Colonic hydrotherapy

Yesterday I had a colonic hydrotherapy session followed by a coffee enema. I must say that the therapist was impressed with how much pressure I was able to take. After the 50 minute session, it was followed up by a coffee enema. I was require to take the entire bag and retain it for 20 minutes.

After the entire order, which lasted close to 2 hours I left. When I got into the car, I had an explosion of an orgasm. Did this ever happen to anyone else?

Yesterday I had a colonic hydrotherapy session followed by a coffee enema. I must say that the therapist was impressed with how much pressure I was able to take. After the 50 minute session, it was followed up by a coffee enema. I was require to take the entire bag and retain it for 20 minutes.

After the entire order, which lasted close to 2 hours I left. When I got into the car, I had an explosion of an orgasm. Did this ever happen to anyone else?

Sounds fun…how big was the coffee enema?

Never given coffee or any enema after a long ~1-2 hour colonic, but essentially every time after a satisfying 1-2 hour colonic hydrotherapy session on closed circuit machines was extremely aroused for sure. I always waited until after driving home after a colonic to have my orgasm in private, not in my car. And after the first few colonics I ever had, to add the stimulation of two of my kinks to the colonic treatment, I began to intentionally wear clothing to the colonics intended to not only be extremely comfortable but somewhat arousing as well. This included canvas and rubber sneakers or sometimes mesh running shoes with jeans plus any available rubber clothing I had that would be presentable in public, usually a real rubber, not PVC or plastic, rain jacket. Post-colonic home orgasms never failed.

Eric

Coffee enema was several quarts. Bag not-full as the therapist claims it's a certain type of coffee and mixture.

“Colonic Hydrotherapy” is redundant. A “Colonic” is “Colon hydrotherapy”.

I've read where some therapists offer enema implants after the Colonic.

What's your definition of enema implants? Never heard of it.

What's your definition of enema implants? Never heard of it.

“Implants, small nurturing enemas, also used for rectal feeding. Implants are a great way to nurture the body after an enema. Depending on what you want to achieve they can be refreshing, stimulating, calming, cleansing etc.”

Naturopathetic practitioners claim they provide some healing or therapeutic benefit . Inplants can be herbal, probiotic or lots of other stuff. You can find recipes on the internet (google “Enenma Implants” or “Colon Implants”).

https://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/Enema-Implant-Solutions-Additives-Equipment-s/1033.htm

https://www.enemainfo.com/types/implant_enema.htm

I've talked with my naturopath about colonics and coffee enemas. She's not on that detox bandwagon. Coffee enemas and detoxing seem to be growing in popularity among the 20's to 30's crowd, particularly women, she said. I take a probiotic implant as a retention enema for chronic lower GI inflammation, but I don't need to pay a therapist to do this when I'm able to do a small water enema and then have my husband help me with the implant -- and he's free!

The only implants I’ve heard of that are truly effective are fecal implants to treat CDIFF, and supposedly have a 95% cure rate. There are also other medications delivered via the colon for other medical reasons. I’ve no experience or knowledge of herbal or probiotic implants effectiveness but they seem to be somewhat common and used primarily by naturopaths. I’ve taken probiotics but only from the “top down” where the hit the entire digestive tract.

@gwhap

After a lot of antibiotics years ago, I developed C-Diff.

Apparently, C-Diff gets going when the micocritters normally in you that compete with it get killed off by antibiotics, and, with the competition gone, it blooms and the person really starts to poo.

Let me tell you, it's no fun at all I was pooing soup about every half hour for day after day. In fact, for a while I had a bowel catheter in me, so I could poo through the tube into a bag and give my very, very sore anal passage a rest. For those who are not familiar with device, here is a pic:

https://ibb.co/khSmjcH

The tube and balloon goes into the user, the retention balloon is inflated with warm water, and the person poos at will though the tube into the collection bag. I had that in me for about a week, along with a Foley.

Anyway, lots of anti-Diarrhea meds did nothing. A colon hydrotheapist fiend suggested a pro-biotic enema. Being petty miserable, I agreed.

The treatment stated off with two full adult doses of Castor Oil, given on an empty stomach, an hour apart to clear out as much as possible. When the pooing had petty much stopped, she put in a Coloclean and filled me completely there or four times with warm water. I then went to the toilet to drain out as much as possible remaining water.

Then it was pro-biotic time. The therapist gently inserted a Fr 32 colon tube a very long way, probably at least 3 feet, and over the next half hour injected about a half dozen doses of pro-iotic solution. The solution was OTC probiotic capsules, opened and emptied into warmed bottles water (no Chlorine). Each dose was a couple of ounces… not enough to be laxative. I also got several doses of the same stuff orally.

The pro-biotic enema did helped the C-Diff abate, IMO, although it took about 6 months for the micocitters to each equilibrium.

@Sean yup. Treating unrelated infections often kills off your normal flora. My understanding is they normally treat CDIFF with vancomycin, which kills everything in hopes a natural flora will return. But CDIFF often takes the high ground and you’re right back where you started. So they repeat the antibiotic treatment. My wife went through three doses of vanco before it cleared up. Medical evals often ask if you’ve had it, and are concerned if it’s really gone. Even years after.

BTW. Fecal implants are usually done high up in the colon via a colonoscopy-like procedure.

@sean A funny anecdote about this. After my wife’s last surgery while in the post op ward, a CDiff outbreak occurred. Everyone had to wear the yellow gowns. I mentioned to the doc about the effectiveness of fecal implants. He said they were very effective, just hard to align the donor and the recipient butts for the transfer. Serious conversation. 😄

Retired US MD here, so I’m both personally and professionally interested.

@Sean yup. Treating unrelated infections often kills off your normal flora. My understanding is they normally treat CDIFF with vancomycin, which kills everything in hopes a natural flora will return. But CDIFF often takes the high ground and you’re right back where you started. So they repeat the antibiotic treatment. My wife went through three doses of vanco before it cleared up. Medical evals often ask if you’ve had it, and are concerned if it’s really gone. Even years after.

@gwhap,

So in #11, your wife overcame CDiff successfully after Vancomycin x3. How long was each course of vanco and how far apart? In hospital the entire time on vanco or any home IV treatment? The last time I followed patients on vanco for CDiff, it was still IV only given as an inpatient.

@sean A funny anecdote about this. After my wife’s last surgery while in the post op ward, a CDiff outbreak occurred. Everyone had to wear the yellow gowns. I mentioned to the doc about the effectiveness of fecal implants. He said they were very effective, just hard to align the donor and the recipient butts for the transfer. Serious conversation. 😄

So was this postop CDiff outbreak in #12 the same your wife had in #11 or a different episode? Did she get infected in that postop outbreak or escape it? Thanks,

Eric

@Sean,

Again professional and personal interest here about you. You had the rectal tube and Foley in for a week to give you some greatly needed relief from the extremely sore tissues you can get from persistent diarrhea. I’m very glad you were afforded some pain relief. I've written before that my own normal healthy tissues down there are so bloody easy to irritate that I can barely tolerate 2-3 enemas in a day, usually only 1. So I can’t even imagine experiencing what you did. Bravo, may you never get it again.

My curiosity is this: were you in the hospital for your week of 2 tubes or somehow managed it at home? Your final effective treatment was the probiotic? You had no vancomycin or other antibiotics? Never treated with fecal transplant/implant?

Thanks,

Eric

Retired US MD here, so I’m both personally and professionally interested. @gwhap,

So in #11, your wife overcame CDiff successfully after Vancomycin x3. How long was each course of vanco and how far apart? In hospital the entire time on vanco or any home IV treatment? The last time I followed patients on vanco for CDiff, it was still IV only given as an inpatient. So was this postop CDiff outbreak in #12 the same your wife had in #11 or a different episode? Did she get infected in that postop outbreak or escape it? Thanks,

Eric

@ericmacson my wife was hospitalized for nearly 5 months. 45 days in ICU, 4 weeks in acute care and six weeks in rehab. Plus rehospitalizations following final discharge for ongoing issues. She got CDIFF at the acute care hospital, and still had it at rehab. Not sure what the time diff was between vanco treatments, she had a PICC in for most of the time but not sure when they put in in or pulled it. An IV or the PICC was in almost all of the time. This was 13 years ago so my memory is fuzzy. Never had it at home, but docs always asked. pM me if you want more specifics

Thanks @ericmacson you once asked the difference between the “edit” and “quick edit” function. That’s what can happen when when you use the “edit” function if you’re not careful. Seen it happen before with others. I deleted my duplicate post.

@ericmacson

The postop issue in post 12 was just a precaution. Most patients in the recovery ward got it so they put everyone in the “yellow gown” state. She didn’t get it, thank heavens!

Great!!!!❗️❗️❗️I am SO glad.

Eric

@ericmacson

I had the bowel catheter and Foley in hospital. I did not have a fecal transplant, but was getting close to considering it. Also I didn't ask my doc if it was an option. Antibiotics caused the problem

Someone said, ““Colonic Hydrotherapy” is redundant. A “Colonic” is “Colon hydrotherapy”.” Both are correct.

Colonic is “relating to or affecting the colon.” (Oxford Languages). When used in the phrase, “colonic hydrotherapy” it is an adjective. When used by itself it is a noun. As a noun, it is used only informally, so “colonic hydrotherapy” is more correct when discussing the procedure in a technical aspect.