Pediatricians that take advantage of their Power.

That's why I don't see it as an expression of power from the pediatrician, but rather from my mother.

Absolutely yes my pediatrician kept my undies down longer than necessary. I'm assuming he did that for all the boys, to ensure our moms got a good look.

Absolutely yes my pediatrician kept my undies down longer than necessary. I'm assuming he did that for all the boys, to ensure our moms got a good look.

Perhaps that was just a subjective impression. Just like most patients at a dentist feel that dentists drill for too long ...

My pediatrician definitely abused the power of his position. He sexually abused me and several other boys in our community over several years. He was also a deacon at the church & a little league coach - so mothers trusted him and he eventually got to where our mothers were not present for the exams, since it was all part of a supposed study on boys that were slow to develop. I was in his so-called study for about 3 years and just thought it was all normal for boys who slow starters.

When rumors started to spread that not everything was kosher with his "developmental studies," he shot himself and everything was just swept under the rug.

Perhaps that was just a subjective impression. Just like most patients at a dentist feel that dentists drill for too long ...

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As I posted in 2021:

There seems to be a knee jerk reaction here on Zity sometimes to minimize these situations, specifically when the victim/survivor is male. It is very common for survivors of abuse to minimize and justify the abuse, they do not benefit when others do this as well.

My pediatrician definitely abused the power of his position. He sexually abused me and several other boys in our community over several years. He was also a deacon at the church & a little league coach - so mothers trusted him and he eventually got to where our mothers were not present for the exams, since it was all part of a supposed study on boys that were slow to develop. I was in his so-called study for about 3 years and just thought it was all normal for boys who slow starters.

When rumors started to spread that not everything was kosher with his "developmental studies," he shot himself and everything was just swept under the rug.

Thank you for sharing this, unfortunately it was more common than people would like to believe. (unless of course the victim is female).

There seems to be a knee jerk reaction here on Zity sometimes to minimize these situations,

The post I commented on was about someone feeling that a doctor looked too long during an exam ...

It seems that many younger people become very easily upset about things/situations that people of my age would think of as an annoyance, if even that. Probably more like it just being nothing more than the way of the world.

@Kaw Just having a peek may just be for Tanner staging…

Spreading the labia to check for irritation, inflammation, or.. damage? But why do this routinely unless there is a complaint or there are indications that the child might have been molested?

On a somber note - right now in Brittany (France) a physician (abdominal surgeon) is being prosecuted for 299 occurrences of rape and sexual assault.

There seems to be a knee jerk reaction here on Zity sometimes to minimize these situations, specifically when the victim/survivor is male.

Not just on Zity, @jme, but throughout society in general. The support I’ve seen women receive, yet male victims of the same perpetrator are treated differently, or the actions they were subjected to or the trauma they suffer minimised or swept under a rug. My beautiful loved one is no less of a survivor just because he is a male and I’m fed up with society trying to nullify their abuse - especially the attempts to nullify female on male abuse.

Thank you for sharing @HodgeMan, your braveness may be all it takes for someone else who reads your comment to find the courage to speak up ❤️

Although I didn’t have a paediatrician I saw and was examined by quite a few doctors 40+ years ago. The examinations were usually quite thorough, but I don’t remember any doctor being any more thorough than any other. Where I had to be exposed or naked, it was never for longer than was necessary. I don’t think any of them abused their power, it’s just how examinations were carried out in those days.

I have always had the same pediatrician, she was a woman and from the time I was born to the last visit (14 years old) she always examined me completely naked from beginning to end.

@markus82 , i guess it was quite some time ago when such thunks were considered absolutely normal in most of the countries and no one would complain about that but just comply with the requirements of the doctor. We all thought if the doctor asks us to be naked, then it’s needed for a proper examination.

I had a male pediatrician until I was 19 and never felt he crossed the line. I really liked him. He only exposed what he needed to for as long as it needed to be. I was very comfortable going to him.

Our family doctor wasn't a pediatrician but actually a highly regarded former surgeon forced to give up surgery due to (bone?) cancer in one hand (I don't remember which) that resulted in its amputation. He had a very realistic looking prosthetic hand that was frankly a little creepy for a kid until you got used to it. He kept his surgeon's personality ('I walk on water', gruff and bossy to his nurses with no bed-side manner). I think he treated his patients as surgical subjects and clothes only unnecessarily slowed his access to his patients' body. As a result, I was usually naked for the majority of time during my periodic checkups. His penetrating stare was probably unnerving to some of his patients which might have given the impression of his being a voyeur, but he was all business.

The discussion seems to mix up two different situations:

- Acts that at the time were normal (asking patients to disrobe completely, taking rectal temperatures in public or almost…), and were not meant for the physician's sexual enjoyment, but that are now avoided out of consideration for the patient's dignity.

- Acts that were committed for sexual enjoyment (or sadism etc.).

Another thing - those doing things for enjoyment would generally prey on vulnerable children. I've read several times about doctors (and even female "nurses") preying on girls in homes for troubled youth / delinquent girls because they knew they could get away with it (who would believe a young delinquent?) and they would use excuses like checking these probably irresponsible and promiscuous girls for STDs. I read one member here who was abused by a doctor as a child and it seems that her mother was a bit funny in the head - presumably the doctor would not have tried this with a parent with better judgment. That Nassar doctor in US gymnastics knew he could get away with things because he held power over the girls' careers. Etc.

Absolutely there are. I would be even willing to go out on a limb and say there may be a significant portion of pediatricians who have a thing for kids. You may not hear about them all the time in the news as they likely keep it compartmentalized enough, but pedophiles, a lot of the time, make sure to get in positions where they are in regular contact with children. Add to the fact that said children often undress for exam purposes, and you get the perfect conditions. You can apply this to any child centered job really, but I think... pediatricians probably, along with school teachers, have a higher number of pedos in the profession than usual. Of course this is just a theory made by some anon on a fetish site, don't take it as gospel. But if it turned out to be the case, I would absolutely not be surprised.

Though I would argue that in our days, the parent typically is allowed into the exam room. That leaves little room for potential power abuse, but in the past when children were routinely examined naked and without any other adult in the room, it's sadly possible there were a lot of such incidents involving doctors. Plus, pedophilia wasn't nearly as talked about as it is today. I can't imagine how many kids must have been abused or at least ogled by some unsavoury praticioners...

I took down some posts because they were not really about kids seeing the doctor. I mean, I think kids going to be examined by a doctor when they are not ill is an American way, it it not like that in Britain, but I am sure the American kids are not going to the doctor because they are exhibitionists who enjoy being looked at. The topic became more about models and cheer leaders enjoying and expecting to get look at though, and they are not what the topic is about at all.

Thank you for keeping to the topic in new posts everybody.

While Hi Iaka's scenario may have happened quite a bit in the past, I'm not so sure about now. These days medical professionals are constantly under the gun to push patients out as quickly as possible. Deliberately lingering during an exam for their own perverted enjoyment is not only unethical, but nowadays would be totally impractical as well.

I took down some posts because they were not really about kids seeing the doctor. I mean, I think kids going to be examined by a doctor when they are not ill is an American way, it it not like that in Britain, but I am sure the American kids are not going to the doctor because they are exhibitionists who enjoy being looked at. The topic became more about models and cheer leaders enjoying and expecting to get look at though, and they are not what the topic is about at all.

Thank you for keeping to the topic in new posts everybody.

@Amethyst- my apologies to you and everyone else here. I never meant to cause any trouble. One poster's angry lash-out against male medfetters with slight exhibitionist tendencies just really rubbed me the wrong way, which is why I sort of went off on a tangent in my response. Straying off topic wasn't the best way to handle it, but I was pissed off at that moment.

I saw two pediatricians as a kid and teen. One of them I saw up until age 10 when, he passed away. That doctor left me dressed for exams and just worked around my clothing. He would put his hand down my pants and quickly feel my testes. The pediatrician I saw from 11 through 18 had me strip to my underpants for exams and did a brief, but thorough, exam of my genitalia and hernia exam. He never did anything that could be thought of as inappropriate. I think it is immportant for a developing preteen and teen boy to have a genital exam as it could be the only way of determining abnormalities of development and also testicular cancer in teen boys. I also think it is good for a boy to get over childish modesty and drop his shorts to be examined like a man. It’s tough to go through but important as a part of maturity.

I never felt abused by my pediatrician. Looking back, there might have been some abuse of power by nurses. Not saying definitely, but continually leaving doors wide open, being subjected to rectal temperatures until 18 years old, they seemed to be enjoying it. I don’t think any distinction was made between boys and girls. I know for fact that both genders were subjected to being seen naked by passersby in the hall way. A couple of times, perhaps because of vacations, I had to see another doctor’s office, and things were pretty much the same.

Hospitals were similar. As a teenager I once needed to be in the hospital pediatric ward. Immediately I had to undress completely to put on a gown. I was issued a brand new rectal thermometer. Everyone had their own, which you took home with you. The first thing thry did was to give you an enema. This was done in front of parents and your roommate. Then they gave you a bedpan. Then they took your temperature, and did so every 4 hours. You were awakened during sleep for this. Once a day a doctor would come in to examine you and your roommate, and both of us had to remove our gowns for this. Then of course the needles. In the hospital you were always getting them. Penicillin was rampant, and they gave you needles to get you to sleep. They would bring in an orderly to hold you down.

At the doctor’s office, almost every visit would end with a needle, and it seemed like the nurses were enjoying it.

I hated every minute of this, but it also led to a major fetish.

I never felt abused by my pediatrician.

Demeanor.

I would think pediatricians "taking advantage of the situation" would be all in their demeanor. As mentioned previously, I never had a pediatrician, but just went to the family doctor.

The essence of those experiences is being nude was a very serious procedural necessity, and not something that caused a doctor to "show interest" in me. As the naive innocent young patient, the intense dynamic was that they had the power to see my naked body, a privilege that practically no one else had, or at least used. And since it is such a unique experience, it is all the more dramatic.

It only took me about 40 or 50 years to appreciate the dominance vs innocence dynamic within folks in highly respective authoritative positions in my life. And appreciate it in a sense that it stirs a sensational effect in my body. Senses maturing.

My pediatrician was famous, having appeared on television, written books, and having his own line of chewable vitamins. All the while he maintained his pediatric practice, having been restricted to pediatrics by the Oregon state disciplinary board (he was then a psychiatrist).

To cut a long story shirt, when I was twelve, I went to him for my annual physical. In those days boys stripped to their briefs, and stayed that way until the genital exam. That day the physical went as usual until I was on my back, having my abdomen and navel examined for hernias. Out of the blue he began to hypnotize me, and within a minute I was in a deep trance. He then pulled my briefs completely off, and put his hands on my penis, saying "I'm going to just check your plumbing", but was he did felt different that any other genital exam I'd had. I opened my eyes, to see him masturbating me. Seeing me looking at him, he commanded "Close your eyes and SLEEP!" I dropped back into trance.

I remained in trance for a few minutes until he brought me out of trance when the physical was over.

I can't help wondering how many other kids he did this to. Less than a year later he voluntarily gave up his license, rather than undergo a third disciplinary hearing.

@maletist Sorry, perhaps it's because I'm not a native English speaker - you said that the disciplinary board restricted a pediatrician to pediatrics?

Out of the blue he began to hypnotize me, and within a minute I was in a deep trance.

From all I have read about hypnotism, it appears that there must be a degree of cooperation and acceptance between the person doing the hypnotizing and the person being hypnotized. Hypnotism doesn't work like it is often portrayed in 1940s comedy movies.

I wouldn't say that I ever had a paediatrician who was more thorough than necessary to keep me nude longer. I would say, with 25 years of hindsight, that they did things that would not be acceptable by today's standards. Most of the paediatricians (paediatric surgeons) I saw didn't think twice about lifting my shirt, undoing my belt and trousers, and lowering my underwear to look at my abdomen and scars, when it would have been more appropriate to have asked me to do so - especially in my teens.

However, even then I felt that it was inappropriate even then to be undressed to my underwear to be weighed by the nurses at my visits - despite being able to undress and redress in private. I would have been much more comfortable to have been offered a gown and a degree more modesty.

There have, of course, been some that took advantage of their position - but I think the majority were just doing things the way they had always done them, and it's only through looking at what used to happen from a 2025 perspective that we consider their actions to have been taking advantage.