Is there such thing as a "Sit on it" enema bag?

Laura and I currently use Higginson pumps for our shared enemas. We are not purists on volume etc, we just fill to our comfort level. I've been thinking it would be neat if we had a bag we could fill, attach our favorite nozzle, insert it and sit on the bag to let our weight force the water in.

Does anybody know if such a bag exists and if so, where can I get one? I'm sure it would be very interesting to try.

Google "JBL Enema Bag."

No and yes.

No, there are no new ones available now as far as i know.

Yes, they definitely existed, and were quite popular during the first 70-odd years of the 20th century. My avitar is an original.

They were called JBL... for Joy, Beauty, Life... and sold by Charles Tyrell.

In about the mid 1980s several companies marketed knock-offs, which were all pretty much junk.

As I've written elsewhere, the original JBLs really worked well and will easily get a lot of enema solution into someone, usually without much cramping. They were designed to completely clear a person's colon easily.

The instructions said to take a small initial fill, poo it out, then resit on the bag taking the rest of the solution. The bag held enough for a 1 quart initial fill and 4 to 5 quarts for the full colon enema. If someone prepares an original JBL for you, you'll be squeaky clean very soon.

Sadly I never owned one, not even one of the repros. I did however read much about them from various sources like Sherry Taylor's magazine and George Darbon's Nozzle Talk, Water and Power etc.

If I recall correctly the JBL also came with an adaptor to attach a hose and nozzle if desired. The originals held something at or near 7 quarts. Quite the enema device!

All the better to give her oral while filling 🌹

I have been looking into this. Have some ideas, downside is that it wouldn't be a cheap bag and I'm not sure if there would be a market for them at the price they'd need to be.

@Edevotee

Yes, the original JBL kits came with some accessories;

For sit-on use, there were both adult and infant nozzles that screwed into the domed valve body. The latter was obviously used for a kid sitting on the bag. Somehow, I can't really imaging a kit sitting quietly on a JBL with the enema going in these days. Times sure change.

The kits also came with a hose and stopper, like a combination syringe, and a little brass cap that screwed over fitting on the side of the bag, where the sit-on valve assembly screwed on. The hose had two black, hard rubber nozzles... a standard douche and an adult rectal, with many tiny holes instead of one at the tip, the same style as the two sit-on nozzles.

In addition to the nozzles, the kit came with a container of "JBL Tonic" powder, designed to be added to the enema water. The Tonic was 4 Oz of Borax and 12 Oz of table salt according to an analysis on-line. And then, depending on the vintage of the kit, there was either a mild soap stick, intended to be moistened and inserted rectally for a few seconds or a tube of lube jelly, both to ease the nozzle insertion.

There is some more info here: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Inner_Hygiene

Whether or not any of the good doctor's claims were valid or not, the enema syringe he sold certainly worked, and worked very well. Anyone who sat on a filled JBL bag was certainly going to get a comfortable yet mighty enema and poo a lot.

As someone who has "ridden" several JBLs, the reports are accurate - if you are slightly clean to begin with, there are no cramps or even a noticeable sense of fullness, even after 3 - 4 quarts are injected. Since it's designed to be used as a "sit-upon," some of your weight is on your feet and/or your hands/arms, although more than enough to produce an injection.

In one case, I was suspended over the bag and slowly lowered onto it so that 100% of my weight was on the bag. Even then, there was little sense of a crampy, "big" fill, even though that was what was happening.

OK. Thank you for all your replies, they have been very helpful. In fact I found a good photo of a JBL which I know I can replicate with a closed top bag and a few commercially available PVC pipe fittings. I also saw several attractive looking nozzles, meant for adding to a shower hose and, since shower fittings have pipe threads for screwing, it will all be very compatible. I'm pretty sure I'm going to do it very soon. I'll post results here. 😃

Certainly an interesting thread here. I have an original JBL that holds 6 litres but it is a lot of water to fill and handle so I made a 'mini' JBL using a rubber hot water bottle. The first thought was would a filled hot water bottle hold my weight. I weigh 84 kgs and there wasn't any explosions or leaks so I purchased a stick on valve stalk from my local tyre (tire) shop and went through the process of preparing the surface as if I was doing a tyre repair. These stick on valve stalks are a replaceable thing that motor bikes rip the tit off the tube if the tyre isn't inflated hard enough. I ran a drill through the stalk to get a better flow and 2 litres is enough for me. regards, irrigator333.

Never had a jbl but everyone always said they will do the job the only place I see them anymore is Klystra these old school things were brought back but may soon slip away again..seems all is into new fads..

Here ya go, Annie:

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I had one of the knock off JBL bags. It was enjoyable until it leaked too much.

I have toyed with using a rubber ring cushion as it holds several quarts and already has a valve that can accomodate a tube to a nozzle.

A picture in my equipment album can give an idea. I first saw one being used at a Vegas EFEST years ago.

@sse4fun

The ides of using a ring cushion as an enema bag is not new. There is at least one patent showing such a device, intended to be put on a toilet seat, nozzle inserted, and the person takes and expels the enema while sitting on the bag. think it was designed for home colonic irrigation.

I had a wonderful ~6 quart JBL and loved using it for large volume, noncrampy almost effortless enemas for years until it failed. In a pinch, I suppose you could insert a double balloon catheter and inflate it and then sit on your full enema bag which would push your enema into you though how fast I'm not sure. A DBC lumen is fairly wide compared to my hard plastic JBL nozzle so it might flow in fairly fast. If any here has ever tried such a method, please let the rest of us know how it worked, as I really would love to be able to enjoy a sit down enema again.

Eric

I used to have a JBL bag years ago, got many rides and great fills from it until it tore. It was a 6qt bag and had 2 nozzles for it. Loved the 28 hole spray nozzle for it. Used to set it on toilet and sit on it and rock back and forth and twirl my small but around on it. It was like getting a prostate massage and enema at the same time. 😜 I could easily take 3 qts from it, so got two enemas once filled. Geez I miss that bag. 😢

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Annie3434 Looking forward to hearing your post on your experience with this. Hope you post them.

I still have a JBL knock off that I bought from Klystra many years ago. I don't use it often, but I find that I can take a LOT more water with it.

Reading these posts I think I'm going to bring it out of retirement and use it this afternoon.

I was laying in bed this morning thinking about this discussion and one of the things that my mind was pondering is the reasons why a JBL might be better than a hanging bag enema. Now I have never experienced a JBL but have done bag and my custom shower set up, and learned a few things along the way. I tend to hang the bag 3-6 feet depending on the area I do it in and I have a screw clamp on the hose that allows me to control the flow rate to a slow trickle if I want. I have found that the slower it flows in, the easier it is to take an enema, and I do that by hanging the bag, hold nozzle at the level it is used and turn on and check flow rate. So my thinking is that with the JBL,, you have low pressure as your body weight is distributed over a large area to start with. Add that you are using warm water and that heat does radiate from the bag, so that warm is translated to a nice feeling which relaxes you, a bonus there as that is what you want. I saw where someone mentioned the bell shape of the base of the nozzle/valve area helps to seal the anal opening when the nozzle is inserted, so that is another worry that is removed and adds to the relaxation of taking it. Now the other thing I pondered is the body position/orientation and how that affects one in taking the enema. Does sitting in an upright position being relaxed have better benefits over standing, bent over, on all fours or laying down in various positions, make a difference? Are there any other variables to add?

I have a number of toys. Another one is a 'stackable' plastic chair. Quite innocent looking, but with a hole made in the appropriate place and a hose and nozzle passed through the hole, just wonderful. 😃 regards, irrigator333

@irrigator333: Great minds think alike! - I made a similar enema chair as well. I my case I used a discarded tub-stool that has no sides Cut a hole in the center just big enough to prevent the base of the enema nozzle from going past. I looked and seemed great, but for some reason the enemas while sitting on it were never as good as I expected.

Sit on it??? aaaayyyyyy

@Master_Dorson I was laying in bed this morning thinking about this discussion and one of the things that my mind was pondering is the reasons why a JBL might be better than a hanging bag enema….

Just my two-cents, it's allot about wanting something we don't have and thereby build it up in our mind to something that would be great to experience. The enema from it was actually not as good as enemas from my open-top 2.5qt bag, but what was really exciting was being coaxed/told to sit on it by a partner who wanted to that nozzle sticking up go up my butt - like an erection just waiting for me.

ETA: corrections

I bought TWO JBL KLYSTRA sit-on bags with the on-off thingy between your legs. It was shaped like a large kidney……..and held a quantity similar to LAKE MICHIGAN!!!!! I hate them, and I paid a $hitload of money for them…….both leaked at the control AND at the attachment points. Iwas REALLY pissed.MY suggestion?…………..run from them.

Quartpilot If your post is serious, I'll but them both from you .