Bronner's peppermint castille - by itself?

Hi all! First post. I like the burning and discomfort of using soap as lubricant. Bronner peppermint castille has been lots of fun for that. When I use it in small amounts in an enema though, there's no significant burning. Is there any reason I can't syringe a little bit of it up there straight? In other words, is it only safe to be used when significantly diluted?

(Also: Thanks for all your wisdom, everybody. I've done a lot of reading on this forum and it's been super instructive!!)

Soap has lots of things like surfactants in it that aren't good for the mucous membrane in your colon. The reason that small amounts are used in enemas is to irritate and stimulate your colon into peristaltic action. While some soaps are probably less irritating than others, any soap is bad for your lining in concentrated quantities. Why don't you try a little Vick's on the nozzle instead.

Well done on your first post! I would support Moppy's comment. It's best to be safe! A warm soapy welcome to zity from Down Under.

Blue55: If you use a couple of cap-fulls of Dr. Bonner's soap you will definitively feel it. It won't take much more than that to cause a burning sensation that will be almost impossible to take. I know from experience. Start slowly and add another cupful (3-4-5 etc.) with each bag full until you reach your happy place.

Thank you guys for responding! I've tried coating nozzles & toys with vicks, cayenne, various other things that people say “burn,” but I really do like the itchy-burn feeling of soap best - and I like to feel it fast and intense, which doesn't really happen when it's diluted. So… what's the most concentrated people think is OK, assuming a small enema and not retained for very long? Would 50/50 soap & water still sound unsmart?

It's up to you but I think 3 or 4 ounces in a quart would be plenty. You can try it and see but I think 50% is way too much. You can try increasing it until you get to where you want. I've heard of people using dawn dish soap straight for punishment enemas but I would really advise against it. You only have 1 colon. In the end though, it's your ass!

Please be very careful as chemical burns are not something you want in your colon. Increase the amount of castle soap in your enemas slowly until you get the desired effect. Don't start too heavy a concentration and dilute as the possibility of injury is too great, we want you to be around to talk to.

Thank you guys - I definitely don't want to be unsafe. I was hoping people would tell me it's OK to actually inject the stuff straight, but if that's not the case I'll content myself with just lubing toys with it - I've been doing that a long time and it hasn't killed me yet! :-)

Okay, since we’re at least mentioning soaps as lubricants, here goes. I’m running out of lube, but have a small bottle of J&J Baby Shampoo. Unlike the OP, I really hate burning and stinging, either at my sphincter or deep inside my rectum and colon. If I use it as is, only on my nozzle, has anyone experienced anal sphincter or rectal burning, irritation or stinging with J&J, or is it likely to not irritate my sphincter at all? Thanks,

Eric

Dr B's peppermint Castile is a favorite and I've made some very strong enemas with it, but I never used it undiluted.

Hello @blue55,

Have you ever heard of soap sticks AKA soapsticks? During the depression beginning in 1929, people couldn't afford to buy suppositories or enema bags. So if one was constipated mom would cut a piece of soap, usually homemade soap, stuck the cut piece in hot water for a few minutes. She would then insert it into the anus of the constipated child. The feeling was burning. This would usually cause the child to evacuate their feces. I have done that with Ivory soap many times. I believe that putting Dr. Bronner's peppermint soap might burn worse than Ivory soap does; however, as a totally non-professional, I'd be willing to try dipping my finger into some peppermint soap and lubing my butt with it.

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Okay, since we’re at least mentioning soaps as lubricants, here goes. I’m running out of lube, but have a small bottle of J&J Baby Shampoo. Unlike the OP, I really hate burning and stinging, either at my sphincter or deep inside my rectum and colon. If I use it as is, only on my nozzle, has anyone experienced anal sphincter or rectal burning, irritation or stinging with J&J, or is it likely to not irritate my sphincter at all? Thanks, Eric

J&J baby shampoo is very mild but I have heard gives a good cleanout. I think it would be fine to use in moderation.

@Frank01

Hi - yes! I have played with ivory soap pieces (i'm not much good at carving; calling them “sticks” would be too generous lol) and enjoyed it. I think that's kind of my vision here: searching for an equivalent of soapsticks using the peppermint bronner's somehow, bc I think it would be more intense. Small amount, not very deep, but more soap than just lubing a toy.

The soapsticks that I use are not carved. I take a bath sized bar of Ivory bath sized soap bar and put it into a standard microwave for about 15 seconds then cut it lengthwise in half. When I wish to use it I put hot water into the sink and let the piece sit in the warm water. After a few minutes I take the piece and wash my hands with it to remove sharp edges. I then insert the sick where the sun doesn't usually shine. Some times I'll put both pieces in. It does burn a bit. Probably a lot for the newbe.

Oh that makes much more sense - I attempt to cut it dry, straight out of the package with whatever knife I have handy, and it chunks apart into pieces. I end up with smaller pieces that way that have to be soaked/rubbed to get sharp edges gone, and thus end up even smaller. Not ideal. I will try your way; maybe ivory will do the job for me better if i have better sticks? But in general yes, I like it but to me it only burns a little, not as much as I would want.

Welcome to our club, Blue!

You probably know that you can buy Dr. Bronners as bar soap and the peppermint does, indeed, make a most stimulating soap stick! You might also look for Kirk's - commonly sold in health food stores.

I have used undiluted Dr. Bronner's peppermint - mixed with some glycerin - as a straight injection. Effectively, a liquid suppository. Used on two former subs - the results were almost instantaneous, but never resulted in burns or other adverse effects - beyond those intended.

Know your own body and proceed with sensible caution. YMMV.

I've used Dr Bronner's as lube only when I give my sub an enema after his bath. I forget to grab the lube tube and the Dr Bronner's peppermint is always sitting on the tub edge. I don't use any more than necessary because the tingle on sensitive tissues can be a bit much.

@bburl - OOh - I did not know that! I will get ahold of the bar version and try it. And… I'm glad to hear there's at least two people in the universe who have had it injected straight and nothing terrible happened! Maybe I will go ahead and be the third. :-)

Bar version first. Time for a shopping trip!

Welcome to the Zity City, @Blue55.

Update! As it seems the general consensus is I shouldn't just charge ahead and start pumping large volumes of undiluted soap up my butt, I'm exploring this very slowly. But I am exploring it.

Took a little over 20ml undiluted, by syringe. Then enjoyed a few minutes of vigorous, soap-lubed toying. It burned very nicely and was cool to see suds running down the base of the toy. Then put in a plug for a few minutes, but not that long because it was getting pretty burny and I'm trying to be cautious. Two small rinse enemas afterwards, by syringe & tubing. Only mild cramping, which didn't persist after I was done. Anus still pleasantly sore. Overall I'd say B+; it was fun but definitely needed a little more intensity!

In the future I'm going to try plugging a while before toying instead of after; the toying definitely loses some of the soap so I don't know how much remained afterwards. I may try toying & plugging longer. I may also try finishing with an enema via syringe instead of rinsing right away, to force the soap up a ways and get more of a normal soapsuds enema experience to finish out the session. Possibilities!

Thank you guys again for weighing in!

Update! As it seems the general consensus is I shouldn't just charge ahead and start pumping large volumes of undiluted soap up my butt, I'm exploring this very slowly. But I am exploring it.

Thank you guys again for weighing in!

Enemas for science! Go figure….