Olympics and a humiliating nude procedure

Whenever the Olympics take place, I'm reminded of a moment that may have spawned my med-fetish. I was 12 and watching the 1976 Olympics in Montreal, the year Nadia Comeneci of Romania dominated the gymnastics competition at age 14.

I think it was studio analyst Jim McKay (though not sure) who for some strange reason described a procedure all female Olympians had to endure. He said they had to disrobe and stand fully nude in front of a panel of men, describing it as a humiliating experience (no shit, Jim). This wasn't the medical exam, which I'm sure they had to have, too. I think he said this was done to ensure there were no males posing as females.

I had just discovered masturbation around that time and this fueled quite a few fantasies as I envisioned every hot female Olympian having to submit to this embarrassing procedure. It upset me that a bunch of horny old men (presumably) would require young females to be subjected to this, but I also was envious of these men on the panel and wondered how they were selected.

I tried to find more information on this over the years. One article stated the panel consisted of international gynecologists. On a message board someone claimed the females would enter draped in a towel and then required to hold it open while the men parted their labia for a visual inspection to ensure they weren't once male and had sex reassignment surgery. Not sure if that part is true, but if it is … Wow!

I recall reading they stopped doing this many years back due to complaints from women's rights groups or something of that nature.

Televised glowing gymnast bodies, and ice kissed figure skating bottoms fueled many a masturbation sessions for me as a teen, now that you mention it…

It has stopped in reality in 2015. I think it is the summit of humiliating females…. Many women who refused a procedure like this are suspended, maybe for life….

But it is nice as a play exam where both “researcher” and “sporter” (because the roles maybe changed, (the researcher female and the man who has to prove he is a man, on a humiliating way for a man)) are agreed with it.

In the netherlands there was a case (i think in the late 40's or 50's) where a very good woman (Foekje Dilemma) who was the fastest in running was accused for being a man. A gynecological test became mandatory and she refused. Result she was suspended for life by the athletic federation. Only after she passed away in 2007 the athletic federation gave an excuse. In the meantime her life was ruined.

Yes, it is a nice fantasy, but in the reals world this kind of examinations have very big and dark consequences, please be aware of that.

@cm110365 that is super hot!!! I have never heard that. Certainly it is horrible in reality, but this is a kink site, so on here…

THAT'S FRICKIN AWESOME!!!

And im sure they must have found some reason to feel these girls up.

this would make a fantastic erotic story

@Wim,

You wrote: Only after she passed away in 2007 the athletic federation gave an excuse. In the meantime her life was ruined.

What did giving an excuse by the IAAF amount to? Clarify? Thanks,

Eric

I doubt that they do that anymore. In the USA anyway, they have to let men compete as women.

Any actual evidence like videos or articles

Caster Semenya underwent exams during the tests to determine her gender apparently.

Seems like a simple DNA test would suffice.

The simplest thing DNA can tell you is whether someone is male or female. Apart from some very rare cases, that doesn't even involve looking at their DNA sequence - all you need to know is whether they have X and Y chromosomes (making them male) or a pair of Xs (which makes them female).

That kind of exam by men on female gymnasts was abuse just like Nassar except under the guise of “rules” of proof of gender.

@XposeHer I'm sure they must have found some reason to feel these girls up.

That's what upsets me. As erotic as this would be in a porno, the fast that women, even young girls, had to endure this type of humiliation and abuse from men is outrageous. And you're right, it's safe to assume some of those men took great pleasure in this and surely crossed the line in the way they handled and inspected these ladies' genitals. After all, what recourse did the Olympians have? They trained years for this and couldn't risk being disqualified for failure to cooperate. They basically had to stand there and take it, I imagine. The same with their physicals. If the doctor crossed the line, I doubt the women could protest and risk failing the physical. I'm glad they stopped doing this.

With all respect, but this story sounds like so much made-up fantasy nonsense.

If this had been the Olympic custom/requirement all these years, surely it would have been brought to the attention of the media in some manner or another long ago. This is not the kind of juicy, racy, salacious story that can be kept quiet for long.

From all I have read surrounding the hysteria around ‘males’ competing in female events, gender testing is done by chromosome analysis. There is no need to go poking in between labia, which in itself does not necessarily prove much.

Agraciar I agree with you this sounds like it happened only at one place, called PHANTASIA

As far as I am aware this is true. The British athlete, Mary Peters who won gold at the 1972 Munich Olympics, writes about her experiences in her autobiography and has discussed it on BBC TV. In the mid/late 60's all the female athletes were required to have internal examinations at the meetings to check for hidden testes. Mary describes her experience in 1966 in some detail. She also tells how at another Games the girls and women were required to parade naked before a panel of doctors. DNA testing replaced this in the 70's

We discussed this on Zity back in 2012….Here is a link to one such discussion

https://en.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=34674

This story is 100% true. I'm 71 years old and i can remember reading about it at the time. I doubt that a bunch of old gynecologists would get much of a thrill out of seeing naked women. It's what they do for a living. But likewise i'm sure it was humiliating for the women.

I've heard the practice stopped because of Princess Anne. She was an athlete in Montreal in 1976, in equestrian, and her participation brought about the change

‘At the 1976 Summer Olympics, it has been reported that the only female competitor not to have to submit to a sex test was Princess Anne of the UK, who was competing as a member of the UK equestrian team. As the daughter Queen Elizabeth II, such a test was seen as inappropriate.’

@Dr_Philip I read the description. This does not seem like an internal examination (into the vagina), more like palpating the vulva. Still, extremely humiliating.

I've read much more recent press reports about similar examinations in the case of intersex athletes, I guess with abnormal cariotypes.

@patientin_Jacqui I suppose you would consider it fantasy that athletes taking urine tests actually have to pee in front of somebody, and that some athletes have used condoms hidden in their rectum to fake peeing using somebody else's urine?

@Pecan_nutjob Yes, Mary Peters in her book described it as being ‘groped.’ Being told to lay on the table and bring her knees up for the doctor to feel for what Mary assumed was hidden testes. Some of the athletes were only 16 and it mortified them apparently…

Where did I read that an athlete with an intersex body (I suppose, big clitoris) took some reduction surgery on her genitals to make her acceptable for such tests?

@patientin_Jacqui I suppose you would consider it fantasy that athletes taking urine tests actually have to pee in front of somebody, and that some athletes have used condoms hidden in their rectum to fake peeing using somebody else's urine?

After the scandals of recent years, it's very common in all sports. The tester has to see exactly where the urine is coming from on both males and females.

This story is 100% true. I'm 71 years old and i can remember reading about it at the time. I doubt that a bunch of old gynecologists would get much of a thrill out of seeing naked women. It's what they do for a living. But likewise i'm sure it was humiliating for the women.

As titillating as this story is, part of me was hoping it was false. I feel bad for the girls and young women who had to endure such humiliation, and in some cases, probably abuse. That is someone's sister, girlfriend, wife. etc. and it's not right that a bunch of men once gathered and decided this would be a mandatory procedure.

Also, while this might not be a thrill for ALL old gynecologists, to assume it wouldn't excite some would be short-sighted, kind of following a script that the medical profession seems to push. History tells us many doctors do get off on this, and not just the ones who get caught (Larry Nassir at Michigan State, Robert Anderson at Michigan – what a fucked up state!). I imagine there are scores of others who just haven't been caught.

@cm110365 There are well-documented cases of abuse of teenage girls being made to undergo invasive procedures for the enjoyment of the physician. Google “Parramatta school for girls” and “dr fingers” for instance. (I suppose some here would classify this as “fantasy”, but, hey, there has been an official investigation commission from the Australian government.)

Pecan, how do you want to know hat I call fantasy? lol, I know of the supervised Doping Pee test more then you can think

I heard an interview with a female athlete on BBC Radio 4 about two years ago shortly after a dopping scandal. She described having to always let the Olympics Committee know where you would as they could call at anytime to request a urine test and if you missed I think three appointments you could be in trouble. So the 2 testers would turn up unannounced where ever you said you'd be even at your home and you would have to produce a urine sample. She said some were considerate and although you had to leave the toilet door open they wouldn't stare at you as you peed. Others would do it by the book, you had to expose the body from knee to chest and urinate while they ‘observed’ which wasn't always that easy when being stared at. She also commented even though it never happened to her you weren't guaranteed the obsevers would be the same sex as many of the testers were male.

I can totally see this happening, especially during that period (70s and earlier). And I’m sure at least some of the doctors were dirty old men.

I can totally see this happening, especially during that period (70s and earlier).

If so many other athletes hadn't been so desperately hell-bent on scheming, tricking, falsifying, lying, being deceitful and mendacious to do anything to win, none of this kind of gender verification would have been necessary in the first place.

There are a whole lot of participants who wouldn't know an Olympic Ideal if it bit them on the ass …

If so many other athletes hadn't been so desperately hell-bent on scheming, tricking, falsifying, lying, being deceitful and mendacious to do anything to win, none of this kind of gender verification would have been necessary in the first place.

There are a whole lot of participants who wouldn't know an Olympic Ideal if it bit them on the ass …

You mean if so many MALE athletes. It’s just another example of the patriarchy in action

When Nadia was the big hit I recall hearing or reading about how they were forced to train in the nude at home. I don't know if it was considered scandalous or just normal at home but it certainly was a story to the rest of us.