Epsom salt, Ivory soap and that white stuff

Sometime back I mixed some Bonner’s soap and Epsom salt in water and got this white stuff (precipitate?) that formed in the solution. I soon learned after that through Zity not to do that because the precipitate sticks to everything and is hard to clean out. So, I avoided that until recently when a few crystals of Epsom left over in a measuring cup got mixed in with some liquified Ivory soap. The precipitate formed again and stayed pretty much on the surface. The resulting enema solution seemed way more potent than either item done separately. It provided quite a clean out! Not sure if it was the solution or an overly sensitive colon I tried it again. This time I had the solution containing the Ivory soap and Epsom salt in separate bags, hoses joined together with a wye just before the nozzle. I introduced the solutions into my colon alternately and then towards the end simultaneously. Wow, the resulting gut wrenching expulsion and clean out was awesome! Just as great as using glycerin. Does anyone know what that white stuff is and how does it precipitating out effect the remainder of the solution? I’ll probably try it again just to see if it still has the same awesome effect but would like to know what I am dealing with.

You're making hard water soap scum:

"Hard water caused e.g. by dissolved magnesium sulfate or calcium sulfate is permanent hardness because the sulfate salts don't decompose on heating, so, the hardness is NOT removed on boiling the hard water."

To remove that scum ... try using Mr Clean magic erasers. Remarkable....

Does anyone know what that white stuff is and how does it precipitating out effect the remainder of the solution?

The scum is insoluble magnesium soap, produced by the reaction of magnesium sulphate and the soap you are using.

I've tried various combinations of soaps and other things - and each time I was disappointed. The combination never worked as well as just using all Ivory soapy, or all Dove soapy, or all Dr. Bonner's.

I dissolve Ivory bar soap.

Most of the liquid hand soaps have alcohol in them.

I dissolve Ivory bar soap.

Most of the liquid hand soaps have alcohol in them.

We always have a Mason jar under the sink with a bar soaking in water and glycerin. I give it a good shake up occasionally to dissolve it and it forms a thick soap/syrup mix. Add about a cup per bag, add water, give it a shake, and away we go!!!

....it forms a thick soap/syrup mix. Add about a cup per bag, add water, give it a shake, and away we go!!!

Thanks, made me laugh 😁 ... Sound like you are into very strong enemas, as I am.. My avatar photo shows my bag all set for my enema.. Looks scary with the soap foam... and oh, I love the cramps it's going to produce!

The precipitate that forms from mixing Epsom salt with Ivory soap is hard to get off of a bathroom tub. If you inject that stuff up into you ... the precipitate that forms will coat your intestine just like it does a bath tub! Seriously, do you want to do that?

In 50 years of enemas, I've never needed to do this and never will. What do you hope to accomplish or think will happen by mixing any commonly used enema soap with Epsom salts? I keep reading from time to time about formation of the soap/Epsom precipitate, so why are people still doing this? Thanks,

Eric

At the end of the day you're reducing the effectiveness because the magnesium salts of fatty acids don't function as either an osmotic laxative (Epsom salts) or as soap.

If you want to mix the two approaches then you can use an osmotic laxative that doesn't have the double replacement reaction with soap. Sodium phosphate can do it, or you could use PEG3550, or throw in some glycerin and get the osmotic effect plus a bit of increased urgency.

You could even use a dose of salt and bicarbonate. With either the phosphates or the salt/bicarbonate you don't want to leave it retained for hours and hours, because your body can potentially absorb enough to cause problems depending on the dosages.

The unusually good result you got may have been psychological, especially if it was truly just a few grains of Epsom salts.

Thanks, made me laugh 😁 ... Sound like you are into very strong enemas, as I am.. My avatar photo shows my bag all set for my enema.. Looks scary with the soap foam... and oh, I love the cramps it's going to produce!

Not really. Cramps are nothing above a normal SSE. Just the longer you hold, the more you know its there.

I have found that soaking a BAR of ivory soap in a clear silicone open top bag full of 120 degree water hanging about 24 inches above me produces sights, and aromas that stimulate two of my senses. A partner massaging the back, lubricating the anus, and whispering in my ear what she's about to do me while the enema cools down to about 105 degrees stimulates more of my senses and intensifies the anticipation of what is about to happen to me next! When she slides the colon tube deep into me, and I hear the "click", and feel the enema beginning to spread warmth to my insides, I am in full submission, fully aroused, and ready to enjoy the experience!

@Paula, yeah, I love enemas that kick ass and make me run clear! Retention times greater than 10 minutes are rare.

Yesiree, I wanted to try a mix of those two substences decades ago. Instead of taking a wonderful enema, I got to spend much of my evening cleaning everything up. I may have even discarded one of the old 2 quart pink travel bags rather than bother with it. A memorable experience and not in a good way.

Lol, I like my E gear. I don't do that anymore!

At the end of the day you're reducing the effectiveness because the magnesium salts of fatty acids don't function as either an osmotic laxative (Epsom salts) or as soap.

Yes, exactly. The best reason not to use this enema mix of Epsom salts (MgSO4) and Castile or other common enema soap - neither component works like you think it will. And on top of that, you have to deal with the messy hard-to-clean precipitate, which you also don't want gumming up your colon.

If you want to mix the two approaches then you can use an osmotic laxative that doesn't have the double replacement reaction with soap. Sodium phosphate can do it, or you could use PEG3550, or throw in some glycerin and get the osmotic effect plus a bit of increased urgency.

You could even use a dose of salt and bicarbonate. With either the phosphates or the salt/bicarbonate you don't want to leave it retained for hours and hours, because your body can potentially absorb enough to cause problems depending on the dosages.

Right again, as he shows you a couple of remedies if you still want a combined osmotic plus soapy enema. With no precipitate. Or, since many members here seem to enjoy multiple consecutive enemas, just take one with Epsom or another osmotic agent and a different enema with soap, and then even a rinse or two if you like.

The wisdom of Moliere - thank you sir for your clear and logical thinking.

Eric