Adding Hypnosis into a Med Fetish Scene

Has anyone ever considered/experienced the use of hypnosis in the context of med fetish play?

It's a safe and effective way to both “enhance” the sensations, as well as a way to really “immerse” yourself in the “role” of patient, etc. Happy to discuss this. I have an extensive body of practical experience in the using of hypnosis in this way.

I would love to hear more about this!

In terms of informed consent, though, while a possible play patient might consent to being hypnotized, how valid would their consent be for whatever that may be done to them while they're hypnotized?

With respect to consent, it's really no different than any other type of kink scene - i.e., it's all about good honest communication & discussion of “parameters” and “limits” FIRST - before any exam / trancing is undertaken. Honest dialogue like that tends to lead to the best outcomes in my experience.

In addition, hypnosis is defintely NOT “evil mind control”, as it's so often depicted in movies, TV, etc. I think a better metaphor for the experience is that it's more like taking a consensual “guided tour” - that is, the “guide” (hypnotist) offers ideas / information / direction for the “tourist” (patient) to take in and process.

With respect to consent, it's really no different than any other type of kink scene - i.e., it's all about good honest communication & discussion of “parameters” and “limits” FIRST - before any exam / trancing is undertaken. Honest dialogue like that tends to lead to the best outcomes in my experience.

Is it, though? Consent can only be complete and valid when the submissive is fully aware and in their normal state of mind. And no matter what is discussed and agreed upon beforehand, there always has to be a way out, at all times throughout the scene, in case anything changes on the submissive's end.

When the sub's hypnotized, they're in an altered state of mind. Honestly, I highly doubt consent still holds under hypnosis. Could the sub use their safe word/safe gesture under hypnosis?

This seems to fall into the category of “Consensual -Non Consent” edge play. If one is aware of the risks and consequences and is willing to accept them, then playing while hypnotized is RACK (risk-aware consensual kink). The sub explicitly consents to the activities while under hypnosis by agreeing to it in the first place.

If the OP has no intention of using hypnosis to harm someone or to push them into areas that are out of bounds - then I don't see anything wrong with it. Just know that the sub must trust the dome explicitly to get involved in this type of play and explicitly gives that consent when they sign up for it!! The sub has a choice to sign up for it or not. That is implicit consent for whatever happens.

I do not think the OP is looking at hypnosis as anything other than a method to enhance play. Although, others might be more sinister!

Lots of stuff on the internet about Hypnosis, Edge Play and Consent-Non Consent BDSM

Hypnosis is NOT an “altered state of mind”. A trance state is something all of us experience (to a lighter “depth”) many times daily - it's a function of how our brains work. Examples: daydreaming is a light trance state.. or if you've ever taken a trip somewhere and gotten to your destination… but you can't really recall specific details of the journey - you've been in a light trance state. If any suggestion is made to a tranced person that they truly don't agree with / can't support, things don't typically end well for the would-be evil hypnotist… namely the trancee gets angry / doesn't consent / simply “awakens” from their trance state. As noted previously, hypnosis in real life is not “evil mind control” - it's inherently a consensual journey, even in a previously agreed-to roleplaying scenario. Hypnosis is simply a way to gain access to a store of energy (one's unconsious mind) that typically is not readily “accessible” in one's normal waking state, in a more easily “repeatable” / sustainable way.

So far the discussion has revolved around justifying “consent” to go under hypnosis for a medical exam or some form of form of domination. What's the upside? What enhanced sensations would be realized by being hypnotized during medical play??

Relative to “added sensations" - the possibilities are only constrained by one's own boundaries, since you're, quite literally, tapping into a store of energy that can't be readily “accessed” in one's waking state - the biggest example that comes to mind are much more intense / satisfying orgasms… but really any sensory or cognitive aspect of an exam can be “enhanced” / “augmented” when one is tranced.

I would question the validity of the consent while being hypnotized. What would a court of law say if a person claimed wrongful deeds were done while they were hypnotized. Would a court throw out or agree that consent was given throughout the whole experience?

Mason Verger gave Hannibal Lecter implied consent while under an induced sexual euphoria! And look what Hannibal did to him!!!!!

I'm not a lawyer, but I do know that, at least in the U.S., the statutes / regulation that govern the more “public” uses of hyposis can vary. My only intent in starting this thread was to offer folks something to ponder / another option to (consensually) consider in the broader context of med fet play… not to debate the legality / consent issues ad infinitum.

Sorry about my joke about Hannibal Lecter - just couldn't resist!! There is literature out there that promotes safe use of hypnosis to enhance sex. Per some articles on the internet:

“As far as “consent” and risk of the hypnotist doing something dreadful the patient can ask the hypnotist to program in a safe word. The hypnotist may say something like, “If at any point in this hypnosis there’s any part of your mind that doesn’t like what’s happening, say ‘STOP.’” This will help you feel safer, and therefore be able to relax more deeply into the hypnosis.” I would guess this could be used to “break” the hypnotic trance as well.

"Hypnosis can be used to enhance sexual pleasure beyond belief. The reason hypnosis can enhance sex is not because it is some sort of magic, but because as you are under a trance, your insecurities and limiting beliefs about sex can be put aside to allow you to feel the full potential of the sexual pleasure your body is capable of, such as:

I would guess most Zity members don't have an issue with inhibitions limiting their enjoyement of sex. For me, I don't feel a need to alter my state of consciousness through hypnosis, drugs or anything other than my emotional connection with my monogamous partner. For those seeking to try something to intensify sex (esp. with a casual relationship such as a visit to a trusted medfet doc)- it seems it could be a viable - and safe - option.

I'd be curious to hear from anyone who has experienced being hypnotized during a BDSM/Medfet or any other scene. Was it “beyond belief” - greatly intensified etc.

I’ve considered hypnosis for use in a medical exam but it’s a challenge finding an experienced hypnotist that is in my local area and into Medical fetish. If anyone Out there is local you have a patient waiting.

In addition to a 1/1 in-person situation, hypnosis can be / is used in on an online setting as well… I've done it successfully for years. 😉 In that respect it's a really handy / convenient way to enhance a more “traditional” kink scene.

I've been using hypnosis in many different scenes for many years now.

It's my main fetish and I use it pretty much in every play session if possible. It makes anything fun much better, in my opinion.

The consent issue is only raised by people who have no idea what hypnosis is. My role as a hypnotist is to stay within the boundaries of the subject, because if you stray out of the boundaries the subject will come out of the trance and it does not feel good to either party. This means that there are extensive conversations about limits and boundaries. If that changes mid-trance you will know it pretty quickly when your subject emerges from the trance unexpectedly and complains about something being uncomfortable. They might not always know why they felt uncomfortable but they will not stay happily in a trance if you tread on their boundaries.

I have many hundreds of hours of experience with hypnosis and have gone through several hypnosis certification courses, although I don't do hypnosis professionally.