflatables would be a better choice, or a Siliconenozzles bulbous one.

I've been using the Cleanstream silicone double balloon nozzles for years. At first the quality was pretty poor. They are better now and usually one will last for over a year of very frequent use. At $65 it costs about the same as a colonic from a pro. I've fitted mine with a Tee and bloodpressure manometer gauge which are inexpensive from Amazon. I inflate the inner balloon to 100 mmHg which holds well and if one is going to retain the enema for longer times, it is easy to check that the inner balloon hasn't leaked and deflated a bit. They don't last forever but they aren't going to explode inside you either. I keep a spare on hand. The actual cost/use is pretty nominal.

This thread is about a month old, but I only noticed it today. Have posted about latex DBCs several times in earlier threads. Currently own 2 identical latex DBC, both excellent and ordered from medtech3000.de in Jan 2022, both of the black rubber double-inflator type. Had several prior nearly identical latex DBCs manufactured by Rusch from Beth Tyler then from US website VetMed.co. Those 2 closed as of this note. As stated earlier this thread, MedTech in Germany will accept email in English, and their replies are in pretty decent understandable English. Their website is German only, but if you use a browser with website translation like Google Chrome, the translations and ease of reading and use are very good. I use Chrome, but I understand other browsers are available. Chrome translates the entire web page at once on arrival and displays the full page in English. In Jan 2022, my order from the medtech3000.de website took 17 days to arrive here in the central US. Read their website carefully, as their shipping charges to the US are pretty high. They do have both types of latex DBC mentioned in this thread, including 1) mine with 2 black inflator bulbs, one for each balloon, as well as 2) the other type of DBC inflated through a single syringe channel inflating both at once. I have not used that second type. They also have single balloon catheters and other related items.

I’m happy to discuss more of whatever you like about these latex DBCs if you write back here or send me a Zity Direct Message.

Eric

I got mine from silicone nozzles, have had it quite a while. Had to get new bulbs a while back, works great, relax let it flow in

I got mine from silicone nozzles, have had it quite a while. Had to get new bulbs a while back, works great, relax let it flow in

@Jumper1949,

I love my latex DBCs for decades now - bought my current 2 from medtech3000.de in Germany in Jan of 2022. But I’ve actually been very curious about how the silicone versions both feel inside the rectum and how well they would seal my big 3.5-4.5 quart enemas during long retentions. Can you give us a link to SiliconeNozzles to the catheter you bought from them? Also, to anyone here who owns a silicone DBC with which they are very pleased from another company, would you please post a link here as well for your catheter? Thanks very much.

Eric

Can you give us a link to SiliconeNozzles to the catheter you bought from them? Also, to anyone here who owns a silicone DBC with which they are very pleased from another company, would you please post a link here as well for your catheter?

Silicone Nozzles had a single (not double) balloon nozzle which they no longer sell, apparently because of quality control issues. They have stated that they are developing an improved version, but there has been no recent news of it. I bought their single balloon nozzle as soon as it became available in late 2017 and it continues to stand up very well.

Silicone Nozzles had a single (not double) balloon nozzle which they no longer sell, apparently because of quality control issues. They have stated that they are developing an improved version, but there has been no recent news of it. I bought their single balloon nozzle as soon as it became available in late 2017 and it continues to stand up very well.

I purchased one of the last ones they released before they quit selling it. Just a matter of luck and timing. Mine's also held up well. Not my favorite inflatable nozzle though.

I purchased one of the last ones they released before they quit selling it. Just a matter of luck and timing. Mine's also held up well. Not my favorite inflatable nozzle though.

@Enema_Runner,

Pardon my brain fog - you bought their single balloon nozzle? Or double? Many of your large volume enema photos show you displaying or wearing (in your rectum) what looks like a silicone (whitish or clear rubber, not yellow latex) DBC

Eric

@ericmacson

Some time back, I bought one of the last single balloon nozzles that SNC sold. Shortly after it arrived, SNC stopped producing them.

I do own a latex double balloon nozzle obtained from Medtech3000.de. In addition, I own two versions of Cleanstream double balloon clear silicone nozzles. One version has inflation bulbs with chrome valves. The other has plastic valves. They have different dimensions even though they are similar.

@ericmacson

I own two versions of Cleanstream double balloon clear silicone nozzles. One version has inflation bulbs with chrome valves. The other has plastic valves.

How do yo find these nozzles? I saw people complain about quality, do you use yours often? How well are they holding up?

I also have both Cleanstream versions. The one with the metal valves has the balloons further apart and doesn't seal very well. And the big balloon ruptured pretty soon after purchase (now patched). The one with plastic valves has the balloons slightly closer together. It also seems sturdier. I wrapped self fusing silicone tape around the neck between balloons to increase the diameter. This helps it seal better.

@ericmacson

Some time back, I bought one of the last single balloon nozzles that SNC sold. Shortly after it arrived, SNC stopped producing them.

I do own a latex double balloon nozzle obtained from Medtech3000.de. In addition, I own two versions of Cleanstream double balloon clear silicone nozzles. One version has inflation bulbs with chrome valves. The other has plastic valves. They have different dimensions even though they are similar.

@Enema_Runner,

I only remember seeing what looked like uncolored clear/translucent plastic in both the Catheter sections and double balloons on your videos. I’ve always had latex DBCs as I do now which were all yellowish. I may have just not seen the latex ones in your albums. Are the clear silicone models I see you using in your albums working well for you? Major leaks? Is one better than the other? A quick Google search just now showed these sold in various places, including of all places Walmart. Where did you buy yours if you recall? Many thanks,

Eric

@ericmacson

Eric,

I took down all the albums when I got an indication that this and several other accounts had been hacked. One of the albums that contained images of the latex balloon nozzle was removed at the time and I haven't uploaded those images since I took them down. You are correct that the most recent images in my albums are the clear silicone double balloon nozzles.

The clear silicone nozzles have larger balloons and a longer reach/depth than the natural latex rubber ones I have. They are also have a different feel.

Part of that is due to their larger size, of course. I sense that the latex balloons are more pliable in my rectum than the silicone ones. Both types seal well and both types normally stimulate me to a strong erection and eventual orgasm. But, I do have to be careful with the latex rubber ones because strong muscle contractions with a full colon of an enema solution are amble to push the catheter out. I could try to inflate the distal balloon more, but that only damages the balloon and shortens its life.

As I have noted a number of times, the key to using these types of balloons is to properly seat them and have them effectively seal the rectum. I know that is accomplished when I inflate the outer balloon and I feel it drawn up tightly against the outer anal sphincter muscles without it dislodging from the "grip" of the rectal muscle walls.

I do have two types of clear silicone double balloon nozzles. The ones with the inflator bulbs that have chrome-plated twist to open valves are my preferred type. I have purchased them via eBay and they have been somewhat more expensive than the other version. The other version has larger inflation bulbs with plastic push-to-vent valves. These two catheters look similar. However, they have slightly different dimensions including length and distance between the balloons. Again, properly seated in the rectum, both work well for me. The only drawback I've seen between the two styles is the leakage that can occur from the valve stem of the plastic valves. I've handled this by running a bead of glue at the junction of the valve body and valve stem and that seems to fix the problem. The model with the plastic valves is the one most commonly sold at various outlets. I have purchased mine via Amazon.

One more thing about those clear silicone nozzles. The advertise very large balloon volumes. They are unrealistically large and I suggest they are the burst volume and not the practical inflation volume. All elastomers have a practical stretch limit beyond which the elastomer is damaged and then forms a weak point for the eventual failure of the balloon. It's more difficult to visibly spot that type of damage on the fluted silicone balloon and much easier to see on the latex rubber balloon. Once the balloon is inflated enough to expand the fluted surface so that it present a smooth surface at the point of maximum diameter, there isn't much good that can come from continued inflation beyond that. One reason why my balloon nozzles have lasted so long is that I know the maximum inflation point by observing the balloon inflation behavior outside of my body and then not going beyond that.

@Enema_Runner,

I won’t copy your latest post here since I don’t really need to ask you any further detailed questions about it for the moment. I think you answered all the questions I had generated from having read yours and other members’ accounts. I appreciate you providing such a lengthy detailed description. If I come up with any other questions I’ll let you know here. When I have time, I need to do some more window shopping and decide which model and price and sales venue to choose. Many thanks,

Eric

I once had the opportunity to examine a Cleanstream Doppelballon colon tube. It never found its way into my pool of enema equipment.

I prefer the previous yellow latex models, especially the one with the big 750ml balloon. It takes a little patience to insert it into the rectum, but then it's a heavenly pleasure when the balloon expands inside it when it's inflated...

The single and double balloon colon tubes from Rüsch are more practical to use.

I had very poor experiences with the silicone double balloon nozzles from approximately 8 years ago. The seam at one of the balloons would invariably leak. I attempted repairing them using a silicone glue, but this usually failed within a short period of time. Now I buy the latex version that I can usually find on eBay from a German supplier. They are more expensive than the silicone variety, but with proper care my latex ones usually last at least five years. So this makes it worth the expense for me. Just remember not to use petroleum base lubes and keep the nozzle away from other latex items. Otherwise they will often "melt".

I sadly had to throw my silicone double-balloon nozzle away a couple of days ago. I purchased it years ago before China started making their cheap versions of it. I think I bought it from Klystra or Optimal Health Network. I hadn't used it in a while, going for the inflatable butt plug style nozzle instead. Once I had the nozzle in me though, I remembered why I loved it so much! Great retention with the balloon inflated and my anus was nicely clamped down on the narrow hose between balloons. I settled in for a good long retention, and then what to my surprise, but a POP! and a trickle of water escaping! The inner balloon had popped (I probably over-inflated it) while inside me. Startling, but not damaging to my tender vittles, but not a repairable nozzle. I am hesitant to buy a CleanStream version of the same because I like my gear to last!

If there is anyone here that knows of any undeniably positive reviews on a silicone double-balloon nozzle, let us all know!

@KinkExplorer78,

Not trying to change or convert you, but I take it you’re allergic to or had a bad outcome with Latex DBC’s? I have 2 latex now and loved all my prior ones from 2 other suppliers. All of my prior ~4-5 latex models eventually failed owing to inner balloon latex degradation (i.e. a hole appeared, but neither during filling or while inside me), but lasted for many years. Actually, I’m interested in trying a silicone DBC but haven’t as yet. Good luck searching and ordering.

Eric

@ericmason,

No allergies to latex at all! My "go to" nozzle right now is a latex inflatable butt plug nozzle because it will inflate to about 3" diameter.

I started with latex DBCs and found a silicone one many years ago at Klystra that had a bigger inner balloon than any of the latex offerings I could find. Now that my silicone nozzle broke, and the CleanStream versions don't get good ratings, I'll probably try a latex one again from that German page linked above.

I bought a Cleanstream one few weeks ago

Love it

No issues yet and have used it several times now

So🤞