Question about colon irrigation.

As an enema lover I know about colon irrigation etc. I know there are many irrigation places around, there's at least one close to me, they appear to be all independent clinics etc., but I haven't heard of colon irrigation being done in a hospital or a doctors' office. I would think that using a closed return etc like in an irrigation clinic would be far more pleasant for the patient and the medical staff, Also much more efficient especially with patients who are able to leave their bed.

Am I wrong in thinking this is not done in hospitals? I'd like to hear from anybody with real information, especially members who work or have worked in a medical setting.

Colon cleansing is considered alternate medicine, in a sense (along with basically everything with the word “detoxing" outside of the detoxing from drug use meaning), though I get what you mean by the appeal in the closed system. Part of the problem of course is enemas are very very rarely done in hospitals at all anymore.

Am I wrong in thinking this is not done in hospitals? I'd like to hear from anybody with real information, especially members who work or have worked in a medical setting.

Try cost (operator time, set up - clean up)) and the fact they can do they same thing chemically with little to no nursing or staff support required.

As an enema lover I know about colon irrigation etc. I know there are many irrigation places around, there's at least one close to me, they appear to be all independent clinics etc., but I haven't heard of colon irrigation being done in a hospital or a doctors' office. I would think that using a closed return etc like in an irrigation clinic would be far more pleasant for the patient and the medical staff, Also much more efficient especially with patients who are able to leave their bed.

Am I wrong in thinking this is not done in hospitals? I'd like to hear from anybody with real information, especially members who work or have worked in a medical setting.

Annie,

Would you completely reject the idea of having a professional colonic therapist with a closed colonic machine system give them to you in a private or often chiropractor’s office? I’ve had all mine that way without any problems and enjoyed them all. If they weren’t so expensive and far away, I’d love to still be doing them.

Eric

I have heard stories of colonic irrigations being given in hospitals, but not for some years. Colonics are strictly regulated in many states and you need a doctor's prescription in these states. Most hospitals do not even use water enemas these days but the fleet chemicals so they are not going to advocate a colonic. In Chicago colonics ( gravity Woods method) was at one time wide spread and people gave them in their own homes. Now, that seems to have faded out and colonics are given by machine open and closed system. Not for me. I have done both and I do not like them. I do know of two health food stores on the South side that still uses the Woods gravity method and they use 15 gallons of water. Both stores are in black areas and it seems that black people are more attuned to colonics and enemas then white people.

It's all about the cost and therefore money. It takes a nurse just a few minutes to drop off a Fleet Enema in a patient's room so he/she can give themselves the enema later. That's just a few dollars cost in time and material (the enema). Even giving a patient a warm water or soapsuds enema costs much more because of the time the nurse spends preparing the enema, giving the enema to the patient, the holding time to let the enema work, making sure the patient is okay as they expel and then cleaning up after she or he gives the enema. I have no idea what it costs to give a soapsuds enema in the hospital, but it has to be up in the high tens of dollars at least. No matter if a tap water enema or a soapsuds enema would be better for the patient, costs and therefore money come FIRST, not the patient!!! Insurance companies are the driving force fo saving money in the United States regardless of the effects on the patients

No matter if a tap water enema or a soapsuds enema would be better for the patient, costs and therefore money come FIRST, not the patient!!!

Comfort, convenience, dignity. As much as I like enemas as a concept, especially thinking retro medicine, in a modern medical setting, these three priorities already mean they're probably not going to even consider an enema. The average person doesn't want to spend several minutes with a nurse shoving a tube up their ass, especially not when there's the same results in pill form. The three words also apply to no longer using rectal temperatures, and probably a lot more things that I'm just unaware of.

(There is also the issue of “we have to prove the patient needed this and there was nothing cheaper we could do so the insurance company will cover it”, of course. But that's not hospital greed, that's insurance being dumb and everything being a fight to convince them to pay for stuff.)

I have underwent a colonic irrigation few times , but not in the hospital. As it was said, a hospital staff has not enough time and costs to do that. That's why mainly private clinics or beauty centers are performing this procedure. In presence even enemas are performed very rarely. In case of necessary cleansing you mostly get some chemical cocktail to drink it. Unfortunately a bad luck for enema lovers…

You can't even get a real enema in a hospital these days unless for surgery. After a stint in there, being on pain meds, and unable to shit / mentioning it, all I got was some D-Lax tabs and a Fleet for me to use.

My insurance carrier ( lets call it UHC for grins ) and a CEO making MILLIONS OF $$$ / yr. figures that I can do my stiches laden stomach on my own is bullshit!

Until fuckers like these took over Healthcare, you would never consider looking for other alternatives for good health. Now it's the norm, and THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY EITHER !

They want you just you to be healthy enough to pay your premiums. After that, Fuck You !

Thank you for all your replies. seems the reason colonic irrigation not done much in hospitals is cost, insurance companies, the use of pills and liquids etc. It all does make sense I suppose. I've never been irrigated and probably don't need it, but I would be interested in going through the procedure once just for the experience. I may do so.

I've never been irrigated and probably don't need it, but I would be interested in going through the procedure once just for the experience. I may do so.

@Annie3434 I think you would find it relaxing and enjoyable! Recommend you find a therapist(?) with a closed system if you can - better experience!

A few years ago I had surgery and spent 8 days in the hospital. Not once during that time did I have a BM. I complained to the nurse and she gave me a stool softener. I was home being visited by a home health nurse and complained to her. I was straining and had a minor bloody BM. She handed me a fleet and told me to give myself the fleet and “ hold it”. Luckily , I had a loving girlfriend who gave me a small soapsuds enema and it helped and she repeated it the next day. I almost had prolapse from straining. I agree with the comments that hospital health care is all about money and efficiency and many times little to do with comfort for the patient. I have had nurses speak negatively about enemas saying they are dangerous and you need a doctor's prescription.

Protocols for constipation in the medical setting are pretty much limited to some kind of oral laxative or maybe a self administered Fleet enema. I would imagine in nursing schools that line of thinking is taught and followed once they enter a medical setting.

Keep in mind here on zity we are all enema lovers. We love to give ourselves enemas and if we are lucky enough we share enemas with a partner. We love to talk about enemas here on this site and I confess I like to watch enema videos on porn. Sometimes we forget our world here on zity is not representative of peoples' attitudes regarding enemas outside of our zity universe. Most have never had an enema nor long to have one and many see them as gross. Professional medicine today is constantly moving in the direction to keep costs down and any strategy that does that is the direction they take. I would imagine most patients would not want an enema for constipation and the staff would prefer to hand out a laxative and be done with it.

Sadly in today's world, a nice soothing hospital enema has been relegated to a fantasy only to be talked about here on zity.

Its all about cost , time and money

Danbury hospital, in Danbury, Ct. Has an option for colonoscopy patients to have a colonic prep instead of the nasty oral prep. They do it in house & it's been a very successful program and the GI docs are happy with the results. It's done just prior to the procedure.

vapor

Danbury hospital, in Danbury, Ct. Has an option for colonoscopy patients to have a colonic prep instead of the nasty oral prep. They do it in house & it's been a very successful program and the GI docs are happy with the results. It's done just prior to the procedure.

vapor

OMG… if I was 20 years younger I would move. Lol.

Danbury hospital, in Danbury, Ct. Has an option for colonoscopy patients to have a colonic prep instead of the nasty oral prep. They do it in house & it's been a very successful program and the GI docs are happy with the results. It's done just prior to the procedure.

vapor

Vapor, do happen to know how that prep is done?

Vapor,

I grew up in SW CT from 1959-1970 very near Danbury but never was a patient or visitor there. We lived much closer to Norwalk Hospital. I first discovered and taught myself to take erotic enemas at my parents’ home there from about 1967-1970 before moving for college. Do you know why the medical staff in Danbury decided to start offering the colonic/enema pre-op regimen? Because of a serious family history of colon malignancy and polyp disease, I’ve had many colonoscopies and earlier Ba enemas. In the 1970’s the recommended prep was 1-2 2 quart enemas and then evolved to strictly oral preparation later on. I still mix my enemas with taking the oral prep meds because a) I enjoy it and b) I get a more reliable clean out.

Eric

Hi Annie,

Before I retired, I worked in a health studio in London, as a qualified masseur, and they had a colonic hydrotherapy treatment room. After having a few hydrotherapy sessions myself, I was trained by the therapist and I learned to administer colonic hydrotherapy to patients. The process is quite simple in that a plastic speculum is introduced onto the anus, with the patient lying on her side. It has a narrow inlet on one side for water going in, and a larger outlet at the other end, opposite the end inside the anus. Over the outlet goes a flexible tube which slopes downwards and takes away the water and wastes directly to a drain outlet similar to a washing machine outlet. Once the speculum is inserted and attached to the pipes, the patient turns onto her back with knees bent and treatment starts. The outlet is closed.

The water plus whatever you add to the colonic machine's reservoir (a tiny amount of wine does help relax the patient) is gently allowed to enter the colon by releasing the inlet valve until the patient says she feels full. The inlet is shut off and the patient's tummy is gently massaged for several minutes. Then the outlet valve is opened and the colon empties. It is a tiring process for the patient that lasts about 1.5 hours. Before treatment, the patient should have a rectal exam, which is traditionally done in the knee-chest position, and the anus should be inspected for any signs of hemorrhoids/blood traces and a gloved finger fully inserted to gently massage the sphincter, which helps the muscle to relax so the speculum can be inserted easily. There is obviously more to it than that, but that is a simple resume.

Happy to answer any more questions you have.