Help with retention.

So, I'm asking the community for some advice.

My friend and I have been working on her exploration into enemas. I have her doing the basics, just to get her comfortable with the concept. We've had 4 or 5 sessions in and she's comfortable at staying at our "basic" level.

Her comfort level is on her left side, with her knees to her chest, using a standard pre-lubed disposal enema tip.

We've in the past only started with 3/4 of a 2qt bag, and have moved up to a full bag of plain warm water. But as of recently, she hasn't been able to take more then, less of a quarter at a time before having to jump up and expell.

Is there anything I can do to help her retain more? Without frequent stops.

Just for warning, she is very reluctant to changes in position and nozzle/tips, that go outside her comfort zone.

Maybe she needs a small enema just to get things started, so she can empty her rectum, then the 2nd or 3rd a full bag? Progress from small to large?

Double balloon catheter both inflated? Inflatable butt plug? Knee chest position or putting her on her back with her hips raised up to help her water flow more easily into her descending colon at first? More if I think of anything.

Eric

Not sure exactly how they did it, but my parents were able to rig up what they called a "retention device" out of a douche bulb from the late 1960s with a hose and nozzle from the 1970s. Apparently they were both "Faultless" brand so the threads were the same.

Don't have a lot of detail but I understand it was used to effectively extend the retention time on the second enema of a series. One thing I HAVE experienced is that, absent any oral laxative, the second enema in a session is usually the hardest to retain

Sexual stimulation has always worked best for me from a partner preferably or masturbation.

If she's comfortable at what you call a "basic" level enema, then why push her? Enjoy what you have. She may be afraid of taking larger volumes. Listen carefully to her needs. This is not about YOU. Enemas between a man and woman must be a mutual act of caring and trust.

Here are some things I do to make enemas easier to take and hold:

1 - Your diet, in the prior few days, has to be fairly mild. No hot or spicy foods, no milk products, low or no sugar. This will relaxed your colon.

2 - How recently you have eaten. Small amount of food in the prior 12-24 hours.

3 - keep water pressure low

4 - water temperature has to be just right

5 - slowly take the enema

These are things that I found will enable you to take a comfortable enema

Rarely do all these line up at the same time. IF you get them all correct large volumes are not out of the question.

Rub her vagina and she will hold it and love it when you hit the clit

Just want to reiterate what Doctorh3e said previously, maybe she needs a preliminary cleanout with just a quart of solution which then allows more fluid to be introduced on subsequent enemas. Take it slow and enjoy the trip by using warm water (maybe with salt) along with a preliminary erotic anal lube to relax her and get her in the right mood. Make her look forward to the next one-don't make her fear it. Also, introduce the flow at a minimal level and let the enema find it's way throughout the intestinal tract at a leisurely pace.

Something else that helps is to massage her lower belly, from the belly button down to the level of the hips to help the water go deeper into her intestines. Light pressure in circular motions, starting on her left side, moving toward the belly button, end ending on the right side. Repeat as necessary. That is why hydro-therapists do the belly massage, to make the water go in deeper into the intestine.

To: NotADoc92 - Our bodies are all different and don't all react the same, so I can only suggest what works for me.

First - an enema for play should not be given with a full rectum. If she has had no natural BM within a few hours, then a small enema of a pint or so will help clear the way.

Second - At the first sign of cramps, stop, and wait a few minutes for them to subside. For me this is often two or three waves, lasting five to six minutes total. Have her try to wait it out. If your enema play is sexual, this is a good time for you to play with her good parts to take her mind off of the cramps.

Now, she should be able to take more. For me, after the initial round of cramps I can usually drain a regular two-quart bag. Go with the flow and do whatever she is comfortable with and is willing to try. The fact she is even trying it means you are farther along than many couples ever get. Good Luck.

First and foremost its an enema, not a race! Choose a good nozzle that will not fall out, keep the bag/ can at 18-24" above hips, check valve in tubing preferred. I prefer to lay on my back in the tub with my feet elevated. Now comes the fun part. Open the clamp PERIODICALLY and let a bit of the solution to flow, then stop, relax, repeat as your body is telling you. This may take some time which leads me back to the first statement. Rubbing yourself is a bonus. You wont have any problem taking in 2 quarts as long as you go SLOW. I also prefer baking soda and salt to the mix so it doesn't screw up my electrolytes. And OBTW, its a good way to hydrate after being out in this heat and relax. Just my 2cents. I know everyone is different in their own unique way. Get comfortable, relax, and let the good times roll! Its the little things in life that mean the most, after a while, it starts to make sense. Enjoy!

I tend to agree with Vicki. If she is comfortable with the basic enema you should just be happy with that. When I say comfortable I mean that she is happy with the quantity, how it was administered, and how long she is holding it. If there is a next step for you I'd suggest getting yourselves and good enema bag to use instead of the disposables. Aside from being more economical there is a certain enjoyment in making the prep. Keep her comfortable and try using just warm water and a little baking soda. It's easy to take and very soothing. After many years it's still my favorite when I just want to pamper myself.

Many years ago, just before puberty, our RN grandmother taught us to enema ourselves. The following is what she taught us.

1) Use two quarts of warm water with salt and baking soda.

2) Hang the bag no more than 24 inches above your bottom.

3) Use the knee chest position or lay on your back with your feet pulled back to your bottom.

4) Take your time, the slower you go, the less likely you’ll cramp.

5) Breathe deep through your mouth, if you feel a cramp starting and stop the flow.

6) Once the bag is empty, hold it for ten minutes before you go to the toilet.

7) There will be times when you’ll find, your colon isn’t in the mood to receive an enema. Wait a few hour.

We followed what she taught us as preteens into adulthood, and it worked 95 per cent of the time. She sure was correct, when she told us, there be times when your colon isn’t in the mood for an enema.

With appreciation to Rick6981

for his grandmother's textbook instructions on giving and retaining an enema:

"Use two quarts of warm water with salt and baking soda; Hang the bag no more than 24 inches above your bottom; Use the knee chest position or lay on your back with your feet pulled back to your bottom; Take your time, the slower you go, the less likely you’ll cramp; Breathe deep through your mouth, if you feel a cramp starting and stop the flow; Once the bag is empty, hold it for ten minutes before you go to the toilet; There will be times when you’ll find, your colon isn’t in the mood to receive an enema. Wait a few hour."

These are almost the exact steps I learned from a visiting nurse who gave me enemas at home while I was recovering from surgery – except she used a soap packet and I was on my left side (too much pain to be in knee-chest). She waited 30 minutes between enemas.

There was a poster on Voy several years ago whose by line was, "It's not a race, it's an enema." The instructions below are good ones, but perhaps the best single caution is simply to take it slowly, and stop when it feels crampy.

You've got to get a good retention nozzle. It makes all the difference in the world. Also, I've found almost everyone can take more and hold it longer flat on their back.

I struggle with this as well. Recently I discovered that I was misinterpreting the sensations and thus ignoring some advice😃

I've found it difficult to distinguish between just cramps and a strong signal that "this baby's coming whether you're ready or not" feeling. As was said a few times above, tell her to let you know when she's feeling cramps or a strong urge to expel the water. Then stop the flow and talk her down -- tell her to focus on the feelings and let them pass, and when they do, so will the urge to jump up and hit the toilet.

The other reason it's dangerous to miss this signal is if you are cramping and jump up, all the core muscles you use to move to standing up will push around on your colon and rectum, and make it almost impossible to keep it all in!

Good luck!

As gflin said: The other reason it's dangerous to miss this signal is if you are cramping and jump up, all the core muscles you use to move to standing up will push around on your colon and rectum, and make it almost impossible to keep it all in!

The previous statement mirrors my experience. When in the middle of a substantial cramp, the worst thing to do is to try to get up and move around. I have done this with bad results. The best thing is to lay still until it subsides. Manual or oral activities can help take your mind off of the pressure. And I will say again, if the purpose of the enema is playtime rather than cleansing, it is not necessary to use two or more quarts. I find that I can retain one quart almost indefinitely after a round of moderate urges within the first few minutes.

I guess it all depends on why you are taking/giving the enema. Sometimes several small enemas are better than a large one especially with a partner when the intimacy of full exposure and anal stimulation is the primary goal.

Ok here is my 2cents , you have a girlfriend that is willing to do enemas with you and if you look at all the dudes here and everywhere that have to work solo because their GF or Wife wants no part of an enema and you can't fault the gals for this , lets face it , enemas as a fun hobby is not on a lot of bucket lists lol so having a girl willing to explore with you is like as rare as hens teeth , so with that i say count your blessing and let her stay at the level she is at and DO NOT push her and chance her freaking out and shutting this door , let her in time push the limits she is willing to push , thats just my 2 cents ,,Anne