Did your mother ever explain to you WHY you were getting both an enema and a spanking?

Did your mother ever explain to you WHY you were getting both an enema and a spanking. If I did something wrong in her eyes, it usually meant a spanking, but not always an enema. When she decided on the enema as well, it was often just an afterthought from the spanking. She usually simply said an enema was coming with no reason. I always assumed it was just more punishment. Resistance meant even more pain with lots of soap and holding the bag higher.

No, enemas and spankings were random, and no explaination

Never got spankings.

Nor do I inflict or tolerate them now.

The reason for an enema was always well explained, and I was always given the alternative of at least ONE oral laxative!

I was always given the alternative of at least ONE oral laxative!

Don't remember ever being given a choice between a very soapy enema (which I would normally got) or taking magnesium citrate (which I did not get that often).

I was seldom punished with spankings, more of a swat on the seat and a timeout. Never punished or threatened to be punished with an enema. Also, never given a choice between a laxative (which was castor oil) or an enema. I got very few enemas growing up.

No I was told I was getting an enema the big red bag would already be hanging in the bathroom.

I got the enema because I was sick and constipated. Spanking before was never an issue, but no explanation was ever givenabout the enema, because it was already filled and hanging. There was no choice; over the lap, hose stuck in and water turned on!

I got very few punishments that included an enema series and spanking. I knew full well I had it coming to me each time and remember those days quite well never repeating the offense that triggered what my mom thought to be appropriate response to my misbehavior. Denise

For me I was my foster aunt (and her husband) both very much into Enemas.

Explain: well first off yes. I was 5 and never even heard of the enema. She told me that I was going to get an enema because she wanted to check my bowels. Naked, on my back with my legs held back by my new uncle. My foster aunt held up a rubber thing told me his was the enema (a Higginson) and to be a good boy while she did the enema.

I wasn’t. Cried and struggled even before she started which got me a good hard spanking from uncle… continued to cry all through the enema and her comments didn't help. From then on when (and not always) when she told me they were going to do my bowels, got a knot in my tummy because it also meant a good hard spanking from uncle. Incidentally, her enemas were always hot and soapy and I was made to take all the water!

Hotnsoapy,

Sorry to read about your childhood enemas and spankings. Reads like child abuse to me. Mine was shitty even without enemas so I can commiserate.

I don't recall ever getting both a spanking and an enema for misbehaving. Enemas were not used as punishments in our house. Mom would threaten to "get the belt" if I started complaining about getting an enema, but she never had to follow through. I do recall getting a stinging slap on my fanny for clenching when she wanted to insert the nozzle.

First off, that's child abuse. Pure and simple.

If you choose to incorporate them together as an adult, that's pleasure, preference and fetish.

Second off, neither of my parents EVER used an enema as punishment for either myself or siblings. Solely medicinal. Especially growing up in a medical professional household and working in a professional career, l would know the difference.

First off, that's child abuse. Pure and simple.

If you choose to incorporate them together as an adult, that's pleasure, preference and fetish.

@paula , You may think its child abuse, but back in those days, it definitely was not. It was raising your kids properly. If you look at society today the way it is, you may change to tune. You tell me, if people are raising kids right today. I say bring back enemas, for all.

I agree with @paula that punishing a child with an enema is child abuse. Physical punishment of any sort (spanking, whupping, hitting, pinching, enemas, etc.) is generally not considered effective punishment and can have adverse side effects. An invasive enema borders on sexual abuse. There is a thread “Children's Enema Punishment” that discusses both sides of the issue.

https://en.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=63534

Listed below are a few articles that discuss child development problems that can result from physical punishment - although they don't explicitly list enemas as one of the forms. I didn't find any articles advocating physical punishment, but there probably are some out there. If anyone can point to a medical or child psych study or reference that earlier generations brought up with physical and enema punishments are better than todays generation(s), I would be very interested (and skeptical) of reading it.

https://www.healthline.com/health/parenting/spanking-pros-and-cons#Should-you-use-spanking-as-a-form-of-punishment?-

https://www.gse.harvard.edu/news/uk/21/04/effect-spanking-brain

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3768154/

No….never got a spanking except once…'Twas a cold rainy February Sunday. My Dad was reading the paper (probably pissed cuz he couldn't play golf) I was messing about with toys (age 6) when my mother called me upstairs. As I passed the bathroom I was called in and was surprised to see towels on the floor by the tub and the enema bag hanging on the medicine cabinet door. Fear suddenly grabbed me as I realized what was about to happen. “Why are you giving me an enema” I asked. Mom explained that since I had been sick earlier in the week Dr. Smith had ordered a salt and soda enema to clean me out and to lie down as everything was ready. Well I wasn't and had to go gather my Teddy and pillow to help me though the coming ordeal. Lying on my tummy, cheeks were parted, Vaseline applied, the dreaded black enema tip was gently inserted and after instructions about deep breaths, the ‘thunk’ of the clamp being released, I knew the enema was about to invade my body. Now, as mentioned in previous posts, my Mom was not a good enema giver since she had the bag hanging way up on the medicine cabinet door and the 4 foot drop enema flow was rapid to say the least. After the initial few seconds which kinda felt good, fullness, cramping and pain took over and I started screaming. Holding my Teddy for dear life I hollered and begged her to stop. Upstairs comes my Dad, pissed about my screaming during his already wretched day, and starts whacking me on the butt. Mom whips out the enema tube, chases the old man away and I'm thinking “thank you Lord” when she reinserts the tube and continues the enema to completion. I do recall hugging Teddy and hanging on silently until the bag emptied and I leapt for the john. I have no further recollections about that afternoon and it was the only time I can remember being punished during an enema.

Paula, You may think its child abuse, but back in those days, it definitely was not. It was raising your kids properly. If you look at society today the way it is, you may change to tune. You tell me, if people are raising kids right today. I say bring back enemas, for all.

I agree with you to a point. Yes, kids of today's era are most defiantly raised with a different set of mind set than those of yester year Era. And believe me, my tune is PERFECTLY dialed in with today's society inability to cope, aquire and relate to their inability to be within the spectrum of what citizens should act within society's acceptance!!!!

Myself and my husband both deal with the end result of people abused, both sexually, physically as well as mentally in their earlier years and are now society's issues to have to deal with. Not all, but enough.

Unfortunately, today's society's acceptance is to coddle and therapy/rehabilitate and then reintroduce them back into the mainstream of the public again to only re-offend/destroy/ruin another individuals life because of their off centered upbringing with various forms of abuse.

So, if you keep it to YOURSELF, or with another WILLING ADULT, keeping solely to YOURSELVES, l wish you the best and most wholesome fun and pleasure possible.

BUT!!!! When you do this with minors for YOUR satisfaction for you feel that's how it should be, don't cry later in your 6 by 8 concrete crib wondering how did this happen!!!

I think I posted elsewhere that I perceived that getting an enema was punishment for acts of omission as well as commission.

If I didn't have a daily BM, didn't go to school (sick and/or malingering), or teasing my sister when she got an enema, then I was a likely recipient.

The spanking occurred when I didn't cooperate, resisted, or was acting out in other ways.

To me at that early age, I correlated the enema and spankings. Mom wasn't one to explain herself and we kids left to figure it out and comply.

Quite later, our questions about enemas were answered, and examples of enema usage described, as mom told us of her experiences as well as enema uses with dad and grandparents.

Because I was self administering at a young age, and really enjoying reactions, I always believed I would get severely punished if caught. Thank goodness enemas were always very positive and enjoyable, even into advanced age. I am still pretty discrete however!

I deserved both .. why? I’ve said this before.. but the reason was simple … I ruined a handicapped man’s bedroom floor by scratching “Mama, (who was an RN) would you give me a large, soap, hot enema today?” Well, a couple of weeks went by before our telephone rang. I answered it and to my surprise, I recognized my neighbor’s mother’s voice. She sounded rather mad and asked to speak to my Mother. I called Mom to the phone and went back to my room and closed the door. A minute or so later, Mom opened the door and said “Mike, I am going over to our neighbor’s house. She wants to show me something.” I knew my goose was cooked! Well, Mom was only gone about 5 minutes before she returned, slamming the front door and yelling “Mike, where are you?” About, a half a minute later, Mom entered my bedroom and found me lying on the bed. She screamed at me “how could you! I am so embarrassed!” She jerked me up from the bed and started beating my butt with a belt that was hung on the back of my door! She then screamed “so you want a big, hot, soapy enema today? Well, son, you are going to get it! And you will take every single drop! She, then, pulled me through the bedroom door, through the dinning room and into her bathroom. She swatted me a few more times and, then, she opened the small, white linen cabinet and reached in and pulled out her red, Rexall Victoria Combination syringe. She stood there shaking it at me and then she said “here, hold this thing. I’ve gotta go get somethings.”. Mom exited the room and soon returned carrying a pitcher, some salt, a quart jar, some ivory liquid soap and a large spoon. Immediately, upon entering the room, Mom placed the items on a small table in the bathroom! Then, she turned on the hot water in the sink and turned to me and began speaking “Mike, I am so mad at you!” She, then, began filling the quart jar with hot water. When it was full, she poured the contents into the pitcher! She repeated the process and turned the water off in the sink. Next she poured a couple of teaspoons of salt into the pitcher and then pumped about 10 pumps of ivory liquid into the water. She put the ivory down and picked up the spoon and began stirring the water. She continued doing this until the liquid in the pitcher was full of suds. Then, she requested the bottle. I gave it to her. She poured the hot, soapy, salty liquid into the bag. Then, she requested the tubing. I gave it to her. She closed the tube’s shut-off and screwed the adapter into the bag! Next, she hung the bag on the hook that was on the wall above the toilet for that purpose. Soapy water, began to fill the tubing. I could hear the bloop, bloop, bloop sounds. Mom then walked back to the sink and refilled the pitcher as before. After that pitcher was full, she reached into the white cabinet and retrieved the vaseline and took a seat on the toilet. Reaching for the tube she obtained it and opened the Vaseline. she took her index finger and obtained a glob smearing it onto the black douche nozzle. It glistened with the Vaseline on it! I, meanwhile, had slipped out of my clothes and shorts and had taken a knee chest position in front of Mom with my butt facing her. Mother, then, spoke saying “Mike, I sure hope you like this here hot, soapy, salty enema! It sure is going to cost you to have our neighbor’s floor repaired!” I had not thought about that! Anyway, I felt Mom pulling on my left butt cheek and soon I felt the nozzel slide into my waiting rectum. Mom asked me if I was ready and I replied “yes!” Mother, then, opened the tube’s shut-off and my enema began. I don’t know how I managed to take two bags full of that hot, soapy, salty solution, but I did. Ask me, if what i did was worth it, I didn’t so at the time! But, today, I would have to say “Yea, most certainly!

I agree with. I didn't find any articles advocating physical punishment, but there probably are some out there. If anyone can point to a medical or child psych study or reference that earlier generations brought up with physical and enema punishments are better than todays generation(s), I would be very interested (and skeptical) of reading it.

Just to point out, as I have done on previous forums, these “studies” about spanking are very rarely objective, nor can they be in all reality. And you just openly admitted your own bias against any opposing viewpoints. Putting the letters “MD” or “PhD” after your name would not erase or change your bias any, just as it doesn't erase or change anyone else's. Most of these studies treat a reasonable spanking the same as beating a child with a bat and also the same as tapping a child's clothed bottom one time, with the reasoning “its all hitting”. And its also pretty hard to study children from identical backgrounds and circumstances as a control group. But I will submit to you that going out to public venues now vs. 40 years ago when spanking was more or less universal shows the behavior of children and their attitude towards authority in general has changed pretty drastically. You can also observe the same kind of difference when you travel to small towns where parents are still likely to spank vs shove an iPhone in front of their children. And finally, if you know parents of large families (8-12 children) its virtually impossible to use other methods and expect to maintain order.

As far as enemas are concerned though, I would agree that it's not an appropriate punishment. But at least it is a punishment, and not a placation, which is how most modern parents deal with screaming children (Which I am listening to as I write this at a hotel).

And you just openly admitted your own bias against any opposing viewpoints.

I don't have a bias against opposing viewpoints. I am open to other opinions and ideas that are backed up with more than just an assertion.

Family dynamics have changed drastically over the last 40-50 years. Two parent incomes, more child care, less direct parental involvement, less religious involvement, technology (TV, phones, video games, internet). Kids today are exposed to so much more than we were and with more freedom and probably less parental involvement. There are a lot of factors that contribute and effect a childs upbringing, values and behavior than a specific method of discipline.

We're off-track here. The topic is combining spankings with enemas as punishment.

Never had that issue with my mother or parents! Didn’t get spankings! Most I got was a swat with a fly swatter on my legs or a pop on the arm! I think children respected parents more back then! I’m 62. I was raised that we went to church on Sunday morning, Sunday night and Wednesday night! Don’t ask can we sleep in tomorrow? Don’t waste your breath because unless you were sick we all went to church! We waited and we all ate at the table for dinner! Not like today all over the house or in front of a tv!

My stepmother spanked me but never gave me an enema.

The older ones among us know the parenting methods of our childhood. But also what respect meant.

In the past the teacher was respected; Nowadays teachers are afraid of their students. The anti-authoritarian upbringing produced a new, more confident generation; and these now as parents have to assert themselves.

My teachers were still beating; unthinkable today. At home, too, the hand was relaxed and acted faster than today.

My mother knew very well my dislike of enemas. She knew how to use that. In the case of serious misconduct, I had to endure one or the other heavy soap enema, which I received as a punishment. In the meantime, my buttocks also received a few blows.

I didn't die from it; I also wouldn't accuse my mom of child abuse after the fact. Despite all this, I think I've developed into a normal adult who knows what right and wrong means.

By the way, I would still like to be a bad boy from time to time today...😂😂😂

This topic always gets complicated when enemas are mixed with spankings. We always knew the reason we were getting spanked. It was behavior driven, doing something, not doing something, attitude, etc. We were never just randomly spanked. That said, constipation can be an underlying reason for the bad behavior. So naturally it would make sense that an enema would be given after any spanking earned for the behavior. So in some respects the spanking was for the lack of self control over the behavior and the enema was done to fix the root cause.

I never got an enema and a spanking for the same reason. I got spanked occasionally and I must say when I got one it was deserved. I also got occasional enemas for constipation and/or a tummy ache but I don’t remember ever getting an enema for punishment.

I never got a spanking and an enema. The enemas were forced on me, I wonder if my mother explained why I was getting an enema, it would have made a difference. I'm sure she had no idea as to how the enema thing got embedded in my brain. I didn't get them for punishment, it was because I came home from school sick or our MD told my mother to give me a bag.

@Iassc said,

This topic always gets complicated when enemas are mixed with spankings. We always knew the reason we were getting spanked. It was behavior driven, doing something, not doing something, attitude, etc. We were never just randomly spanked. That said, constipation can be an underlying reason for the bad behavior. So naturally it would make sense that an enema would be given after any spanking earned for the behavior. So in some respects the spanking was for the lack of self control over the behavior and the enema was done to fix the root cause.

Mom, as a rule, didn’t spank my siblings and I then give us enemas. However, it did happen once. She had finished giving us a soapy enema and was fixing to give us a rinse enema. When we realized, she had increased the amount of the rinse enema from one and a half to a full two quarts. When we fussed about it, she wasn’t having any of it and spanked us, then gave us the rinse enema. She didn’t have to tell us why we got a spanking, then an enema. We knew instantly, we were in trouble the moment we said something about having to take a full bag.

It was a different story at grandmas though. Our teenage aunts were charged with giving us our evening baths, along with spankings and enemas when needed. When the girls spanked us, they always discussed why we were going to get a spanking. After the spanking, they always gave us a rinse enema to help us calm down. The spankings we got were for misbehaving, not the enema afterwards. The enema we received afterwards, were to help us calm down and to get at the root cause of the misbehavior, mostly constipation.

When i had a run with constipation, she resorted to giving me one and I never got backed up again! She told me it was what the doctor required.