Best nozzle for deep (12"+) insertions?

I currently use the SN "BAT" nozzle, and I can get it in all the way (12") I would like to try a longer nozzle, but not a colon tube. I had a "model B" from SN, but I had a terrible leakage problem with it. The "Bat" is better, but not by much. Anyone else have a "deep insertion" favorite that is NOT a colon tube? I'm looking for something to open the second sphincter and go past it, but not a toy, like a slinky. I want a truly deep insertion that opens up the sigmoid sphincter and enters the sigmoid.

Model N bat style nozzle:

https://siliconenozzles.com/Model-N-Flexible-Bat-Style-Silicone-Nozzle-N.htm

This one works like a charm for me with respect to what you’re looking to accomplish.

https://siliconenozzles.com/DMD-16-Multi-Dimensional-Flexible-Silicone-Enema-Nozzle-DMD-EN16.htm

@Doctorh3e

Are you saying that the Model-B leaked when fully inserted or that it was too difficult to fully insert? Or was it fully inserted and leaked?

There have been a number of people who indicate that they just can't get the Model-B fully inserted because of the larger diameter first retention ball. If that is the case, then you might be looking for a smaller diameter nozzle.

OTOH, if you had no problem fully inserting it, it's possible that the 1.875 inch diameter ball just seated in the wrong place to adequate seal the lower Sigmoid/upper rectum when fully inserted. I have had that occur on occasion and letting it slide back so that the egg-shaped ball seals rather than the lower retention ball, tends to take care of the leakage even though you might lose the ability to hold the nozzle in place. Most of the time it does a good job (for me) to seal. If I really want to be sealed, it actually requires a larger diameter.

I a larger diameter is called for, you might consider this:

https://www.siliconenozzles.com/SNCMED-225-Inch-Diameter-Maxi-Mediu-Silicone-Retention-Nozzle-SNCMED225.htm

I use its big-brother and there is absolutely no doubt that everything is sealed off when fully inserted. But it is not for the faint of heart:

https://www.siliconenozzles.com/SNCMAX3-3-Inch-Diameter-Maxi-Silicone-Retention-Nozzle-SNCMAX3.htm

My other larger diameter nozzle that is about the same length but smaller diameter than the SNCMAX3 is the DBLBL-3XL. The whole family DBLBL nozzles are accessible from this page:

https://www.siliconenozzles.com/DBLBL-Double-Ball-Retaining-Ball-Style-Silicone-Nozzle-DBLBL.htm?categoryId=-1

Are you asking for a nozzle that will actually make the turn and end up in the Sigmoid? You are than probably looking for a nozzle between 14 and 18 inches in length.

@Enema_Runner, I actually can't remember the precise situation. It was a bit big for me, but I got it all the way in. It seemed to me (remembering as well as I can, 5+ years ago) that I had my problem when I withdrew the nozzle. I exploded. I may be expecting to much, but OTOH, I'm not a "size junkie," so 1.5" diameter at the largest is ok.

I'm most interested in a truly deep insertion, something that *just" fits the internal sphincter,even stretches it a bit, is perfect.

THANKS for the help.

@Doctorh3e

Thanks for the clarification. It sounds like the Model-B did exactly what it was designed to do, seal the upper end of the rectum entering the Sigmoid. It's the possible "blow out" upon removal that was the problem. I would agree that these nozzles aren't exactly designed to let you extract them with minimal leakage using the muscle power of the sphincters like you might with a smaller diameter nozzle. If you like the Model N, the Model O is a longer version of the same style and only $10 more than the Model N:

https://www.siliconenozzles.com/Model-O-Flexible-Extended-Length-Bat-Style-O.htm

I have this one: https://www.siliconenozzles.com/The-Grub-17-Multi-Dimensional-Flexible-Silicone-Enema-Nozzle-GRUB17.htm

It definitely gets into the Sigmoid and is not too large. Not a retention nozzle and doesn't seal me well at larger volumes but can definitely deliver at 2-3 quarts.

You might also consider this one: https://www.siliconenozzles.com/The-Caterpillar-16-Barrel-Shaft-Flexible-Silicone-Colon-Nozzle-CTPLR16.htm

I don't have this one but it might fit what you are looking for.

Hope this helps

ER

@Doctorh3e

Thanks for the clarification. It sounds like the Model-B did exactly what it was designed to do, seal the upper end of the rectum entering the Sigmoid. It's the possible "blow out" upon removal that was the problem. I would agree that these nozzles aren't exactly designed to let you extract them with minimal leakage using the muscle power of the sphincters like you might with a smaller diameter nozzle...

ER

You’re absolutely right, @Enema_Runner. I find it impossible to remove any of my nozzles or tubes of any substance without significant leakage. Indeed, “explosion” is apt in cases where I’ve taken on north of 3 quarts.

For deep insertion, two words: COLON TUBE.

@SwitchableSusie

I currently use the SN "BAT" nozzle, and I can get it in all the way (12") I would like to try a longer nozzle, but not a colon tube.

This was the basis for my answer.

You’re absolutely right, @Enema_Runner. I find it impossible to remove any of my nozzles or tubes of any substance without significant leakage. Indeed, “explosion” is apt in cases where I’ve taken on north of 3 quarts.

Two words:

Deepwater Horizon

@Doctorh3e said

Anyone else have a "deep insertion" favorite that is NOT a colon tube?

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@Enema_Runner said

This was the basis for my answer.

Sometimes you have to tell people what they don't want to hear.

THAT was the basis for my answer. Two words: COLON TUBE

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@Enema_Runner said

Two words:

Deepwater Horizon

I googled it, but

WTF?????

@SwitchableSusie. I appreciate your answer. You.may be right, but I was hoping to find something longer that gave similar sensations as the "bat" when deeply inserted. That said, what colon tube do you like/ recommend?

I am "open" for recommendations...??

Look at the SN company specs on their tubes. Anything 2, 3, or 4 cm in diameter is worth a try. Unfortunately, finding your preference will cost you a few dollars.

@SwitchableSusie, I have a 2cm. One. I also had a 3cm. one. As it happens, I couldn't fit the larger one deeply enough, and the smaller one slides out...

That's actually why I was asking the way I did. Thanks for the input, though.

@SwitchableSusie

Deepwater Horizon = Blowout